Chapman signs with Yanks 5/86

[Foe-Jarmer]

Title says it all. Holy s***, I'd hesitate to sign any reliever to a 5 year deal and 17M+ for one is asinine. You could get a solid #2 starter for that kinda money...

[jacksonianmarch]

This is a solid get. He's young and throws smoke. He and Betances will be a devastating combo at the back end.

[Spudboy]

This is a solid get. He's young and throws smoke. He and Betances will be a devastating combo at the back end.

 

Do you see him being effective for 5 years?

 

Dominant or not, that is a big commitment to a reliever.

[jacksonianmarch]

It's a big commitment for sure. But he and Dellin will form a shutdown pen for a few years and potentially take us from being a .500 team to something more. We aren't in the sox league, but this move could be enough to keep us relevant into the late summer.

[a700hitter]

It's a big commitment for sure. But he and Dellin will form a shutdown pen for a few years and potentially take us from being a .500 team to something more. We aren't in the sox league, but this move could be enough to keep us relevant into the late summer.

If all else fails, trade him back to Theo at the trade deadline in year 2 or 3.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Well, you can't beat this contract. Not even Chapman could. He could still take a shot at it, though.

[Jack Flap]

So they basically did what the Red Sox should have with Miller: trade him for a nice haul, then sign him right back in the offseason.

[southpaw777]

The next couple closer signing are going to make Kimbrels 13m look like a f***ing bargain.

Sup MEF:cool:

[Bellhorn04]

Will the Yankees be making a move for a starter?

[jacksonianmarch]

I don't think so. Chapman and Betances should lock down close games late. This should outperform our pythag as we won't have the usual 15-20% loss rate when leading after 6.

 

Our offense should be strong. Sanchez for a full year. Bird replacing Tex. Holliday is a better hitter than McCann. We won't lead the league, but we should easily be top 5 in the AL. Tanaka is an ace. CC needs to hope Father Time grants him one final wish. I hope Pineda puts it together like he did at the end last yr. we have a ton of young arms who need their chance. We have a shot to be a potential WC team. More likely, as is, we'll be competitive into Sept and probably fall short. Chapman at least makes up for some of our other deficiencies

[jacksonianmarch]

The rest of our pen looks pretty good too. Clippard and Warren fill out the bridge. You'll probably see a lefty in there be it the Red Sox transplant or someone like Mantiply that we plucked off waivers. The past couple spots all be filled by guys who throw absolute smoke a la Johnny Barbara, Ben Heller etc.

 

The other candidates for the rotation are guy who did well there last yr. Luis Cessa likely has a spot. If Chad Green is healthy, he should have one too

[moonslav59]

So they basically did what the Red Sox should have with Miller: trade him for a nice haul, then sign him right back in the offseason.

 

That my thought at the time, even before we knew RP'er costs were going to go through the roof.

[Slasher9]

hahaha. another contract that will be an albatross in less than 2 seasons.

and this season the NYY are a .500 team at best. alot of $$$ for a closer for a .500 team.

Ca$$$hman making The Boss proud.

[Hugh2]

The market for receivers is insane!!!

 

What if Kelly and Barnes look really good in the pen with Thornburg and Kimbrel? and then on top of it all Carson Smith comes roaring back?

 

You could probably trade one of those guys at the break to make room for Smith and help restock the system and be just as good. You might be able to save some money that way too.

[Hugh2]

And by receivers I mean relievers.....keep in mind we are in football season. Edited December 8, 2016 by A Red Sox fan named Hugh

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

So they basically did what the Red Sox should have with Miller: trade him for a nice haul, then sign him right back in the offseason.

 

This is exactly how I saw it as well. Great move for them, bad for us.

[mvp 78]

http://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/18034-Yankees-get-Chapman?p=1041495#post1041495

[sk7326]

Crazy deal - reliever volatility has not changed. Miller could also just go up in smoke very easily - the reasons he cannot reasonably start again are still there. Chapman could be very good - but it is very hard for a 1-inning pitcher to deliver that sort of value. Ian Desmond to the Rockies has clinched the "worst deal of the offseason" prize. This is on the podium.

[Dojji]

About time. Everyone else is getting paid, why should relievers be magically immune to salary increases?

[OH FOY]

Agree about Desmond, Rockies had the 11th pick in the Draft, that's unprotected, and signed this guy, for big bucks and will be almost untradeable after 1st year of the deal.

[OH FOY]

Cubs did good and so did the Yanks, Cubs gave up Torres, who is blocked for years, Cubs won the WS, Yanks got Chapman back, and in 2 years he'll be throwing 99 instead of 105, and they will move him again, and get another good haul. Even with that contract.

[a700hitter]

Cubs did good and so did the Yanks, Cubs gave up Torres, who is blocked for years, Cubs won the WS, Yanks got Chapman back, and in 2 years he'll be throwing 99 instead of 105, and they will move him again, and get another good haul. Even with that contract.

Yep. There isn't any downside risk to their roster by acquiring him. None.

[Slasher9]

sorry yankees fans. closing games wasnt the reason you were playing golf and not postseason baseball. .500 team at best. even with once again setting a new high for player contract $$$$. thanks Ca$$$hman. can't wait to bring up this contract every year for the next 5.....

[OH FOY]

The market for receivers is insane!!!

 

What if Kelly and Barnes look really good in the pen with Thornburg and Kimbrel? and then on top of it all Carson Smith comes roaring back?

 

You could probably trade one of those guys at the break to make room for Smith and help restock the system and be just as good. You might be able to save some money that way too.

 

Very good Post. Kelley and Barnes eyes should be popping out, with the Money that is being thrown at Relievers.

[sk7326]

About time. Everyone else is getting paid, why should relievers be magically immune to salary increases?

 

Year to year volatility, the relative low cost to find approximate production. That they are all starters who failed. And either way, it is the bet on a reliever to hold 5 years of performance is forever dicey

[Bellhorn04]

About time. Everyone else is getting paid, why should relievers be magically immune to salary increases?

 

They should get paid. Just consider this for a moment though.

 

This year David Price got paid about 135,000 per inning (31 million 230 innings).

If Chapman pitches 70 innings this tear he'll be making about 246,000 per inning (17.2 million).

[sk7326]

They should get paid. Just consider this for a moment though.

 

This year David Price got paid about 135,000 per inning (31 million 230 innings).

If Chapman pitches 70 innings this tear he'll be making about 246,000 per inning (17.2 million).

 

they should get paid - they should not be guaranteed 5 years. Giants won 3 world series in 6 years with 3 different closers. There is so much darn luck that throwing bodies at it is just a better bet.

[Kimmi]

Year to year volatility, the relative low cost to find approximate production. That they are all starters who failed. And either way, it is the bet on a reliever to hold 5 years of performance is forever dicey

 

they should get paid - they should not be guaranteed 5 years. Giants won 3 world series in 6 years with 3 different closers. There is so much darn luck that throwing bodies at it is just a better bet.

 

Spot on posts.

[vjcsmoke]

good player. but dumping 86m dollars for a reliever. wow. that certainly won't help much with the yankees long term luxury tax issues.

[Bellhorn04]

Have to give the Yankees credit though, they've been reloading their farm system and staying away from big signings, other than this one.