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Hanley is available for league minimum. Any team in contention needing a right handed bat would take a chance on that, regardless of his lackluster performance since he's been with Boston.

 

If no team is willing to touch him based on a false report, then that is just wrong.

 

I doubt this report was any factor at all. I think his lackluster performance represents an upgrade at 1B/DH for so few (if any) teams right now, interest is minimal.

 

I suppose it is possible he is getting offers from teams he does not like, or has no desire to play for, for any number of reasons, including his family. He has 3 kids; maybe he just wants to go home and watch them grow up for once. It's not like he is going to have trouble putting food on the table.

 

There appears to be nothing to these allegations and Hanley has always carried a lot of baggage before and still found work. I think he is unemployed now by either his own choice or a lack of opportunities...

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I doubt this report was any factor at all. I think his lackluster performance represents an upgrade at 1B/DH for so few (if any) teams right now, interest is minimal.

 

I suppose it is possible he is getting offers from teams he does not like, or has no desire to play for, for any number of reasons, including his family. He has 3 kids; maybe he just wants to go home and watch them grow up for once. It's not like he is going to have trouble putting food on the table.

 

There appears to be nothing to these allegations and Hanley has always carried a lot of baggage before and still found work. I think he is unemployed now by either his own choice or a lack of opportunities...

 

I really don't disagree with any of this Notin. I just have a hard time believing that no team is willing to take a chance on Hanley at league minimum. I think it's very possible that Hanley is willing to sit out rather than play for a team like the Os or the Tigers.

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I really don't disagree with any of this Notin. I just have a hard time believing that no team is willing to take a chance on Hanley at league minimum. I think it's very possible that Hanley is willing to sit out rather than play for a team like the Os or the Tigers.

 

I think teams aer willing to, but not with an offer he likes. Adam Lind was willing to accept a minor league deal. Hanley may not be so inclined. He's a 3 time all star, 4 time top ten MVP and former Rookie of the Year. The idea of having to prove himself again by playing games after long bus rides might not be a situation he is looking forward to.

 

I'd be very surprised if he has not gotten any minor league offers. But I can also see why very few teams are willing to give him an MLB-minimum chance and a 25-man roster spot right now, given his performance and the positions he can still handle.

 

As for this report, it's not like he is looking for a multi-year deal and teams are faced with the risk of signing him thinking he might have pending legal issues. For a minimum wage deal, they could simply release him if there was anything to the allegations with no harm done. The reason that hasn't happened yet is probably the lack of deals that interest him.

 

He very well might be retired by choice right now...

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Hanley is available for league minimum. Any team in contention needing a right handed bat would take a chance on that, regardless of his lackluster performance since he's been with Boston.

 

If no team is willing to touch him based on a false report, then that is just wrong.

You are right, but there are much sadder stories than his, and we don’t even know if he wants to play anymore.
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You are right, but there are much sadder stories than his, and we don’t even know if he wants to play anymore.

 

I think we do know that he's probably not good enough to play anymore.

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A lot of people instantly believes the worst about Hanley over this. Perhaps next time they will wait until the full facts are at hand.

 

The court of public opinion has no time for patience, unfortunately.

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"The reporting on Hanley’s involvement in this matter was reckless and irresponsible. It’s unfortunate that one careless, inaccurate story can generate such widespread negative and damaging coverage."

 

Truer words were never spoken.

 

I am glad to hear that Hanley is seemingly cleared of all of this.

 

My heart would have been broken otherwise.

Boston Globe reporter Michele McPhee reportedly claims that Hanley Ramirez was "cleared" only by an unidentified defense attorney:

 

https://weei.radio.com/blogs/alex-reimer/michele-mcphee-kc-defends-her-reporting-hanley-ramirez-boston-globe-backs-exactly

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A lot of people instantly believes the worst about Hanley over this. Perhaps next time they will wait until the full facts are at hand.

 

The court of public opinion has no time for patience, unfortunately.

No one “believed” anything about him. It is the nature of instantaneous news in the Internet age. There is a lot of irresponsible news reporting that is improperly sourced and unverified. The person that dropped the bomb on Hanley didn’t know anything about him.
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I think we do know that he's probably not good enough to play anymore.

 

There are 16 position players with fewer fWAR than Hanley still on MLB rosters (including Eduardo Nunez).

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No one thought anything about him. It is the nature of instantaneous news in the Internet age. There is a lot of irresponsible news reporting that is improperly sourced and unverified. The person that dropped the bomb on Hanley didn’t know anything about him.

 

Boom.

 

When it was just newspapers, stories were verified before print and we all got the newspapers at the same time the next day. Nowadays when circulation is counted with clicks and hits, being fast is more important than being accurate and it is very easy to write a follow up article with corrections later...

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Hopefully that crap has stopped with the departure of Lucchino.

 

One would hope so. But I am not so sure. The Sox owners are very image conscious.

 

Of course the best thing to do is for them to keep their pie holes shut whatever the situation.

 

Suggesting that the Sox released this story for their own gain is conjecture to be sure. But the sacks of s*** have been guilty of besmirching players and staff on their way out of town.

 

You can never be sure with those rich boy pricks.

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Boston Globe reporter Michele McPhee reportedly claims that Hanley Ramirez was "cleared" only by an unidentified defense attorney:

 

https://weei.radio.com/blogs/alex-reimer/michele-mcphee-kc-defends-her-reporting-hanley-ramirez-boston-globe-backs-exactly

 

We here certainly appreciate your ongoing and relentless interest in all things Red Sox.

 

It now appears that while many/most of us are saying that we should wait until all the facts are in before we decide Hanley's guilty Harmony is saying that we should wait until all the facts are in before we decide he's not guilty.

 

What happened to a presumption of innocence?

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There are 16 position players with fewer fWAR than Hanley still on MLB rosters (including Eduardo Nunez).

 

If Hanley continued his horrible May into June, his fWAR would be way worse. His current season total is boosted due to his April.

 

Only two players had a worse May: Lewis Brinson and Chris Davis. You could make a case that both of these guys aren't MLB value right now.

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We here certainly appreciate your ongoing and relentless interest in all things Red Sox.

 

There is an ignore feature on this site. However, it doesn't work very well for harmony because everyone loves quoting him so much.

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No one “believed” anything about him. It is the nature of instantaneous news in the Internet age. There is a lot of irresponsible news reporting that is improperly sourced and unverified. The person that dropped the bomb on Hanley didn’t know anything about him.

 

Absolute nonsense. There were reactions everywhere to it when the news article broke. There were posts in here of 'I knew there was more to it' and you even posted (and repeated) 'I wouldn't come back to the US for a while if I was Hanley'. All off one news report very low in fact, very high in insinuations.

 

However, I do agree that it is the nature of the instantaneous news age. Why people recognise that and still jump in feet first is anyone's guess, however.

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We here certainly appreciate your ongoing and relentless interest in all things Red Sox.

 

It now appears that while many/most of us are saying that we should wait until all the facts are in before we decide Hanley's guilty Harmony is saying that we should wait until all the facts are in before we decide he's not guilty.

 

What happened to a presumption of innocence?

 

It's the age of instantaneous news. So we don't have time for that any more. :rolleyes:

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If Hanley continued his horrible May into June, his fWAR would be way worse. His current season total is boosted due to his April.

 

Only two players had a worse May: Lewis Brinson and Chris Davis. You could make a case that both of thesKoe guys aren't MLB value right now.

 

Except Brinson is an excellent defender and only a rookie with plenty of time and room to grow.

 

Davis is one of the worst contracts in MLB history and only still occupies a roster spot through the sheer stubbornness of the Baltimore front office who has to realize they'd be better off paying him to play elsewhere...

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Hanley is available for league minimum. Any team in contention needing a right handed bat would take a chance on that, regardless of his lackluster performance since he's been with Boston.

 

If no team is willing to touch him based on a false report, then that is just wrong.

 

Hmm. Hanley is guilty of associating with a scum drug dealer. This situation is of his own doing. If he had not been friendly with this drug dealer the reporter would have had nothing to report.

 

The guy has made over 140 mil from what I have read. My heart pumps piss for him.

 

I was hoping he would catch-on with a team this season and would at least partially resurrect his career. I think he can still hit well enough to contribute.

 

But now he is on the outside looking in and is probably done. He is presently playing golf and having a nice life ( from what he posts on FB, anyway ).

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We here certainly appreciate your ongoing and relentless interest in all things Red Sox.

 

It now appears that while many/most of us are saying that we should wait until all the facts are in before we decide Hanley's guilty Harmony is saying that we should wait until all the facts are in before we decide he's not guilty.

 

What happened to a presumption of innocence?

Or course I've written nothing of the sort.:)

 

Most stories have many sides. I simply provided another perspective without an endorsement.

 

We all need to be critical media consumers and not latch on to what we want to believe is the truth.

 

I presume Hanley Ramirez is innocent but expect law enforcement to do its job.

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Absolute nonsense. There were reactions everywhere to it when the news article broke. There were posts in here of 'I knew there was more to it' and you even posted (and repeated) 'I wouldn't come back to the US for a while if I was Hanley'. All off one news report very low in fact, very high in insinuations.

 

However, I do agree that it is the nature of the instantaneous news age. Why people recognise that and still jump in feet first is anyone's guess, however.

i was referring to the person who broke the story on Hanley. That person didn’t know who he was. Of course there was plenty of opinion about it after the story dropped. That was natural. The irresponsible act was the initial reporting of the story. My opinion that I would stay out of the country for a while if I was Hanley was not a slam at him or a prejudgment of him. It is sound advice to wait until the authorities have time to sort out the issue and hopefully clear him. That would be better than coming back during the investigation and possibly being detained and/or interrogated.
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Except Brinson is an excellent defender and only a rookie with plenty of time and room to grow.

 

Davis is one of the worst contracts in MLB history and only still occupies a roster spot through the sheer stubbornness of the Baltimore front office who has to realize they'd be better off paying him to play elsewhere...

 

If Davis didn't have that contract, he'd be at home. We saw the same thing with Hanley. When the cost was truly sunk, they sent Hanley home.

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i was referring to the person who broke the story on Hanley. That person didn’t know who he was. Of course there was plenty of opinion about it after the story dropped. That was natural. The irresponsible act was the initial reporting of the story. My opinion that I would stay out of the country for a while if I was Hanley was not a slam at him or a prejudgment of him. It is sound advice to wait until the authorities have time to sort out the issue and hopefully clear him. That would be better than coming back during the investigation and possibly being detained and/or interrogated.

 

If I had 100M, I'm sure I could retire to DR and be pretty happy. Why would he ever come back even if the charges were cleared?

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If I had 100M, I'm sure I could retire to DR and be pretty happy. Why would he ever come back even if the charges were cleared?
Visit family or friends... skiing?
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If I had 100M, I'm sure I could retire to DR and be pretty happy. Why would he ever come back even if the charges were cleared?

 

Doesn't he own a home in the Miami area? He gets paid by the Sox in the US and Florida has no income tax. Miami has a huge Hispanic population and is the closest big city to the DR. All legit reasons for him to want to return to the US.

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