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Of course!

 

What about Tazawa?

 

Is he still here? Why have a set up guy if you never need to close out games because you're always down by 5 runs?

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Is he still here? Why have a set up guy if you never need to close out games because you're always down by 5 runs?

 

Sad and true.

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Well, last year seemed to work with Bogaerts at 3B and Drew at SS. WMB has never done a thing to earn a starting 3B spot and should have been dealt in the offseason which I suggested multiple times at the end of last season. He had little value then, he has zero now. Bogaerts is not a SS. He had a reputation in the minors as a below average SS and he played himself out of the position this year.

 

We might be in a better position right now if we didn't have to deal with the WMB's, Ryan Roberts and Brock Holts of the world who literally produce nothing stacked ahead of a LF that produces nothing, and a CF that produces nothing. Drew would have at least given them some defensive stability that would have allowed Xander to play 3B.

 

I get that, but I don't understand your statement that 'they saved a grand total of 4 million.' I would guess Boras was originally asking for 35-45 million.

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Can we all just stop for the moment and realize as bad as it has been they are only 5 games out of 1st place. They rolled the dice with the youngsters for 2 months and didn't win. But they didn't lose either. They are not out of it and there is plenty of baseball left to get it straightened out. Yes some things need to be tinkered with, but it's not like they went with the youngsters and became the Houston Astros and the season is lost already.

 

Right you are BSN but the time is fast approaching when the Red Sox have to start playing better---and that means getting solid starting pitching, a much improved hitting attack, and solidifying the defense without g iving away too much offense, which surprisingly, has been their Achilles heel this season. As far as rolling the dice with their youngsters, they are still ding it. In Bogaerts case it looks like he is ready to really erupt and we can sure his a solid bat in that lineup. That's a plus. Jackie Bradley is not a plus at the present time. No matter how great he is on defense, and he is very great there, we cannot carry a Mendoza line hitter in our lineup when so many others are not hitting up to their talents. What they team really needs is to brace themselves and win this series in Tampa Bay this weekend. They need to make a recovery as soon as they can.

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It feels good to get all of that off my chest. Thank you.

 

mvp, I never thought you would ever make me laugh but I can hardly type this as I'm as close to rolling on the floor and LMFAO. Well I think we can also use a good laugh or two. Now is it possible we can make some hay against the Tampas and win that series this weekend? That would make us all smile.

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mvp, I never thought you would ever make me laugh but I can hardly type this as I'm as close to rolling on the floor and LMFAO. Well I think we can also use a good laugh or two. Now is it possible we can make some hay against the Tampas and win that series this weekend? That would make us all smile.

 

No, the Sox aren't winning this series.

 

No chance. No chance in Hell...

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I get that, but I don't understand your statement that 'they saved a grand total of 4 million.' I would guess Boras was originally asking for 35-45 million.

 

 

Your right, I apologize. I was confusing the 10M that he will be paid out of the 14M remaining on the QO. I forgot that Drew rejected the QO, in the hopes of a multi year deal. Sorry for the confusion.

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No, the Sox aren't winning this series.

 

No chance. No chance in Hell...

 

And I thought I was being a pessimist. Well can we at least win one of the games? Right now I'm on Begging Blvd. No, I think we are going to win tonight. How do you like that ?????

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And I thought I was being a pessimist. Well can we at least win one of the games? Right now I'm on Begging Blvd. No, I think we are going to win tonight. How do you like that ?????

 

You're fooling yourself.

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You're fooling yourself.

 

Guilty as charged.....I fooled myself thinking we would win, but the way Lackey pitched you would have thought we could eke across a couple of runs to give the big guy a win. You know, some accuse me of being always on a rant and they have a point. I'm at the point where I'm just numb and at a total loss to explain what the hell is going on. I think I will have to download by DVD's of 2004, 2007 and 2013 to get my jollies and wonder when the hell we will get in a WS again.

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When hitters no. 7 and 8 (who have been doing well), are suddenly thrown into the 1 and 2 spots, because no one else seems to be able to hit, things can't be good. Maybe Farrell decided this was the only way to put the kind of pressure on them that would surely result in settling them back into the bottom of the order.
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The airwaves in the bean are confused as to why they have Drew back. Paraphrasing here 'He isn't going to turn this team into an automatic winner and he isn't the answer offensively. You either go all in before the season or you are in a development yr. Coming into the yr, it was all about development. Now, signing Drew, looks like a desperation move which stunts the development of Bogaerts as a SS'. It's a good point, but at the same time, I am not sure anyone views Bogaerts as a SS long term.
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It also will put the guy who is presently your best hitter (Brock Holt!!!) on the bench, giving up about a hundred points in BA in the process. (The same sort of drop that happened with Bradley for Ellsbury, and Nava, alas, for himself.)
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It also will put the guy who is presently your best hitter (Brock Holt!!!) on the bench, giving up about a hundred points in BA in the process. (The same sort of drop that happened with Bradley for Ellsbury, and Nava, alas, for himself.)

 

Cherington was hitting homers last season with his signings, firing on all cylinders. This year he gagging, whiffing and plain striking out. The Drew signing was stupid and will net us nothing.

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I am not sure how to fix the Red Sox, but the offense needs a lot of help. This is just a thought, but with Texas floundering with injuries and needing to rebuild, I'd offer Texan Will Middlebrooks to them for Adrian Beltre and the remaining two years on his contract. I'd then basically platoon Drew and Bougaerts at short.
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They wouldn't bite, and why should they? You'd have to significantly sweeten that deal.

 

I get that it is a long shot venture. The Rangers have impressive Joey Gallo coming along at third, but he really isn't a third base prospect. He is more of a DH/first base big leaguer.

 

If the Rangers want to rebuild, they will have to get rid of some salary. Fielder was an expensive mistake and not moveable. Beltre is aging and will surely decline before the Rangers have things straightened out. Middlebrooks might not be enough, and they probably would want some pitching. I'd rather the Sox pass before giving up more than a low level quality pitching prospect.

 

I am working on the assumption that the Rangers need to regroup and rebuild. They are in a division which has Oakland embarrassing both the big spending Rangers and Angels.

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Bogaerts had started hitting before they resigned Drew, and i don't see how those two things have anything to do with each other. Drew or no Drew, XB's playing time is secure.
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The airwaves in the bean are confused as to why they have Drew back. Paraphrasing here 'He isn't going to turn this team into an automatic winner and he isn't the answer offensively. You either go all in before the season or you are in a development yr. Coming into the yr, it was all about development. Now, signing Drew, looks like a desperation move which stunts the development of Bogaerts as a SS'. It's a good point, but at the same time, I am not sure anyone views Bogaerts as a SS long term.
It was only made because of WMB's injury and from that standpoint, what else could we have done? Personally I like the move and wanted it all along. Yes this stops XB's development at SS, and yes I think he is our SS of the future, if only because Ceccinni is our future 3rd baseman and we'll want both players, but I think we should keep a winning team on the field while rebuilding and Drew helps with that. Does it help with our offense? Not really but Im thinking the FO believes itll turn itself around. Edited by reYoukilis
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Move is OK, but it doesn't actually solve much. XB has been more or less everything we should have expected so far. The only reason he has "underperformed" in any way would be ridiculous hype. That said, in the short term - this is a cleaner way of upgrading 3B than any other alternative. The team has had offensive issues - some of it bad luck, some of it basic regression.

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