Hanley DFA’d

[Slasher9]

You've "known me?"

 

Which of course means what exactly?

 

I've read some pretty enflamatory stuff from you. We've clashed a few times, but I would not presume to "know you," nor would I read into anything you've ever said in the heat of argument back in the day in the Wild Wild West, that you are a bad person.

 

No. You don't know me, and I don't know you. I assume you are a decent person, albeit with some different views on life, religion, politics, etc. Also your penchant for the ad hominem.

 

Ironically, you are pissed at me for making assumptions about what I witnessed with Hanley & Pablo, while you continue to make repeated assumptions & pretty much the worst of accusations about me.

 

I'm not going to impugn your reputation by slinging mud, or implying that you are a bad person.

 

It seems that no matter what I say, you want to impute bad motives?

 

So be it. For the record, I'm sorry if my strong opinion on this issue set you off. That was not my intention. Sure, I've been periodically irritated with Hanley's act with the Sox. I know I WENT OFF back in the day when Pablo came back as fat Pablo again, and Hanley didn't seem ready to play 1st. I made some accusations and assumptions. By the end of that blowout year, I had had it with both Pablo and Hanley. I really went off. I definitely made accusations similar to my recent speculation about Hanley.

 

I know I came on strong, and I understand that that pissed you off.

 

Anyway, other than that, you don't know me. You don't have the first clue about the work that I do with these kids, and you most certainly don't know any of the immigrant families that I have as friends. You don't know that I haven't a racist bone in my body, but you presume to impute racist motives in me, and you keep implicitly doing It?

 

It would be great if you'd stop, but I get that you are connected here, and are comfortable doing so.

 

It's pretty sad.

 

Anyway, I'm happy to bury the hatchet any time.

Yes. You’ve told me all about the work. You always have called Hanley and Pablo stoners. I get why. And I never called you the R word like others seemed to jump on board and do.

[Slasher9]

Take your nonsense to a political board. Maybe it is okay to attack the character on political boards. It is unwanted here. This is a sports board where we can debate sports and call each other out for our opinions and we can even occasionally attack the intelligence or knowledge of others, but attacking the character of people here with reprehensible unfounded accusations is over the line. I don't care if Sox75 is your neighbor, you don't know Spud, and you have hurled your poison at him too. Knock off that s*** or you should go somewhere else.

I never attacke sox75 character. I get why he calls Pablo and Hanley stoners for the past 4 years. You brought up racism in this thread. Not me. So whatever dude.

[Slasher9]

While we're on the topic of suspected drug users, if someone asked me to nominate the present or former Red Sox player that I most strongly suspected of smoking a lot of weed, it would be Buchholz.

 

The whole team might smoke pot. Who knows. It’s legal in more and more states now and is pretty popular. I just don’t think anyone is smoking a joint in the locker room between innings.

[Slasher9]

....

[oldtimer]

The whole team might smoke pot. Who knows. It’s legal in more and more states now and is pretty popular. I just don’t think anyone is smoking a joint in the locker room between innings.

 

I was in a small group ministry meeting at a church I belonged to and mentioned that I never smoked pot or used drugs and the retort was, want to try some? Just shows it is really prevalent in society, probably a lotmore so since the Vietnam war experience.

[a700hitter]

I never attacke sox75 character. I get why he calls Pablo and Hanley stoners for the past 4 years. You brought up racism in this thread. Not me. So whatever dude.

You may have avoided the word, but the accusation was still there, and as I have pointed out, it is not the first time. You have hurled similar accusations at other members. I am not looking for a war with you. When you post about sports, which you do 99% of the time, you are interesting and fun. That other stuff needs to be eliminated. I know a few TalkSox people personally and the rest I only know from the boards — some for many years. They all seem to me to be solid citizens who would be good neighbors and community members. There is no reason to ever make an accusation like that against them, and if cause arises to make such an accusation, the public board is not the place to do it. It is one of the worst accusations that you can make against another person. We should just move on.

[harmony]

The Boston Globe reports that Hanley Ramirez is not under federal investigation:

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/06/24/hanley-ramirez-not-under-federal-investigation-friend-dropped-his-name-hoping-avoid-arrest/liGQyW4VpCxdbtmmA25BpK/story.html?event=event25

 

His agent responds:

 

 

Edited June 24, 2018 by harmony

[Bellhorn04]

The Boston Globe reports that Hanley Ramirez is not under federal investigation:

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/06/24/hanley-ramirez-not-under-federal-investigation-friend-dropped-his-name-hoping-avoid-arrest/liGQyW4VpCxdbtmmA25BpK/story.html?event=event25

 

His agent responds:

 

 

 

Well, that's terrible, but it's good news. Hopefully Hanley is free and clear of all this.

[Kimmi]

The Boston Globe reports that Hanley Ramirez is not under federal investigation:

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/06/24/hanley-ramirez-not-under-federal-investigation-friend-dropped-his-name-hoping-avoid-arrest/liGQyW4VpCxdbtmmA25BpK/story.html?event=event25

 

His agent responds:

 

 

 

"The reporting on Hanley’s involvement in this matter was reckless and irresponsible. It’s unfortunate that one careless, inaccurate story can generate such widespread negative and damaging coverage."

 

Truer words were never spoken.

 

I am glad to hear that Hanley is seemingly cleared of all of this.

 

My heart would have been broken otherwise.

[Kimmi]

This is a very curious turn of events, for sure.

 

If the implications against Hanley are true, then that could certainly explain why Hanley has not been signed, in which case I was most definitly wrong about that.

 

According to the timeline, Hanley was DFA'd before the guy in the car was arrested, which means Hanley's alleged involvement in drug trafficking had nothing to do with him being DFA'd.

 

It appears that my streak of not being wrong remains intact.

[Natick to NC]

The Redsox had to have been tipped off on this by a bad report and protected themselves .I don't blame them abit but don't lie about it .Now if Hanley would consider the situation that having a piece of s*** friend put him and his employer in, I'd call Dave up if it was me ,and go back . Edited June 25, 2018 by Natick to NC

[Jasonbay44]

The Redsox had to have been tipped off on this by a bad report and protected themselves .I don't blame them abit but don't lie about it .Now if Hanley would consider the situation that having a piece of s*** friend put him and his employer in, I'd call Dave up if it was me ,and go back .

 

Hanley was designated for assignment before any of this happened.

[a700hitter]

Hanley was designated for assignment before any of this happened.

Unfortunately, no team will touch him after this whether or not it is unfounded. Why would they take the chance. He is pretty much a shot player.

[cp176]

Unfortunately, no team will touch him after this whether or not it is unfounded. Why would they take the chance. He is pretty much a shot player.

 

The implications from this will remain with him forever. Not that I care but the question might be - How good a "friend" was this guy? I'm still going with the idea that there was more to the red sox releasing him than we hopefully will ever know. He is gone, good luck to him.

[Slasher9]

i agree with you all that hanram is now a toxic player that no team will touch.

would it surprise anyone if the Boston FO leaked this story?

they usually find a way to kick a player in the yamsack on his way out the door.

leave no doubt to the masses that dropping/trading/not resigning said player was the "right" move....

probably not the case here but i wouldnt be shocked......

[Bellhorn04]

i agree with you all that hanram is now a toxic player that no team will touch.

would it surprise anyone if the Boston FO leaked this story?

they usually find a way to kick a player in the yamsack on his way out the door.

leave no doubt to the masses that dropping/trading/not resigning said player was the "right" move....

probably not the case here but i wouldnt be shocked......

 

Hopefully that crap has stopped with the departure of Lucchino.

[notin]

i agree with you all that hanram is now a toxic player that no team will touch.

would it surprise anyone if the Boston FO leaked this story?

they usually find a way to kick a player in the yamsack on his way out the door.

leave no doubt to the masses that dropping/trading/not resigning said player was the "right" move....

probably not the case here but i wouldnt be shocked......

 

 

That tactic was usually reserved for popular players where they were worried about the negative PR from trading or releasing them. And they never once even hinted that any player was involved in anything illegal...

[SoxnCycles]

Pete Abes is a bit of a player rumpswab.

[SoxnCycles]

Your best f***in* friend could be cooking meth in his basement and you wouldn’t even know it. How about we wait and hear the facts before we determine he is a (in your mind) typical dark skinned person with dreads. Some of my best friends over the years have worn dreads and have never touched a drug or alcohol.....

 

Now, what fun would that be, Slash?

[Bellhorn04]

Pete Abes is a bit of a player rumpswab.

 

I may have missed something, but what's the Pete Abe connection here?

[notin]

I may have missed something, but what's the Pete Abe connection here?

 

Does t here have to be one? Maybe he just needed to vent about Pete Abraham.

 

I used to feel that way about Gerry Callahan and Tony Masserotti alot...

[SoxnCycles]

I may have missed something, but what's the Pete Abe connection here?

 

Sorry, should have replied with a quote.

 

Kimmi:

"LOL

 

I like PeteAbe."

[SoxnCycles]

Does t here have to be one? Maybe he just needed to vent about Pete Abraham.

 

I used to feel that way about Gerry Callahan and Tony Masserotti alot...

 

Don't get me started on those two.

[a700hitter]

i agree with you all that hanram is now a toxic player that no team will touch.

would it surprise anyone if the Boston FO leaked this story?

they usually find a way to kick a player in the yamsack on his way out the door.

leave no doubt to the masses that dropping/trading/not resigning said player was the "right" move....

probably not the case here but i wouldnt be shocked......

That thought did occur to me. I also thought at the time of the release that it was unusual that the release was so amicable.

[Kimmi]

Unfortunately, no team will touch him after this whether or not it is unfounded. Why would they take the chance. He is pretty much a shot player.

 

If that's the case, that would be a shame. Hanley's character might be destroyed because a reporter wanted to be the first to break a story before he/she had all the facts.

[Kimmi]

Pete Abes is a bit of a player rumpswab.

 

Sorry, should have replied with a quote.

 

Kimmi:

"LOL

 

I like PeteAbe."

 

LOL Maybe that's why I like him so much.

 

Also, I think he's hilarious.

[notin]

If that's the case, that would be a shame. Hanley's character might be destroyed because a reporter wanted to be the first to break a story before he/she had all the facts.

 

Hanley also has not helped himself with his lackluster performance these past 4 years. If he as posting a .900 OPS, he could be committing armed robberies in his spare time and still get signed.

 

Toronto has not yet released Robert Osuna, for example. Aroldis Chapman is another example of how pending legal situations can be superseded by on-field performance...

[Kimmi]

Hanley also has not helped himself with his lackluster performance these past 4 years. If he as posting a .900 OPS, he could be committing armed robberies in his spare time and still get signed.

 

Toronto has not yet released Robert Osuna, for example. Aroldis Chapman is another example of how pending legal situations can be superseded by on-field performance...

 

Hanley is available for league minimum. Any team in contention needing a right handed bat would take a chance on that, regardless of his lackluster performance since he's been with Boston.

 

If no team is willing to touch him based on a false report, then that is just wrong.

[Jack Flap]

I just knew the last few pages of this thread were going to be fun.

 

I'm glad Hanley's good name appears to have been cleared, etc.

[Bellhorn04]

LOL Maybe that's why I like him so much.

 

Also, I think he's hilarious.

 

I think he delivers a lot of good info.