Seagar ,May ,Pollock for Mookie ?

[mvp 78]

Verdugo is good enough to be a one for one with Betts. Not that he’s better than Betts, but 5 years of Verdugo is worth more than one year of Betts, especially for a team looking like 2020 isn’t going to be their year

 

100%

[mvp 78]

I’d be surprised (and also thrilled) if Verdugo was part of this deal. Even more so than if Urias was.

 

If the Dodgers acquire Betts, where does he pla, with them having Betts, Pollock and Bellinger for OF.

 

My thoughts are Verdugo in CF. Bellinger to 1b. Muncy to 2b.

 

I doubt Verdugo is in play here...

 

Betts plays CF.

[mvp 78]

How's this (accepted by BTV)?

 

Betts & Workman

for

Verdugo, Kelly & Gonsolin

 

This was also accepted and rated as exactly even to both teams:

 

Betts & Workman

for

Ruiz, Gonsolin, Stripling, Taylor & Kelly

 

Are you really trying to bring back Joe Kelly?

[mvp 78]

verdugo Benny JBJ is a pretty good outfield . But with Pedey out and a massive black hole at second I need Seagar in this deal 2 years to Evaluate and extend or Casas is waiting in the wings ? Why not move Xander or Seagar to second ? Devers,Xander Seagar,Chavis is a pretty dynamic infield also .May slots in as the closer Barnes and Workman slot back seems like a hell of a team.Price And Mookie in this deal .

 

Pedey's been out for a few years now. I don't believe anyone has thought he'd contribute at all this year.

 

If the worst case scenario is CJ Chatham plays 2b, I'm fine with it.

[notin]

Betts plays CF.

 

Either way. The point is they can get Verdugo in the lineup.

 

And really, with those 4, there is no wrong choice for CF. Any of Betts, Pollock, Bellinger and Verdugo can handle the position...

[mvp 78]

Either way. The point is they can get Verdugo in the lineup.

 

And really, with those 4, there is no wrong choice for CF. Any of Betts, Pollock, Bellinger and Verdugo can handle the position...

 

If it's those 4, Pollock is the 4th OFer.

 

If it wasn't for 2015, nobody would care about him.

[notin]

Pedey's been out for a few years now. I don't believe anyone has thought he'd contribute at all this year.

 

If the worst case scenario is CJ Chatham plays 2b, I'm fine with it.

 

 

The Sox have Lin, Peraza, Chavis, and Hernandez all with MLB experience. Not to mention Rule 5 pick Arauz, Chatham, dark horse Chad de la Guerra, and defense-only Jeremy Rivera.

 

They could certainly try their hand at a veteran (you know, like Peraza), but I think they have some depth here.

 

Also, getting Seager for Betts is a waste...

[mvp 78]

The Sox have Lin, Peraza, Chavis, and Hernandez all with MLB experience. Not to mention Rule 5 pick Arauz, Chatham, dark horse Chad de la Guerra, and defense-only Jeremy Rivera.

 

They could certainly try their hand at a veteran (you know, like Peraza), but I think they have some depth here.

 

Also, getting Seager for Betts is a waste...

 

Yeah, I'm really really not into bringing Seager over on a short term deal since it doesn't look like they are trying to get a pennant this year. Seems like a waste or a PR move.

[mvp 78]

They are treating 2b the way a lot of teams treat RP's. Just through s*** at the wall and see what sticks.

 

As we've seen from FA this year, there are a bunch of light hitting good glove 2b's available for cheap. It's not a position that I'd call a "black hole" or something that couldn't easily be fixed in a minor trade.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Verdugo is good enough to be a one for one with Betts. Not that he’s better than Betts, but 5 years of Verdugo is worth more than one year of Betts, especially for a team looking like 2020 isn’t going to be their year

 

No way. One year living in a penthouse is better than five in a treehouse.

 

Bloom is holding out for a prospect haul or it's no deal. LA needs to give up Verdugo and some arms.

 

And Bloom's price will be met or he'll keep a Hall of Famer to begin the season...

[jacksonianmarch]

The sox lineup can eat a bad spot like 2b. But I have a feeling you'll see Dalbec or Chavis there by end of the season. 2020 will be a year of experimentation for some of the younger talents.

[jacksonianmarch]

No way. One year living in a penthouse is better than five in a treehouse.

 

Bloom is holding out for a prospect haul or it's no deal. LA needs to give up Verdugo and some arms.

 

And Bloom's price will be met or he'll keep a Hall of Famer to begin the season...

 

If I were Bloom, I would go for Verdugo and Stripling and call it a day. Get some pitching depth and get a replacement for Betts. Verdugo is not a treehouse by the way. The guy looks every bit of a perennial 3-4 WAR player. That is really useful when you can control him for 5 more seasons

[moonslav59]

Are you really trying to bring back Joe Kelly?

 

NO! His contract would help entice the Dodgers to give us more or better prospects.

[mvp 78]

The sox lineup can eat a bad spot like 2b. But I have a feeling you'll see Dalbec or Chavis there by end of the season. 2020 will be a year of experimentation for some of the younger talents.

 

I'm here for it. Let's get weird.

[mvp 78]

NO! His contract would help entice the Dodgers to give us more or better prospects.

 

No more bad contracts please. That's how we got in this mess.

[moonslav59]

I’d be surprised (and also thrilled) if Verdugo was part of this deal. Even more so than if Urias was.

 

If the Dodgers acquire Betts, where does he pla, with them having Betts, Pollock and Bellinger for OF.

 

My thoughts are Verdugo in CF. Bellinger to 1b. Muncy to 2b.

 

I doubt Verdugo is in play here...

 

Verdugo would take Betts's place when he comes back to Boston.

 

I think, if the Dodgers get Betts, they trade Pederson or Taylor... or both.

[jacksonianmarch]

I'm here for it. Let's get weird.

 

That’s the thing, you’ve got 3 players with CIF written all over them in Dalbec, Chavis and Casas. Of them, only Dalbec seems to be capable of being a good 3b. Problem is, you’ve got an all world 3b right now. You’ve got to get Chavis in the lineup. If Dalbec starts 2020 well and earns a promotion, then he’s got to be in the lineup. So you gotta try Dalbec or Chavis at 2b. If anything, maybe their D sucks at those positions, but their bats look good enough to either jettison JD and use the DH spot, or move them for another position of need

[moonslav59]

Pedey's been out for a few years now. I don't believe anyone has thought he'd contribute at all this year.

 

If the worst case scenario is CJ Chatham plays 2b, I'm fine with it.

 

Perazais our 2Bman with Chavis at back-up. Lin might even be ahead of Chatham on the depth chart. They might even add Marco to the 40 man before Chatham gets a chance.

[moonslav59]

If it's those 4, Pollock is the 4th OFer.

 

If it wasn't for 2015, nobody would care about him.

 

That's why I think Betts & Price (or Eovaldi) for Pollock and prospects makes the most sense to both sides.

[mvp 78]

Perazais our 2Bman with Chavis at back-up. Lin might even be ahead of Chatham on the depth chart. They might even add Marco to the 40 man before Chatham gets a chance.

 

I don't think we see Marco again. There's a reason Bloom DFA'd him.

[mvp 78]

That’s the thing, you’ve got 3 players with CIF written all over them in Dalbec, Chavis and Casas. Of them, only Dalbec seems to be capable of being a good 3b. Problem is, you’ve got an all world 3b right now. You’ve got to get Chavis in the lineup. If Dalbec starts 2020 well and earns a promotion, then he’s got to be in the lineup. So you gotta try Dalbec or Chavis at 2b. If anything, maybe their D sucks at those positions, but their bats look good enough to either jettison JD and use the DH spot, or move them for another position of need

 

Casas and Dalbec will be playing hot potato with 1b and DH. Maybe they'll even try to work Dalbec into LF? I'm not a believer in Chavis at all. Maybe he can be Jeff Kentish at 2b, but I really doubt it.

[mvp 78]

That's why I think Betts & Price (or Eovaldi) for Pollock and prospects makes the most sense to both sides.

 

It's weird to me because I don't see why the Dodgers would want or need Price. They have great pitching depth already.

[moonslav59]

No way. One year living in a penthouse is better than five in a treehouse.

 

Bloom is holding out for a prospect haul or it's no deal. LA needs to give up Verdugo and some arms.

 

And Bloom's price will be met or he'll keep a Hall of Famer to begin the season...

 

If you were our GM, we'd get nothing for Betts- not even a bird in the bush.

 

Betts is great. I'm leading the charge to bring him back by offering him $420M/12 or 10, but he's got one year of team control, right now. Nobody is giving up the world for one year, and rightly so.

[moonslav59]

I don't think we see Marco again. There's a reason Bloom DFA'd him.

 

Yes, because he knew nobody would claim him and he needs depth.

 

There-s 15-20 players on our 40 man roster that are easily replacable. If Peraza sucks or gets hurt, there's little reason to keep some other clown over Marco.

 

If Bloom really disliked him, why keep him in the system?

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

If I were Bloom, I would go for Verdugo and Stripling and call it a day. Get some pitching depth and get a replacement for Betts. Verdugo is not a treehouse by the way. The guy looks every bit of a perennial 3-4 WAR player. That is really useful when you can control him for 5 more seasons

 

I like Verdugo and would mandate his inclusion in any trade (I want nothing to do with Pollock or Pederson). But Verdugo is still a prospect. If Bloom was going to settle for just a 2-for-1, Betts would've been gone already. Multiple pitching prospects are needed to seal the deal.

[mvp 78]

Yes, because he knew nobody would claim him and he needs depth.

 

There-s 15-20 players on our 40 man roster that are easily replacable. If Peraza sucks or gets hurt, there's little reason to keep some other clown over Marco.

 

If Bloom really disliked him, why keep him in the system?

 

 

Because they still need to field a team in AAA.

 

Maybe they just want to give him another full year of being healthy and see if he can't get at it again?

 

Lin will be on the roster for the long haul because he has no options, unless they believe they can sneak him through waivers right before the season starts when all the rosters are full. Marco is well behind Lin at 2b IMO. I think he's behind Chatham, Chavis and de la Guerra too.

 

If they end up trying to stash Arauz for the whole year, we won't be seeing Marco no matter what.

[moonslav59]

Because they still need to field a team in AAA.

 

Maybe they just want to give him another full year of being healthy and see if he can't get at it again?

 

Lin will be on the roster for the long haul because he has no options, unless they believe they can sneak him through waivers right before the season starts when all the rosters are full. Marco is well behind Lin at 2b IMO. I think he's behind Chatham, Chavis and de la Guerra too.

 

If they end up trying to stash Arauz for the whole year, we won't be seeing Marco no matter what.

 

I'm not betting we "see Marco", but unless Chatham is really impressing people, if we ever get to the point where Peraza, Chavis and Lin can't play 2B, Marco is a serious option over Chatham.

[Bellhorn04]

It's weird to me because I don't see why the Dodgers would want or need Price. They have great pitching depth already.

 

Having Price can only help though.

[harmony]

I like Verdugo and would mandate his inclusion in any trade (I want nothing to do with Pollock or Pederson). But Verdugo is still a prospect. If Bloom was going to settle for just a 2-for-1, Betts would've been gone already. Multiple pitching prospects are needed to seal the deal.

If that's the case Red Sox fans can enjoy Mookie Betts for one final season as the club tries for return to the postseason for the fifth time in 11 years.

[Slasher9]

No more bad contracts please. That's how we got in this mess.

 

why are you trying to save JH money???!!!