Beni rising!?

[TedWilliams101]

I think Pedroia is done.

 

This would be my lineup:

1) Beni

2) Betts

3) JD

4) Moreland

5) Bogey

6) Devers

7) Holt

8) JBJ

9) Leon/Vazq

 

if/when Moreland cools off, I'd move him to 5 or 6 and have Bogey/Devers 4/5.

 

I think Betts needs to be in the 2 spot. Give him more opportunities with a higher OBP guy in front of him then the trash 6-9 and a chance to get a 2-run shot in the 1st rather than just a solo shot. With Beni, high OBP, has doubles power, good runner to so you don't worry about clogging the bases.

 

JD should hit 3rd. He should get as many ABs as possible behind Betts. Then 4-6 can morph a bit maybe depending on whos hot. So for now it's Moreland-Bogey-Devers.

[jacksonianmarch]

Moreland will cool off. Betts will too. Betts isn’t Bonds. Moreland isn’t JD. Someone will have to pick it up

[sk7326]

Benintendi has been good all season - even when he struggled the at-bats were good. Now the contact is catching up. He's gotta be an All-Star this year.

[sk7326]

Moreland will cool off. Betts will too. Betts isn’t Bonds. Moreland isn’t JD. Someone will have to pick it up

 

The question with Moreland is how the Red Sox platoon with him. This won't last - but between what he does offer and Travis, Swihart, whatever ... there is still the chance for a very high quality 1B product.

[moonslav59]

The question with Moreland is how the Red Sox platoon with him. This won't last - but between what he does offer and Travis, Swihart, whatever ... there is still the chance for a very high quality 1B product.

 

We really don't have a good platoon match for Moreland. They all hit righties better.

[sk7326]

We really don't have a good platoon match for Moreland. They all hit righties better.

 

It is the difference between hitting lefties a little vs "none at all". Most lefty splits are going to be SSS anyway.

[cp176]

We really don't have a good platoon match for Moreland. They all hit righties better.

 

He might be covered in a platoon very nicely by Travis and Swihart. Thankfully Cora tends to believe that if you are decent hitter, you ought to be able to hit both lefties and righties.

I loved the contact Swihart made last night against a very good arm. Two solid rips basically up the middle.

As for Sam Travis, I'm not ready to let his Pawtucket stats of this spring influence me much. He is a lot better than that. Being injured had a lot to do with his poor production.

Bet you had fun the last couple of nights.

[Sox75]

Check out the stats for the last 30 games.... frightening!

 

Beni is the only guy over .300.

 

27 games. .317 avg. 8 HR's, 20 rbi's l.062 ops

 

Who's next?

2. Sandy .273

3. Nunez .272

4. Bogie .264. 6hr's 19 rbi's

5. JDM. .263

6. Mooreland. .261

7. Betts. .260

8. Holt. .259

9. Vaz. .246

10. Devers. .220

11. JBJ of course! .188

12. Swi. .158

 

Beni has become the All-Star I thought he would! Let's hope he keeps it up!!! He's carrying this team!

 

If our guys don't get it back on track, this team is going to be 1 & done in a Wild Card 1 off.

 

Gotta make a more by the deadline. We desperately need a spark!

[Bellhorn04]

Check out the stats for the last 30 games.... frightening!

 

Beni is the only guy over .300.

 

27 games. .317 avg. 8 HR's, 20 rbi's l.062 ops

 

Who's next?

2. Sandy .273

3. Nunez .272

4. Bogie .264. 6hr's 19 rbi's

5. JDM. .263

6. Mooreland. .261

7. Betts. .260

8. Holt. .259

9. Vaz. .246

10. Devers. .220

11. JBJ of course! .188

12. Swi. .158

 

Beni has become the All-Star I thought he would! Let's hope he keeps it up!!! He's carrying this team!

 

If our guys don't get it back on track, this team is going to be 1 & done in a Wild Card 1 off.

 

Gotta make a more by the deadline. We desperately need a spark!

 

The good news is that Mookie looks like he's really back now. That could be the spark right there.

[vegasbob]

Following the idea that if the season ended right now, and the Red Sox were, in fact, a wild card, who would pitch that game ? Assume the rotation the last week allowed you free choice of anyone on the staff.

 

If you say Sale, I feel bad for the fans and team, because they will lose 1-0. Best shot in a one game playoff. Start Brian Johnson for 2 innings followed by Wright, Workman, Velazquez, Barnes, Kelly and Kimbrel.

[Bellhorn04]

Following the idea that if the season ended right now, and the Red Sox were, in fact, a wild card, who would pitch that game ? Assume the rotation the last week allowed you free choice of anyone on the staff.

 

If you say Sale, I feel bad for the fans and team, because they will lose 1-0. Best shot in a one game playoff. Start Brian Johnson for 2 innings followed by Wright, Workman, Velazquez, Barnes, Kelly and Kimbrel.

 

You would start Johnson, seriously? I like him, but he would seem one of the most likely guys to put us in a deep hole to start the game.

[illinoisredsox]

Following the idea that if the season ended right now, and the Red Sox were, in fact, a wild card, who would pitch that game ? Assume the rotation the last week allowed you free choice of anyone on the staff.

 

If you say Sale, I feel bad for the fans and team, because they will lose 1-0. Best shot in a one game playoff. Start Brian Johnson for 2 innings followed by Wright, Workman, Velazquez, Barnes, Kelly and Kimbrel.

 

The strength and true depth of this team is starting pitching so in a one game scenario you are going to go with a failed starter? Joe McCarthy lives.

[Bellhorn04]

Following the idea that if the season ended right now, and the Red Sox were, in fact, a wild card, who would pitch that game ? Assume the rotation the last week allowed you free choice of anyone on the staff.

 

If you say Sale, I feel bad for the fans and team, because they will lose 1-0. Best shot in a one game playoff. Start Brian Johnson for 2 innings followed by Wright, Workman, Velazquez, Barnes, Kelly and Kimbrel.

 

If you're a big believer in run support and good luck, you should go with E-Rod. The team has averaged 6.81 runs in his starts and they are 13-1 in his starts.

[Larry Cook]

Benintendi has a monster game to help us overcome wright’s Weak start.

[Kimmi]

Check out the stats for the last 30 games.... frightening!

 

Beni is the only guy over .300.

 

27 games. .317 avg. 8 HR's, 20 rbi's l.062 ops

 

Who's next?

2. Sandy .273

3. Nunez .272

4. Bogie .264. 6hr's 19 rbi's

5. JDM. .263

6. Mooreland. .261

7. Betts. .260

8. Holt. .259

9. Vaz. .246

10. Devers. .220

11. JBJ of course! .188

12. Swi. .158

 

Beni has become the All-Star I thought he would! Let's hope he keeps it up!!! He's carrying this team!

 

If our guys don't get it back on track, this team is going to be 1 & done in a Wild Card 1 off.

 

Gotta make a more by the deadline. We desperately need a spark!

 

Hitters don't typically stay hot all season long. They typically also don't slump all season long. What you hope for is that when one player cools off, another heats up to help carry the team. As I said elsewhere, I'm really not concerned with our offense.

[Kimmi]

Following the idea that if the season ended right now, and the Red Sox were, in fact, a wild card, who would pitch that game ? Assume the rotation the last week allowed you free choice of anyone on the staff.

 

If you say Sale, I feel bad for the fans and team, because they will lose 1-0. Best shot in a one game playoff. Start Brian Johnson for 2 innings followed by Wright, Workman, Velazquez, Barnes, Kelly and Kimbrel.

 

Interesting question. I think you have to go with Sale. The whole run support thing is a fluke, so you hope the offense will give Sale the support he needs.

 

That said, I would also feel very comfortable starting Price, and mostly comfortable starting either Porcello or ERod. Our rotation is pretty solid.

[cp176]

Following the idea that if the season ended right now, and the Red Sox were, in fact, a wild card, who would pitch that game ? Assume the rotation the last week allowed you free choice of anyone on the staff.

 

If you say Sale, I feel bad for the fans and team, because they will lose 1-0. Best shot in a one game playoff. Start Brian Johnson for 2 innings followed by Wright, Workman, Velazquez, Barnes, Kelly and Kimbrel.

 

I'm guessing that you are saying this tongue in cheek. That metrics I'm pretty sure might lead to a few saber metric purists to believe this I guess. As for me, think I might go (as in all the time) with one of the best pitchers in the game every time. It is a non-thought. Whether the team tends to hit for him or not, I would be entirely ok with that.

[mvp 78]

Interesting question. I think you have to go with Sale. The whole run support thing is a fluke, so you hope the offense will give Sale the support he needs.

 

That said, I would also feel very comfortable starting Price, and mostly comfortable starting either Porcello or ERod. Our rotation is pretty solid.

 

I'm not so sure it is a fluke. I don't think it has anything to do with hitters feeling like they don't need to score 10 runs, it's just a function of Sale being more likely to be opposed by top of the rotation starters than ERod.

[Bellhorn04]

I'm not so sure it is a fluke. I don't think it has anything to do with hitters feeling like they don't need to score 10 runs, it's just a function of Sale being more likely to be opposed by top of the rotation starters than ERod.

 

OTOH in 2017 Sale received 5.33 run support when team's average runs per game was 4.85.

 

Which argues in favor of the randomness thing.

[mvp 78]

OTOH in 2017 Sale received 5.33 run support when team's average runs per game was 4.85.

 

Which argues in favor of the randomness thing.

 

That was just randomness. This year isn't.

[Kimmi]

I'm not so sure it is a fluke. I don't think it has anything to do with hitters feeling like they don't need to score 10 runs, it's just a function of Sale being more likely to be opposed by top of the rotation starters than ERod.

 

That might be part of it, but after the first couple of weeks of baseball, rotations are no longer matched up so that the top starters necessarily face the top starters. Also, it's not always a top starter who is a victim of lack of run support.

[vegasbob]

I'm guessing that you are saying this tongue in cheek. That metrics I'm pretty sure might lead to a few saber metric purists to believe this I guess. As for me, think I might go (as in all the time) with one of the best pitchers in the game every time. It is a non-thought. Whether the team tends to hit for him or not, I would be entirely ok with that.

 

You, sir are correct, as the Red Sox showed the Mariners yesterday when Mr. Sale finally got his shutout , and reasonable run support.

[oldtimer]

Back to Beni. I'd like to see him try to pull a higher percentage of his BBIP. He doesn't have the power necessary to hit balls out to center consistently and too many of his hits there are long fly balls. Same going to left He has a great swing and I would like to see him get rewarded on a higher percentage of his hard hit balls.

[Natick to NC]

Back to Beni. I'd like to see him try to pull a higher percentage of his BBIP. He doesn't have the power necessary to hit balls out to center consistently and too many of his hits there are long fly balls. Same going to left He has a great swing and I would like to see him get rewarded on a higher percentage of his hard hit balls.

 

I agree he should pull balls he can really turn on but I'd like him to start choking up and start to be a more up the gut hitter .I see Benny striking out on that letter high pitch outside heater .The books out he is chasing that pitch .Choke up and know that's not a pitch on the menu take it off the menu .Go belly button to mid thigh pitches with his lower half more and stay balanced .I could easily see him as a 350 hitter if he chokes up and stays on these pitches to drive up the gut .

Edited June 26, 2018 by Natick to NC

[notin]

OTOH in 2017 Sale received 5.33 run support when team's average runs per game was 4.85.

 

Which argues in favor of the randomness thing.

 

Makes we wonder about how it went on as the year progressed. Earlier in the year, he was facing more team aces. but as the year goes on, he plays a lot more games against the next guy in the opposing rotation however that plays out with off-days, injuries, days off and rain outs....

[OH FOY]

He struggles against Lefties early in his Career, needs to pick that up. Had no problems in the Minors against Lefties, so should improve.

[Sox75]

I agree he should pull balls he can really turn on but I'd like him to start choking up and start to be a more up the gut hitter .I see Benny striking out on that letter high pitch outside heater .The books out he is chasing that pitch .Choke up and know that's not a pitch on the menu take it off the menu .Go belly button to mid thigh pitches with his lower half more and stay balanced .I could easily see him as a 350 hitter if he chokes up and stays on these pitches to drive up the gut .

 

Launch angle dude. Be it, live it, love it. Chicks dig the long ball, and Beni got big bat.

 

He also has been hitting about .315 for the last 30, and I believe he's right around .300 with the second highest team bop.

 

So, your choke up soliloquy doesn't make much sense.

 

Against tough lefties??? Sure. If behind in the count, I want ALL GUYS, especially JBJ, to shorten up their swing. Hit for contact. Go the other way....

[oldtimer]

Launch angle dude. Be it, live it, love it. Chicks dig the long ball, and Beni got big bat.

 

He also has been hitting about .315 for the last 30, and I believe he's right around .300 with the second highest team bop.

 

So, your choke up soliloquy doesn't make much sense.

 

Against tough lefties??? Sure. If behind in the count, I want ALL GUYS, especially JBJ, to shorten up their swing. Hit for contact. Go the other way....

 

He has slacked off a bit recently and it still hitting the ball but more to center and less to right.

[oldtimer]

Beni is continuing a slow decline. Maybe having trouble with the high fastball. More strikeouts then normal.

[Bellhorn04]

Beni is continuing a slow decline. Maybe having trouble with the high fastball. More strikeouts then normal.

 

Beni couldn't keep up the incredible streak he was on. All hitters have ups and downs during the long season. But don't judge him based on most recent results.

 

He's hitting 285/369/508 - 877 OPS - with 13 HR and 53 RBI in 80 games. He also has 15 steals in 16 attempts and his defense has been great lately.