Travis Shaw

[User Name]

"Eat the blame". Heh. Well done.

[cp176]

fat joke! unacceptable!

[Dojji]

Three paragraphs of reasonable obliterated by one accidental fat joke.

 

Yep I guess this is Talksox.

[cp176]

Three paragraphs of reasonable obliterated by one accidental fat joke.

 

Yep I guess this is Talksox.

 

You can't get away with anything these daze!

[mvp 78]

"Accidental..."

[User Name]

Three paragraphs of reasonable obliterated by one accidental fat joke.

 

Yep I guess this is Talksox.

 

Come on, you know it was a good post if my reply was to laugh at the "accidental" fat joke.

 

I mean, that's the whole point, that at some juncture the blame has to go towards Pablo. There's no need to make all these excuses for him. His conditioning is terrible, full stop. That's it.

[Dojji]

So if we do assume that Shaw winds up starting at third base all year what kind of production do we see happening here? Do we see a Shea Hillenbrand level between .750 and .800? Is there room to hope for more? Is that a little over exuberant? What do people see Shaw doing if he's given his head at third all year for some reason?

[mvp 78]

.800+. It's what he hit last year. He says he's comfortable at 3b so I wouldn't expect a positional change to affect his hitting.

[Dojji]

I'm not quite that confident, I'm gonna stay with Shea Hillenbrand level production which would actually be exceptionally good. I think shaw's going to be mostly valuable, but have some slumps that keep him away from the .800 OPS gold standard.

[mvp 78]

I'm not quite that confident, I'm gonna stay with Shea Hillenbrand level production which would actually be exceptionally good. I think shaw's going to be mostly valuable, but have some slumps that keep him away from the .800 OPS gold standard.

 

As long as he doesn't have Hillenbrand's attitude. There's no Bill Mueller to take over for him.

[Dojji]

lol true, I'm looking just at numbers. I do have an optimistic feeling about Shaw's ability to hit like a corner infielder, he's demonstrated that he has that potential. Let's see how he adjusts to full time hitting and pitchers game planning how to beat him.

[sk7326]

So if we do assume that Shaw winds up starting at third base all year what kind of production do we see happening here? Do we see a Shea Hillenbrand level between .750 and .800? Is there room to hope for more? Is that a little over exuberant? What do people see Shaw doing if he's given his head at third all year for some reason?

 

I don't know if Shaw has Hillenbrand's raw power. On the other hand, Travis Shaw seems to understand that some pitches are balls, some pitches are strikes, and if you get 4 balls during an at-bat it comes with a free trip to first base. Hillenbrand knew none of those things.

[mvp 78]

I don't know if Shaw has Hillenbrand's raw power. On the other hand, Travis Shaw seems to understand that some pitches are balls, some pitches are strikes, and if you get 4 balls during an at-bat it comes with a free trip to first base. Hillenbrand knew none of those things.

 

At the same age of 25, Shaw had more HR's while only needing half of the ab's that Hillenbrand did.

[User Name]

At the same age of 25, Shaw had more HR's while only needing half of the ab's that Hillenbrand did.

 

"Raw power" and "playable" or "gametime" power are not the same thing. Hillenbrand had big power projection, but to hit with power consistently, you need to be able to swing at strikes, and square up breaking balls.

[jacksonianmarch]

Travis Shaw will be the opening day 3b. He has beaten out Pablo

[Station 13]

Travis Shaw will be the opening day 3b. He has beaten out Pablo

 

This is 2 week old news.

[iortiz]

90 M on the bench, that hurts, ouch!

[iortiz]

Seems like they are looking to trade him somehow according to ESPN.

[mvp 78]

90 M on the bench, that hurts, ouch!

 

I feel sorrier for the bench than I do for Henry's wallet.

[mvp 78]

Seems like they are looking to trade him somehow according to ESPN.

 

Good luck with that.

[Kimmi]

This is 2 week old news.

 

No surprise there.

 

In case anyone was unclear on my stance, let me go on record as saying I think it's the wrong move to start the season. This is not in any way a knock on Shaw or his ability to get the job done. But, what's done is done.

 

So that said, I hope Shaw brings extra energy to the team and plays like an All-Star.

 

Four more days....Go Sox!

[Kimmi]

Seems like they are looking to trade him somehow according to ESPN.

 

If they're not planning on starting him, they need to trade him.

 

Even if it means eating most of his contract.

[mvp 78]

Four more days....Go Sox!

 

This is really all that matters now. I'm really hoping for this team to surprise everyone...

[Dojji]

It's got the potential, but very little certainly. It could certainly happen.

[Kimmi]

This is really all that matters now. I'm really hoping for this team to surprise everyone...

 

Why would it be a surprise if the Sox make the playoffs?

 

Questionable decisions aside, it's still a very good team.

 

And Ben once again says "you're welcome".

[Bellhorn04]

Why would it be a surprise if the Sox make the playoffs?

 

Questionable decisions aside, it's still a very good team.

 

And Ben once again says "you're welcome".

 

Those thank yous to Ben will have to wait about 6 months.

[Dojji]

Yeah, there's a lot of unproven potential in this team. If you're an optimist this team looks really really good, if you're a pessimist, at least 6 players in the opening day lineup will have proven little or nothing on either the offensive side, the defensive side, or both, for the positions they're occupying.

 

Hanley hasn't proven much at first base, Shaw is unproven at third, left field is a potential mess, Betts has been shifted to a somewhat new position in right field, JBJ needs to prove he can hit, and Swihart looks promising at catcher but has a long way to go and may be challenged by Vazquez later in the year if he struggles.

 

Add to that the very real likelihood that Pedroia gets hurt (again) and the only players in the lineup you can fully count on are Ortiz and Bogaerts. We have good potential in other positions but potential is iall it is

 

Pitching is mostlythe same, with the bullpen and the rotation both having 1 stalwart and a whole lot of swingin' possibilities.

 

Add it all up and you have one of the more interesting seasons we've seen in awhile with a lot of storylines to watch. Team could be great, or we could be in the basement again if we have some bad luck and players aren't as good as we hope they are.

Edited March 31, 2016 by Dojji

[iortiz]

Why would it be a surprise if the Sox make the playoffs?

 

Questionable decisions aside, it's still a very good team.

 

And Ben once again says "you're welcome".

 

LOL! your love for Ben is beyond this planet Kim (just kidding).

 

Ben is very gone because he left a mess in the last two years.

 

Anyways hopefully DD's era give us new satisfactions.

[mvp 78]

Why would it be a surprise if the Sox make the playoffs?

 

Questionable decisions aside, it's still a very good team.

 

And Ben once again says "you're welcome".

 

It's a surprise because they were in last place the previous 2 years. They aren't favorites to make the playoffs.

[iortiz]

Good luck with that.

 

Yeah I don't see this happening unless you eat most of his contract or you give up top prospects in a possible trade. Pablo has very little value these days.