Red Sox To Sign J.D. Martinez

[Kimmi]

Actually plenty of players have embraced the advanced metrics to improve their game. Josh Reddick, for example,gave a lengthy interview on the subject. Gabe Kapler did one also where he was shocked at the amont if data he was asked to go over for a minor league manager position. Again, minor league.

 

Really it seems like the only reason players avoid fangraphs stats is to embrace the even more modern Stat Cast, which is more about physics and attempts to teach players to optimize their launch angle and exit velocity. Teams even have bats with sensors in them that help players optimize their swings...

 

Brian Bannister has been doing this on the pitching side of things. Bannister shared some analytics with Rich Hill, got Hill to look at things differently, and resurrected his career.

[Kimmi]

A lot of them wear the same socks during a hitting streak too.

Do you buy into that also, because the players do?

 

There are a lot of smart players out there, but they're not the majority.

 

As irrational as I know it is, I have certain baseball superstitions that I abide by, in order to not jinx the team.

 

Because as you know, it IS all about me. LOL

[Kimmi]

Yup, it's one of the reasons why I watch.

But, I don't think I'd want any of them teaching a physics course.

 

Eck still swears up and down that a fastball rises!

[cp176]

You may not agree with it or like it, but that's one of the things Cora wants to focus on, relaying analytics to players in a way that they will accept what Fangraphs and other stat geeks have to say to them. Again, it's not trying to make them understand the statistics, but getting them to buy into why, for instance, Cora might want to bat JD 2nd instead of 3rd.

 

Why do you think that I would disagree with Cora or any coach passing on any type of information to a player that might help him? i like it very much. I like the fact though that he seems to see the game from all different perspectives.

[SoxnCycles]

As irrational as I know it is, I have certain baseball superstitions that I abide by, in order to not jinx the team.

 

Because as you know, it IS all about me. LOL

 

Yes, it is!

 

 

 

"Eck still swears up and down that a fastball rises!"

 

Eck has always been one of my favorites, so I'll give him a pass on that.

[mvp 78]

Eck still swears up and down that a fastball rises!

 

Sometimes they do (it just means they rise so high that they go over the backstop). https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcdowsa01.shtml

[jacksonianmarch]

A “rising fastball” doesn’t rise, it just doesn’t drop as fast as a normal fastball. It has a lot to do with high spin rates

[sk7326]

Eck still swears up and down that a fastball rises!

 

The 4-seamer with backspin carries, the way that a hit ball with backspin does. Over a short distance, that can look like rise.

[moonslav59]

A “rising fastball” doesn’t rise, it just doesn’t drop as fast as a normal fastball. It has a lot to do with high spin rates

 

I'm sure Eck has been told this, yet he persists.

[Bellhorn04]

The best fastballs are the ones with 'late life', though.

[Jack Flap]

Eck still swears up and down that a fastball rises!

 

But the real question is, how is the hair and the cheese?

[Kimmi]

Why do you think that I would disagree with Cora or any coach passing on any type of information to a player that might help him? i like it very much. I like the fact though that he seems to see the game from all different perspectives.

 

Well, the post that I was replying to kind of gave me that idea.

[Kimmi]

The 4-seamer with backspin carries, the way that a hit ball with backspin does. Over a short distance, that can look like rise.

 

Yes, I agree that it can give the appearance that it's rising.

[Kimmi]

But the real question is, how is the hair and the cheese?

 

Haha. Eck keeps me entertained, for sure.

[cp176]

Well, the post that I was replying to kind of gave me that idea.

 

yup - I can see that after reading what I wrote. Must have been having one of those senior moments I have from tim to time I guess.

[a700hitter]

There will be a season ticket holder conference call with J.D. Martinez today. Is there anything you want me to ask him?

[Spudboy]

There will be a season ticket holder conference call with J.D. Martinez today. Is there anything you want me to ask him?

 

Yes. Please ask him if he likes taters with mustard.

[moonslav59]

There will be a season ticket holder conference call with J.D. Martinez today. Is there anything you want me to ask him?

 

Ask him if he knows a guy named Mr. Fangraphs, and if he believes in line-up protection.

[cp176]

Ask him if he knows a guy named Mr. Fangraphs, and if he believes in line-up protection.

 

And if he doesn't like the information that he receives, he can get a second opinion from Mr. Steamer.

[moonslav59]

And if he doesn't like the information that he receives, he can get a second opinion from Mr. Steamer.

 

I like the way you think!

[devildavid]

Yes. Please ask him if he likes taters with mustard.

 

Or does he prefer biscuits, hmmmmm.

[cp176]

Or does he prefer biscuits, hmmmmm.

 

Taters and Flies

[baseball jones]

There will be a season ticket holder conference call with J.D. Martinez today. Is there anything you want me to ask him?

 

ask him why he thinks he's worth more than David Ortiz?

[moonslav59]

ask him why he thinks he's worth more than David Ortiz?

 

Ouch!

 

Even counting inflation....

[a700hitter]

He said that it is impossible to replace David Ortiz.

 

And especially not with Mitch Moreland. I am saying the last part.

Edited March 3, 2018 by a700hitter

[baseball jones]

He said that there is impossible to replace David Ortiz.

 

And especially not with Mitch Moreland. I am saying the last part.

 

yes,no doubt.

 

i still feel Devers is that guy though.

[baseball jones]

Ouch!

 

Even counting inflation....

 

lol how much inflation in 2 years?

[moonslav59]

lol how much inflation in 2 years?

 

Baseball inflation differs from real inflation.

[Hugh2]

Baseball inflation differs from real inflation.

 

Baseball Inflation (player salary wise) is about 3-4 X that of the broader U.S. economy, and it's been that way for a while.

 

One has to think that's a trend that can't last forever. A guy who you can put in the middle of your lineup and can lead the league in SLG % is worth 25 million a year. And to be fair, Ortiz was probably underpaid many years. Imagine if Ortiz was all about the money, wasn't a late bloomer and hit the market at age 29-30 if he was born 10 years later? I'm not in the mood for making up numbers but I think inherently we can all agree he'd be making much fatter paychecks than he did otherwise.

[Bellhorn04]

Baseball Inflation (player salary wise) is about 3-4 X that of the broader U.S. economy, and it's been that way for a while.

 

One has to think that's a trend that can't last forever. A guy who you can put in the middle of your lineup and can lead the league in SLG % is worth 25 million a year. And to be fair, Ortiz was probably underpaid many years. Imagine if Ortiz was all about the money, wasn't a late bloomer and hit the market at age 29-30 if he was born 10 years later? I'm not in the mood for making up numbers but I think inherently we can all agree he'd be making much fatter paychecks than he did otherwise.

 

Or even imagine if David was insistent on playing first base. He could probably play first about as well as Miggy Cabrera. I assume it was his issues with his feet that prevented him from ever thinking too hard about that.