Pablo Sandoval

[Dojji]

By definition if you will defend all players until blue in the face you will defend them by looking for more and more tenuous reasons to do so.

 

As equally loaded as your earlier question - would it be better to have Shaw playing 3rd base at the level he was last year and has been in ST, or, the Pablo at the level he was last year and has been in ST?

 

And fat jokes or not, the guy is fat and out of shape. The fact he needs to lose weight to get his range back is absurd. A professional athlete supposedly. To walk into camp overweight after that performance level last season was an absolute disgrace.

 

He deserves to be on the bench. A hungrier kid want it more.

 

Somehow I don't think Pablo's problem is hunger. Any and all puns aside, I actually think he really does want to get out there and perform. It's just that there's some prepwork he needs to do to be the best he can be, that he's gotten away with not doing that prepwork in the past based on his talent and natural athleticism, and he can't get away with blowing off the preliminaries anymore and he hasn't fully realized that.

 

I don't intend to question Pablo's hunger to play or his quest for championship. I question his ability to prepare himself to be the best player he can be over the long term. Professional pride can be questioned. As can willingness to actually do what it takes to make the most of his talent. but in the short term yeah I bet he really does want to be the one out there leading the charge. He just needs to get it into his head that there's some things he needs to do to take care of himself so that can happen.

Edited April 3, 2016 by Dojji

[a700hitter]

In case you haven't noticed, I will defend almost any Sox player until I'm blue in the face, veteran or rookie.

I think this makes you a homer. There is nothing wrong with that. It means you are a passionate fan. Know thyself.

[Hitch]

Somehow I don't think Pablo's problem is hunger. I actually think he really does want to get out there and perform. It's just that there's some prepwork he needs to do to be the best he can be, that he's gotten away with not doing in the past based on his talent and natural athleticism, and he can't get away with blowing off anymore.

 

I don't intend to question Pablo's hunger to play or his quest for championship. I question his ability to prepare himself to be the best player he can be over the long term. Professional pride can be questioned. As can willingness to actually do what it takes to make the most of his talent. but in the short term yeah I bet he really does want to be the one out there leading the charge. He just needs to get it into his head that there's some things he needs to do to take care of himself so that can happen.

 

I think he wants to go out there and perform. I don't for a second think he just doesn't want to play anymore.

 

What I do believe is that he isn't prepared to put in the work for that, though. He knows how bad he was last season, and yet his answer to that is to walk in to spring training THAT out of shape? It can only be for three reasons:

 

1) He just doesn't have the desire to put the work in to get into good shape.

2) He thought he could turn up carrying that huge gut and think he didn't need to do conditioning as he'd be fine without all that work.

 

Both are equally reprehensible to me. Or...

 

3) He has an eating disorder which has gotten out of control at this point and he can't help himself.

 

If it's that, he has my sympathies and I hope he gets help during his deserved time on the sidelines.

[Kimmi]

It means the arguments are pointless because you refuse to see a different point of view. You'll argue for a player no matter what contrary evidence exists.

 

OK then there is no sense in me arguing for any player anymore.

 

Carry on.

[a700hitter]

OK then there is no sense in me arguing for any player anymore.

 

Carry on.

No. Don't take your ball and go home. If you continue to argue losing cases, you will become associated with those cases. A good litigator settles the cases that he knows are likely losers.

[TedWilliams101]

I know it's beating a dead horse, but I just still can't understand how the FO could have balked at resigning Beltre at $16M a year after having a MVP calibre season (and a good career and no evidence of falling off a cliff), tossed out trash for several years and then went and way way way overspent ($19M per) for the fat-ass Panda express. It literally makes no sense. /End rant

[User Name]

TW101 ranting......nooooo! I can't believe it!

[cp176]

FTR, I am not trying to come off as being holier than thou, although I'm sure it's coming across that way.

 

I can't deny that I have made assumptions or judgments about people based on their appearances. And I have been very wrong.

 

I like this post. You all alright. All of us come across this way from time to time. Fewer of us would ever admit it.

[TedWilliams101]

Somehow I don't think Pablo's problem is hunger. Any and all puns aside, I actually think he really does want to get out there and perform. It's just that there's some prepwork he needs to do to be the best he can be, that he's gotten away with not doing that prepwork in the past based on his talent and natural athleticism, and he can't get away with blowing off the preliminaries anymore and he hasn't fully realized that.

 

I don't intend to question Pablo's hunger to play or his quest for championship. I question his ability to prepare himself to be the best player he can be over the long term. Professional pride can be questioned. As can willingness to actually do what it takes to make the most of his talent. but in the short term yeah I bet he really does want to be the one out there leading the charge. He just needs to get it into his head that there's some things he needs to do to take care of himself so that can happen.

 

To me, the 'hunger' is NOT just on the field, but what separates those who have the 'hunger' to spend every waking hour dedicated to being the best. If Pablo can't find it in him to go on a diet and train year round, he doesn't have this 'hunger'. Period. What makes Tom Brady the greatest of all time is specifically his never ending 'hunger' that has him going into Foxboro at 1am to watch more film and get more practice in.

 

For the love of God, is the insane amount of money and playing for a championship not enough incentive? I know plenty of amateur athletes that put in an insane amount of daily training while working full time and having a family and they aren't even getting any money, even when competing! So no, Panda is not 'hungry' to be a great athlete.

[jacksonianmarch]

OK then there is no sense in me arguing for any player anymore.

 

Carry on.

 

Kimmi, wearer of the rosy glasses and mixer of the Kool Aid

[User Name]

.....which is hilarious coming from the man who gave rise to The Chart. Throwing stones, glass houses and all that.

[cp176]

Kimmi, wearer of the rosy glasses and mixer of the Kool Aid

 

Most of us could stand a little slurp of that Kool aid from time to time. For sure if you live in New England. Nice drive into Boston yesterday.

[mvp 78]

.....which is hilarious coming from the man who gave rise to The Chart. Throwing stones, glass houses and all that.

 

And Kimmi is very honest about her bias. She's more self aware than most people on here who claim to not have an agenda.

[User Name]

And Kimmi is very honest about her bias. She's more self aware than most people on here who claim to not have an agenda.

 

I'll take honesty over douchiness 10/10 times.

[mvp 78]

I'll take honesty over douchiness 10/10 times.

 

Kimmi helps to provide balance to this haven of douchebaggery.

[sk7326]

I know it's beating a dead horse, but I just still can't understand how the FO could have balked at resigning Beltre at $16M a year after having a MVP calibre season (and a good career and no evidence of falling off a cliff), tossed out trash for several years and then went and way way way overspent ($19M per) for the fat-ass Panda express. It literally makes no sense. /End rant

 

IIRC it is because they traded for a projected star 1B, and they had one of the league's ten best hitters moving to 3B. What they got wrong was Yook's body falling apart piece by piece.

[Kimmi]

I like this post. You all alright. All of us come across this way from time to time. Fewer of us would ever admit it.

 

Thank you.

[Elktonnick]

If it carries an MLB license, it gets shared 30 ways. I don't think a team can create it's own merchandise without the MLB license.

 

I think it also depends on where it's bought and sold. For example, MLB merchandise sold at the ballpark or through the club's owned outlets nets the club a higher percentage.

[a700hitter]

I think it also depends on where it's bought and sold. For example, MLB merchandise sold at the ballpark or through the club's owned outlets nets the club a higher percentage.

I looked at that one other time. It doesn't matter where the merchandise is sold. Anything carrying the MLB license gets split 30 ways.

[Dojji]

which really helps parity and beefs up the small markets which I like a lot Like Bud or hate him he probably left the league in a better condition than he found it

[sk7326]

which really helps parity and beefs up the small markets which I like a lot Like Bud or hate him he probably left the league in a better condition than he found it

 

For the most part. Revenue sharing is key. Can't really have a salary cap given the gigantic gaps in local TV money. That said, salary caps are for assuring profits than balancing competition. (the sport of baseball itself kind of does that)

[Elktonnick]

I looked at that one other time. It doesn't matter where the merchandise is sold. Anything carrying the MLB license gets split 30 ways.

I think you miss the point. Any retail outlet which sells any licensed product makes a profit on the merchandise it sells. The license holder gets a percentage of the gross. However the owner of a retail outlet makes its profit as well. That's why a team has an incentive to sell its merchandise at its owned retail outlet. Of course a team may also have a concessionaire handle the retail outlet at the ballpark.

[a700hitter]

I think you miss the point. Any retail outlet which sells any licensed product makes a profit on the merchandise it sells. The license holder gets a percentage of the gross. However the owner of a retail outlet makes its profit as well. That's why a team has an incentive to sell its merchandise at its owned retail outlet. Of course a team may also have a concessionaire handle the retail outlet at the ballpark.

Yes, I get it. If they own the retail outlet, they will get the retailer's share.

[Elktonnick]

Travis Shaw just showed everyone why he is the starting 3rd baseman. Sandoval never makes that play.

[Dojji]

Agreed, NWIH Sandoval makes that play. Shaw is shaping up to be the pleasant surprise of the year. Still reserving judgemment at the moment, it's way too early to do anything else, but so far I'm pretty impressed. Edited April 9, 2016 by Dojji

[sk7326]

Agreed, NWIH Sandoval makes that play. Shaw is shaping up to be the pleasant surprise of the year. Still reserving judgemment at the moment, it's way too early to do anything else, but so far I'm pretty impressed.

 

I enjoyed that you are "reserving judgment" following offering a judgment.

[Dojji]

not really.

[User Name]

I enjoyed that you are "reserving judgment" following offering a judgment.

 

It's like we're the same person.

[Dojji]

That belt buckle, if Sandoval is not careful, will become the enduring image of his role on the team this year.

[jad]

Hey! He's 4 for 5!