Travis Shaw

[cp176]

I find CP's sarcasm to be humorous commentary. Lighten up U.N.

 

 

Sometimes I can't help myself. I'm so bored right now that it is driving me crazy. Wife says I travelled that road a long time ago. Maybe next week we will do the Fenway tour for something to do.

[User Name]

I find CP's sarcasm to be humorous commentary. Lighten up U.N.

 

What I meant by "It doesn't suit him" is that he's not controversial in the traditional Talksox way. That's all.

[User Name]

Sorry I was just kidding with you. For what its worth, most of the time I agree with you. Most of the time. That might be kind of scary in way but oh well.

 

See above post. Agreeing with me should not scare you either. I'm must-read material.

[cp176]

What I meant by "It doesn't suit him" is that he's not controversial in the traditional Talksox way. That's all.

 

I'm taking this as high praise.

[cp176]

See above post. Agreeing with me should not scare you either. I'm must-read material.

 

 

I absolutely agree that you are must read material!

[User Name]

I have been telling you for years that I am too complex to be put in a box and characterized. I think independently, and the only philosophy that I have is finding ways to improve the team. I am neither a stathead nor a traditionalist, neither for or against youth or veterans. I am just a knowledgeable fan who has opinions about what it takes to produce a competitive team. On the internet, people like to label people as one thing or another to help them understand their posts, but the preconceived notion just confounds the comprehension.

 

a700 hitter in five words: Elderly white old timey Republican. There, boxed.

[mvp 78]

a700 hitter in five words: Elderly white old timey Republican. There, boxed.

 

Watch where you use those trigger words, sir...

[a700hitter]

a700 hitter in five words: Elderly white old timey Republican. There, boxed.

I have a few years to go before being elderly. I am 10 years away from drawing Social Security. I have come to hate Republicans as much as I despise the Democrats, because they are just the other side of a corrupt coin. So, you are wrong there too. And I don't know what old timey means -- that I like Coke Classic? Do you see what happens? Your boxes are empty, and you have no idea what I am going to think on any given topic except for those which I am already on the record. Just read what I write as if you wrote it instead of with a preconceived filter and you will better understand what I am saying. I have made great efforts to read your posts without the "jackass" filter that I had been using and that works better.

Edited March 25, 2016 by a700hitter

[Dojji]

I do love that people immediately determined that my caution on Shaw meant that I was somehow supporting sandoval.

[Spudboy]

I do love that people immediately determined that my caution on Shaw meant that I was somehow supporting sandoval.

 

I never said that. I just don't see why caution with Shaw is such a concern. Any more than with any other unproven player.

[User Name]

I have a few years to go before being elderly. I am 10 years away from drawing Social Security. I have come to hate Republicans as much as I despise the Democrats, because they are just the other side of a corrupt coin. So, you are wrong there too. And I don't know what old timey means -- that I like Coke Classic? Do you see what happens? Your boxes are empty, and you have no idea what I am going to think on any given topic except for those which I am already on the record. Just read what I write as if you wrote it instead of with a preconceived filter and you will better understand what I am saying. I have made great efforts to read your posts without the "jackass" filter that I had been using and that works better.

 

I need proof that you hate the Republicans, because I saw you whining about the Dems in Pete's Facebook. Don't deny it. Old-timey means "Back in my day" and "Yaz would have played through that", so I'm not giving that up. I will give up elderly, touche. So you're still half-boxed.

 

Let me just say don't think I'm alone in the jackass department. We're both jackasses, simply usually opposing point of views. After all, "jackass" in the traditional sense is just an extremely stubborn individual. We're both it.

[a700hitter]

I need proof that you hate the Republicans, because I saw you whining about the Dems in Pete's Facebook. Don't deny it. Old-timey means "Back in my day" and "Yaz would have played through that", so I'm not giving that up. I will give up elderly, touche. So you're still half-boxed.

 

Let me just say don't think I'm alone in the jackass department. We're both jackasses, simply usually opposing point of views. After all, "jackass" in the traditional sense is just an extremely stubborn individual. We're both it.

I do whine about Democrats, and i do hate them more than the Republicans who I have come to despise as well. Unfortunately, we have a 2 party system, and they are both corrupt and do not respect the will of the people. Politics sickens me these days. As for the jackass thing, neither of us is a jackass all of the time .

[Kimmi]

The problem here is that you don't need stats to know when a player can barely move. And he only has himself to blame for that. He's not working on anything, he's just too fat to move.

 

Butterfield said he was working on things to help improve his range.

 

I don't know whether Pablo will be able to play adequate defense or not. All I'm saying is that he deserves the chance to show whether he can do it or not in real baseball games. As I've said before, if he doesn't show improvement, I'll drive his bus out of town.

[Kimmi]

Plus Pablo's man boobs inhibit the movement of the bat through the zone.

 

And I bet he can not see his pecker when standing up. Unless he is hung like Mandingo.

 

Haters gonna hate.

[Kimmi]

If one looks really closely at Sandoval's defensive WAR one sees that his defensive ability he never has been outstanding "From 2009-14, he ranked ninth out of 19 qualified third basemen in Fangraphs' Defense metric (19.7) and 10th in Ultimate Zone Rating (8.7). So he was right in the middle of the pack — pretty good. " but not outstanding

 

"Then came 2015, his first season with the Boston Red Sox. His Defense metric (-15.1) and UZR (-16.9) ranked worst among all qualified third basemen. "

More importantly in 2014 he lost 40 lbs in 2013 he lost 22 lbs. Photos of him in 2014 show a much slimmer man. So the obvious conclusion is that Sandoval has to lose a lot of weight in order to be an effective above average fielder. In 2014, he was motivated by his upcoming free agency, what motivates him now?

 

No one has every claimed that Sandoval has ever been outstanding defensively. He's been average to slightly above average. Last year was an anomaly.

[Kimmi]

Pablo was never that good. The upside of hoping for a bounce back season is just not worth it.

 

He was never worth his contract, but he has been a pretty good third baseman.

[mvp 78]

Haters gonna hate.

 

Hate the game, not the fat!

[Kimmi]

That's called "being a contrarian", and it's a very annoying habit.

 

Actually, it's called being realistic.

 

It is still in the team's best interest to have Pablo play a decent 3B, allowing Shaw to be the supersub.

 

We have to remember that moves do not occur in a vacuum. What good is Pablo going to serve sitting on the bench?

[Kimmi]

I have a few years to go before being elderly. I am 10 years away from drawing Social Security. I have come to hate Republicans as much as I despise the Democrats, because they are just the other side of a corrupt coin. So, you are wrong there too. And I don't know what old timey means -- that I like Coke Classic? Do you see what happens? Your boxes are empty, and you have no idea what I am going to think on any given topic except for those which I am already on the record. Just read what I write as if you wrote it instead of with a preconceived filter and you will better understand what I am saying. I have made great efforts to read your posts without the "jackass" filter that I had been using and that works better.

 

Old-timey = traditionalist

[Kimmi]

Hate the game, not the fat!

 

I'm a lover, not a hater.

[Bellhorn04]

It'll be interesting to see the reaction if Shaw goes into a little slump and those volatile small sample numbers take a dip.

[a700hitter]

Old-timey = traditionalist

If by traditionalist you mean that I like Classic Coca Cola, I would have to plead guilty. Other than that, nothing about my thought patterns is traditionalist.

[mvp 78]

I'm a lover, not a hater.

 

Idk... You didn't like Hanley at 1b for a while there...

[User Name]

Butterfield said he was working on things to help improve his range.

 

I don't know whether Pablo will be able to play adequate defense or not. All I'm saying is that he deserves the chance to show whether he can do it or not in real baseball games. As I've said before, if he doesn't show improvement, I'll drive his bus out of town.

 

He can.....if he drops the weight. The problem is that guys like Spudboy and I speak from experience. There's a world of difference between trying to be competitive at something being 300 pounds of blob, or overweight at 240/250. That much mass gets in the way of the most mundane of tasks let alone playing baseball at the MLB level.

[Kimmi]

Idk... You didn't like Hanley at 1b for a while there...

 

No, I didn't. And yet, did you ever hear me bash him?

 

On the contrary. I was defending him against all of the character assassinating posts.

 

Also, before Hanley had a chance to play 1B, did you ever see a post from me saying that Shaw should be our starting 1B this year?

[a700hitter]

No, I didn't. And yet, did you ever hear me bash him?

 

On the contrary. I was defending him against all of the character assassinating posts.

 

Also, before Hanley had a chance to play 1B, did you ever see a post from me saying that Shaw should be our starting 1B this year?

You criticized him for his lack of his ability to stay engaged enough in the game to play 1B. That is pretty similar to the criticisms of his work ethic.

[cp176]

It'll be interesting to see the reaction if Shaw goes into a little slump and those volatile small sample numbers take a dip.

 

I'm sure that no one will be happy but this discussion I don't think has anything to do with players as people. Players as players and who deserves the job. Shaw has earned it. All things are subject to change but in this instance if you are going to have a credible program you have to go with the better player. Could it change? Of course it could. I don't see anyone here saying that they expect incredible performances out of Shaw. I think people are kind of cheering for him because he has worked hard but most of us I think want the best player to be at third that we can have.

[Kimmi]

You criticized him for his lack of his ability to stay engaged enough in the game to play 1B. That is pretty similar to the criticisms of his work ethic.

 

No, it's not. I also said that I didn't think he could help it, and that it wasn't "on purpose". You and I even debated about what difference it made whether he was doing it on purpose or not. IMO, there's a big difference.

 

And, when MVP stated before ST that being involved in almost every play would probably help his focus, I agreed that it very well might.

 

In other words, I was willing to give Hanley a chance, despite my very strong concerns about his ability to get the job done.

 

I have my doubts about whether Pablo's range will be adequate enough to play defense at 3rd. But I'm not going to call him a lazy slob who doesn't care based on his appearance.

 

I also said that I'm more concerned with Castillo then I am with either Pablo or Hanley. He makes bonehead plays. But I'm not trying to ship him off for nothing.

Castillo gets his chance too.

[a700hitter]

No, it's not. I also said that I didn't think he could help it, and that it wasn't "on purpose". You and I even debated about what difference it made whether he was doing it on purpose or not. IMO, there's a big difference.

 

So, you are worried that he has a mental deficiency that might render him less than adequate at 1B. Others are worried that maybe he lacks the work ethic. No one knows which if either it might be, but apparently both have noticed behaviors that are concerning. You say that those who think he isn't trying are engaging in character assassination, but you seem to be wondering whether he is just an airhead (aka a dummy). Neither characterization is flattering, so you shouldn't be throwing stones.

[mvp 78]

No, I didn't. And yet, did you ever hear me bash him?

 

On the contrary. I was defending him against all of the character assassinating posts.

 

Also, before Hanley had a chance to play 1B, did you ever see a post from me saying that Shaw should be our starting 1B this year?

 

What character assassination has really gone on here? Calling Pablo fat?