Red Sox acquire Nathan Eovaldi

[Maxbialystock]

So sad about E-Rod. He really could have reached 20 wins this year.

 

He did it to himself--late covering 1b.

[Maxbialystock]

I agree with everyone who says he should replace Pom. Certainly not Johnson.

[Bellhorn04]

He did it to himself--late covering 1b.

 

It was a bad toss by Swihart wasn't it?

[a700hitter]

It was a bad toss by Swihart wasn't it?

It had nothing to do with Erod being late to the bag. The throw was behind him.

[Bellhorn04]

We don't hit in that stadium. I don't know why

 

We don't either.

[d-money]

Plus the Rays bullpen has held the Yanks to 1 run through 7 anyway.

 

Alvarado could blow it any minute.

[mvp 78]

Starting a game against the Yankees is essentially the same as starting a game for us (not against the Yankees). Either of those starts is a .5 game in the standings vs Yankees which is all that matters at this point. So I agree with OH FOY, would've made more sense to wait.

 

No, it's not. Not when the Sox rotation is decimated by injury.

[S5Dewey]

We don't either.

 

No short porch in RF, maybe?

[Spudboy]

It was a bad toss by Swihart wasn't it?

 

It had nothing to do with Erod being late to the bag. The throw was behind him.

 

Yes, E-Rod was there in time to field a good throw. Swi threw behind him.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Or you can trade for him now and get him to start for you an additional start. Which makes more sense.

 

Yeah, I would rather have a rested Eovaldi, the Red Sox can now slot him in at the best time/spot. Also, even without Eovaldi pitching, the Rays went to the bullpen approach and beat the Yankees 3-2. The Red Sox can have their cake and eat it too.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

So would've made more sense to wait.

 

If you wait to acquire Eovaldi, maybe you lose him to another team, and then the Red Sox might be left paying a higher price for someone else at the deadline.

 

I wonder if the Yankees were involved in the Eovaldi talks? They need Eovaldi more than Britton. But maybe the Yankees didn't want the Astros to end up with Britton--a kind of pay back for acquiring Cole.

Edited July 25, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[vegasbob]

I don't want Pomeranz there either, Walks, and HRS, are the worst recipe for a Reliever. Back to Pawtucket with Rusney. By the way who's hitting .320 down there.

 

Pomeranz as a pressure reliever is a questionable assignment for him. As a long reliever in some type of blowout game who cares, except why are the Sox getting blown out ?

 

As Castillo's contract slowly matures and if he does hit at .300 plus with some power at AAA, there may be a day when another team takes a shot. Not likely for another full season

[Emp9]

If you wait to acquire Eovaldi, maybe you lose him to another team, and then the Red Sox might be left paying a higher price for someone else at the deadline.

 

I wonder if the Yankees were involved in the Eovaldi talks? They need Eovaldi more than Britton. But maybe the Yankees didn't want the Astros to end up with Britton--a kind of pay back for acquiring Cole.

 

It does seem like the yanks went out of their way to strengthen a strength.

[sk7326]

Yeah, I wouldn't be so confident if he went somewhere else, but Tampa has some kind of magic potion for SPs

 

A ballpark where fly balls go to die

[d-money]

It does seem like the yanks went out of their way to strengthen a strength.

 

They likely will trade for a starting pitcher and we will make a move to counter it.

[illinoisredsox]

A ballpark where fly balls go to die

 

Then I would be a little concerned about the 11 homers Eovaldi has allowed in only 57 innings this year.

 

Seriously folks, he’s here to fill the 4-5 slot in the rotation. A .500 record is fine from that spot. It also tells me they are not counting on Wright bring back any time soon (if at all) and that ERod is a lot more hurt than they are letting on.

[illinoisredsox]

Eovaldi also has that Yankee stench that seemingly so difficult to wash off.

[d-money]

Then I would be a little concerned about the 11 homers Eovaldi has allowed in only 57 innings this year.

 

Seriously folks, he’s here to fill the 4-5 slot in the rotation. A .500 record is fine from that spot. It also tells me they are not counting on Wright bring back any time soon (if at all) and that ERod is a lot more hurt than they are letting on.

 

The guy’s capable of being great when he has his stuff.

[Kimmi]

Ugh, I absolutely hate this trade. First move by DD that I've hated. Not that I hate Eovaldi, he's alright, but 6(?) years of Beeks is waaaaay too much to give up for 2+ months of someone that's not needed all that much. I'm not given up on Beeks after 6 innings. Be prepared to see him do very well in Tampa for many years. Wright or ERod should be healthy by the playoffs, and even if not, I'm not sure Eovaldi is even an improvement over Johnson/Velazquez. The cliff was just a hazy mirage, now it's full speed ahead to the cliff. Exactly the kind of deadline deal that I was hoping didn't happen.

 

Or I could have just repeated this

 

I'm not thrilled about giving up Beeks either, especially after only pitching 6 innings in the majors, but on the whole, I'm good with this trade. It would have been nice if we could have more clarity on the status of our injured pitchers, but with so many question marks in our rotation, Eovaldi is a good get.

 

The good news is that his contract keeps us under the next luxury tax limit and also allows us to add a reliever.

 

At the very least, Eovaldi adds some much needed depth.

[Kimmi]

I like Eovaldi’s Whip & K’s. Can’t look at his W/L record. His ERA is pedestrian.. We give him some run support he should suffice as our 4th SP. I may have like Fiers slightly more, but ahh... Six of one, half-dozen of the other. At least we addressed it.

 

Since returning from the DL, Eovaldi has a 6.6 K/BB ratio, which is 3rd best in the AL behind Kluber and Verlander. Sale is 4th with a 6.3 ratio.

 

Also, his xFIP and SIERA are 3.49 and 3.46, respectively.

 

What I'm trying to say is that his peripheral stats paint a better picture of him than what his ERA indicates.

[Kimmi]

It does seem like the yanks went out of their way to strengthen a strength.

 

Yup. Unless Chapman is injured. This looks more like a postseason move than one for the regular season.

[Kimmi]

Then I would be a little concerned about the 11 homers Eovaldi has allowed in only 57 innings this year.

 

Seriously folks, he’s here to fill the 4-5 slot in the rotation. A .500 record is fine from that spot. It also tells me they are not counting on Wright bring back any time soon (if at all) and that ERod is a lot more hurt than they are letting on.

 

Eovaldi's HR/FB ratio this season is 18.3%, almost twice his career norm. The homeruns may be more of a fluke than anything else?

[Kimmi]

Since returning from the DL, Eovaldi has a 6.6 K/BB ratio, which is 3rd best in the AL behind Kluber and Verlander. Sale is 4th with a 6.3 ratio.

 

Also, his xFIP and SIERA are 3.49 and 3.46, respectively.

 

What I'm trying to say is that his peripheral stats paint a better picture of him than what his ERA indicates.

 

One more stat from BP: Eovaldi's DRA or Deserved Run Average = 2.99

[cp176]

Yes, E-Rod was there in time to field a good throw. Swi threw behind him.

 

I'm thinking that E-Rod is what he appears to be. He gets injured and tends to stay that way. As for whose responsible for the injury, that f***ing imbecile (sorry) has I am sure been taught how to create the correct goddam angle to receive a throw when going to first. His position sucked. He ran through the runner. that is on him. I love his arm for sure - 1or 2 kind of arm. It is his brain I think that might come in to question.

[sk7326]

We don't hit in that stadium. I don't know why

 

Not many teams do

[jd98]

Since returning from the DL, Eovaldi has a 6.6 K/BB ratio, which is 3rd best in the AL behind Kluber and Verlander. Sale is 4th with a 6.3 ratio.

 

Also, his xFIP and SIERA are 3.49 and 3.46, respectively.

 

What I'm trying to say is that his peripheral stats paint a better picture of him than what his ERA indicates.

 

but this is first time in his career that he's looked above average, and it's just 57 innings for TB, and he's been around a while. Hopefully it's the latest TJ surgery that made him better and it's not just the Tampa SP magic juice. Looking at his game logs, he hasn't been consistent at all. 4 dominant games, 1 other quality start (yeah I know that's a lame stat), 4 not good starts but maybe passable (the best being 5IP 3ER) and 1 horrendous start (against the team he faces next). All of his good starts were in very pitcher friendly environments (2@TB, 1@NYM, 1@OAK, 1@MIA), and only one of those was against a decent offense (OAK). As others have said, he reminds me of Joe Kelly, and that's about what I'm expecting. Hopefully I'm wrong and he helps lead us to a close division win over the Yankees.

[moonslav59]

He got shelled July 13th (2.2 IP, 9H, 2BB & 8 ER), but he's done well in his other most recent 4 starts:

 

Recent to oldest

 

IP H BB ER

6.0 6 0 1

7.0 1 0 0

6.0 8 1 2

6.0 1 2 0

 

That's 19 IP with just 3 ERs (1.42 ERA) and a 1.00 WHIP.

 

Maybe we got this guy just in time for his long-awaited, breakout moment.

 

 

 

[Bellhorn04]

I'm thinking that E-Rod is what he appears to be. He gets injured and tends to stay that way. As for whose responsible for the injury, that f***ing imbecile (sorry) has I am sure been taught how to create the correct goddam angle to receive a throw when going to first. His position sucked. He ran through the runner. that is on him. I love his arm for sure - 1or 2 kind of arm. It is his brain I think that might come in to question.

 

Well now we've got some pretty divergent opinions on whose fault the injury was.

 

I just watched the replay a few times.

 

One thing I notice is that Swihart was about 3/4 of the way between first and second by the team he releases the ball, making it a tough play for everyone.

 

The throw was definitely behind E-Rod, causing him to turn and slow down.

 

The third is that the Jays runner slides through the base and to the right and is laid out there with his legs sticking up behind him, forcing E-Rod to make a pretty long jump to clear him. He almost made it but not quite.

Edited July 26, 2018 by Bellhorn04

[cp176]

Well now we've got some pretty divergent opinions on whose fault the injury was.

 

I just watched the replay a few times.

 

One thing I notice is that Swihart was about 3/4 of the way between first and second by the team he releases the ball, making it a tough play for everyone.

 

The throw was definitely behind E-Rod, causing him to turn and slow down.

 

The third is that the Jays runner slides through the base and to the right and is laid out there with his legs sticking up behind him, forcing E-Rod to make a pretty long jump to clear him. He almost made it but not quite.

 

For insurance purposes alone, I go with no fault. it is just so hard for me to try to wrap my brain around how E-Rod is continually getting injured.

[Bellhorn04]

For insurance purposes alone, I go with no fault. it is just so hard for me to try to wrap my brain around how E-Rod is continually getting injured.

 

I think the big wide bulky body is largely responsible. And there's not much he can do about it, it's just his body type.