Red Sox acquire Nathan Eovaldi

[Fan_since_Boggs]

For Jalen Beeks.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/07/red-sox-to-acquire-nathan-eovaldi.html

 

Great deal for the Red Sox. Great deal for the Rays, too. A win-win.

 

Does this put the Red Sox over the highest luxury tax threshold? I don't care if it did--the Red Sox shouldn't worry about that at this point.

 

It is interesting that this deal is made the day after Pomeranz stunk up the joint.

Edited July 25, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Staff as of right now:

 

Sale

Porcello

Price

Eovaldi

Johnson

 

See you in the bullpen Pomeranz

[sk7326]

For Jalen Beeks.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/07/red-sox-to-acquire-nathan-eovaldi.html

 

Great deal for the Red Sox. Great deal for the Rays, too. A win-win.

 

Does this put the Red Sox over the highest luxury tax threshold?

 

Probably - but as Alex Speier noted who cares? The draft penalty for the Red Sox is very small. If Henry wants to pay the 62.5% marginal rate, who am I to stop him. The Red Sox - given their current "reloading" stage on the farm - can't get guys with prospects alone. Their ability to absorb money will have to come into play.

[OH FOY]

I don't want Pomeranz there either, Walks, and HRS, are the worst recipe for a Reliever. Back to Pawtucket with Rusney. By the way who's hitting .320 down there. Edited July 25, 2018 by OH FOY!

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Probably - but as Alex Speier noted who cares? The draft penalty for the Red Sox is very small. If Henry wants to pay the 62.5% marginal rate, who am I to stop him. The Red Sox - given their current "reloading" stage on the farm - can't get guys with prospects alone. Their ability to absorb money will have to come into play.

 

I agree. You don't want to go over it every year, but it makes sense to go over it this year. They need to go all out for a championship and can't let the stupid contracts of Hanley and Sandoval hinder that quest.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I don't want Pomeranz there either, Walks, and HRS, are the worst recipe for a Reliever. Back to Pawtucket with Rusney.

 

Perhaps he can gain an little extra velocity working as a one inning reliever. That is really the only hope that is left before he turns into another Runny Nose Castillo. Sure, I wouldn't use him in high leverage situations at first.

Edited July 25, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Johnson has pitched better than Pomeranz. I'll be so pissed off if they take Johnson out of the starting rotation for Pomeranz.

[Jack Flap]

Initial reaction is that I'm good with that. Eovaldi should help plug the hole at the back of our rotation, and it may be that the Red Sox just weren't impressed with what they've seen from Beeks..

[Fan_since_Boggs]

And Eovaldi is good enough to be your fourth starter in the playoffs. A great trade, as SP depth was becoming a real concern. I wonder what Eric Von thinks about this deal as he was arguing over and over again that the Red Sox don't need to trade for a starter and that there is a 50/50 chance they can rely on Pomeranz. I like Eric's stuff, but I disagreed with him on the starter issue.

[OH FOY]

I think they will move Eovaldi into BP down the road. For Play-offs.

[harmony]

A FanGraphs assessment of Nathan Eovaldi from earlier this month:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/nathan-eovaldi-might-be-the-best-starter-on-the-market/

[Fan_since_Boggs]

A FanGraphs assessment of Nathan Eovaldi from earlier this month:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/nathan-eovaldi-might-be-the-best-starter-on-the-market/

 

Awesome, thanks.

[OH FOY]

In Tampa a 2.12 ERA, on the road 5.18 era. Actually just not enough starts to really know. Like in Fenway 4 starts with a 5.60 era, 17 innings and 24 hits that only sticks out. Edited July 25, 2018 by OH FOY!

[moonslav59]

57 IP is not really enough to judge anyone, but these numbers are encouraging:

 

0.982 WHIP

 

8.4 K/9

 

1.3 BB/9

 

Too bad, he's only a rental.

 

[jacksonianmarch]

Eovaldi is a good get for the Sox. One thing I’ll caution you all on after watching him in a Yankee uniform for two seasons. Don’t get overly excited about his stuff vs his performance. His stuff dictates that he should be an ace. Some games he goes out there and nobody touches him. But for some reason, he’s only that dominant guy in 4-5 starts a year. The other starts he’s a middling guy who falls victim to the homerun ball.

[kenmeister]

Johnson has pitched better than Pomeranz. I'll be so pissed off if they take Johnson out of the starting rotation for Pomeranz.

 

I'm actually expecting them to release Pomeranz when they activate Eovaldi. Someone has to be taken off the major league roster so that they stay at 25 right?

[kenmeister]

Eovaldi is a good get for the Sox. One thing I’ll caution you all on after watching him in a Yankee uniform for two seasons. Don’t get overly excited about his stuff vs his performance. His stuff dictates that he should be an ace. Some games he goes out there and nobody touches him. But for some reason, he’s only that dominant guy in 4-5 starts a year. The other starts he’s a middling guy who falls victim to the homerun ball.

 

In other words, a member of the John Wasdin and Joe Kelly club.

[jacksonianmarch]

I think they will move Eovaldi into BP down the road. For Play-offs.

 

Right now Eovaldi is your 4th starter. If ERod isn’t healthy enough by the PO’s, Eovaldi will make starts in the post season.

[kenmeister]

Right now Eovaldi is your 4th starter. If ERod isn’t healthy enough by the PO’s, Eovaldi will make starts in the post season.

 

So sad about E-Rod. He really could have reached 20 wins this year.

[jacksonianmarch]

In other words, a member of the John Wasdin and Joe Kelly club.

 

He’s more an Ivan Nova type. Will give you innings, will surprisingly not strike out a ton of guys and will cruise until he hits a tough patch and cannot get out of it. He’s prone to the big inning and once it snowballs, he cannot seem to get out of it

[OH FOY]

Jackson, wasn't he scheduled to Pitch against you tonight? If that's the case I would have waited, till tomorrow.

[FredLynn]

I'm actually expecting them to release Pomeranz when they activate Eovaldi. Someone has to be taken off the major league roster so that they stay at 25 right?

 

I am waiting for the Sox to announce that Pomeranz is going on the DL with the injury he suffered in ST that never resolved. Loss of velocity like he has shown makes me suspicious that an injury is the cause....it doesn't usually happen overnight like it has with him.

[Bellhorn04]

I am waiting for the Sox to announce that Pomeranz is going on the DL with the injury he suffered in ST that never resolved. Loss of velocity like he has shown makes me suspicious that an injury is the cause....it doesn't usually happen overnight like it has with him.

 

Or they could move him to the pen, give him a couple of shots there, and if he still looks bad, DL him.

[bkzwhitestrican]

I liked Nasty Nate on the Yanks. The guy is an enigma though. Similar to Michael Pineda - he can be absolutely dominant one outing and then look like he's thrwoing BP the next. Solid guy for the back of a rotation though.

[jacksonianmarch]

Jackson, wasn't he scheduled to Pitch against you tonight? If that's the case I would have waited, till tomorrow.

 

Actually right now. Game just started

[OH FOY]

Was he scheduled today? I thought so. One thing I like, 57 innings only 8 BB's. Edited July 25, 2018 by OH FOY!

[OH FOY]

By the way thanks, watching it now.

[sk7326]

He’s more an Ivan Nova type. Will give you innings, will surprisingly not strike out a ton of guys and will cruise until he hits a tough patch and cannot get out of it. He’s prone to the big inning and once it snowballs, he cannot seem to get out of it

 

He has the Joe Kelly thing - where his fastball is straight and does not get the results you would think from the radar gun.

[jd98]

Ugh, I absolutely hate this trade. First move by DD that I've hated. Not that I hate Eovaldi, he's alright, but 6(?) years of Beeks is waaaaay too much to give up for 2+ months of someone that's not needed all that much. I'm not given up on Beeks after 6 innings. Be prepared to see him do very well in Tampa for many years. Wright or ERod should be healthy by the playoffs, and even if not, I'm not sure Eovaldi is even an improvement over Johnson/Velazquez. The cliff was just a hazy mirage, now it's full speed ahead to the cliff. Exactly the kind of deadline deal that I was hoping didn't happen.

 

Or I could have just repeated this

I usually hate deadline deals. You often trade away a decent prospect who could help the team for 5-6 years for somebody who may increase your WS chances from 18% to 19%.

Edited July 25, 2018 by jd98

[sk7326]

Eovaldi is a good get for the Sox. One thing I’ll caution you all on after watching him in a Yankee uniform for two seasons. Don’t get overly excited about his stuff vs his performance. His stuff dictates that he should be an ace. Some games he goes out there and nobody touches him. But for some reason, he’s only that dominant guy in 4-5 starts a year. The other starts he’s a middling guy who falls victim to the homerun ball.

 

They needed a warm body to get them through the fall - Eovaldi qualifies. He can pitch in the postseason if necessary - although you are going to have a quick hook and use "all star rules" in his outings.