Marahiro Tanaka And Sox Starting Rotation.

[Palodios]

Cherrington has been keeping tabs on Tanaka. It would make an interesting offseason if the Red Sox signed Tanaka to raise up the price on Dempster/Peavy. We seem to have all assumed he isn't coming here, but if Lester won't agree to a reasonable contract, maybe he makes sense.

 

It seems like it would have a domino effect. The Yankees, Orioles and Blue Jays are ALL looking for new starting pitching right now, and there is a pile of other teams looking hard for starters.

[mvp 78]

@jonahkeri: #Shocked MT @BNightengale #Dodgers have let it be known they plan to go all-out to sign Tanaka, saying they certainly won't be out-bid.

[Bellhorn04]

@jonahkeri: #Shocked MT @BNightengale #Dodgers have let it be known they plan to go all-out to sign Tanaka, saying they certainly won't be out-bid.

 

LOL I'd love to see the Yankees go toe-to-toe with them.

[mvp 78]

As long as the Yankees overpay, I'm fine with him going there. Anyone have an idea on the contract he's looking for? 5/87.5?

[Bellhorn04]

As long as the Yankees overpay, I'm fine with him going there. Anyone have an idea on the contract he's looking for? 5/87.5?

 

With the way things are shaping up, he should be looking well north of that, I'd say.

[a700hitter]

I am never okay with the Yankees beating us whether they overpaid for their team or not. I'd prefer that he go elsewhere.

[mvp 78]

More than 17.5 AAV? Jeez.

[Bellhorn04]

More than 17.5 AAV? Jeez.

 

I think so. We made a total investment of 103 million in Dice-K.

 

If someone signs Tanaka for 87.5 million, plus the 20 million fee, that's 'only' 107.5 million.

 

With all the money flying around now, with the lack of premium free agent pitchers, and with the Yankees and Dodgers both with hard-ons, this should get crazy.

[Palodios]

Ubaldo, Santana and Garza are looking at 80-100 million this year. I would not surprised to see the total cost to be up to 120-140 for MT.

[seabeachfred]

Ubaldo, Santana and Garza are looking at 80-100 million this year. I would not surprised to see the total cost to be up to 120-140 for MT.

 

Hey Palodios, think we'd be better served by resigning Jon Lester long term because I'm pretty sure the Red Sox don't want to get into a bidding war for Tanaka's services. With the MFY and disgustingly greedy Dodgers both jumping in with both feet it doesn't do us much good at all to join the "fun" Besides, unless our front office is lying to us we have some pretty good young pitchers down on the farm that might be ready sooner than we think......Owens, Barnes and Renaudo to name three.

[seabeachfred]

I am never okay with the Yankees beating us whether they overpaid for their team or not. I'd prefer that he go elsewhere.

 

When it comes to choosing which of the two greedy teams Tanaka chooses, to me it which poison is preferable to the other----the Yankees or the Dodgers, the two teams I despise more than any others. Come on Cubs, Seattle and Texas get into it and make sure none of those two s*** can teams get him.

[a700hitter]

When it comes to choosing which of the two greedy teams Tanaka chooses, to me it which poison is preferable to the other----the Yankees or the Dodgers, the two teams I despise more than any others. Come on Cubs, Seattle and Texas get into it and make sure none of those two s*** can teams get him.

I hate both the Yankees and Dodgers as you do, but at least the Dodgers are not in our division. Also, I have the benefit of the Dodgers being 3000 miles away. I pay attention to them only when I want to hear the great Vin Scully.

[Palodios]

Hey Palodios, think we'd be better served by resigning Jon Lester long term because I'm pretty sure the Red Sox don't want to get into a bidding war for Tanaka's services. With the MFY and disgustingly greedy Dodgers both jumping in with both feet it doesn't do us much good at all to join the "fun" Besides, unless our front office is lying to us we have some pretty good young pitchers down on the farm that might be ready sooner than we think......Owens, Barnes and Renaudo to name three.

I'd take Lester over Tanaka too, but if Lester is looking for 200 million, I'd rather ages 26-32 of Tanaka over ages 32-40 of Lester.

[User Name]

Right off the bat, John Shea tweets that Boston is one of Tanaka's preferred cities (NY and LA are the others). Close is clearly trying to play the big-boy markets here.

[Station 13]

Red Sox could offer Tanaka an opt out after 4 year, which he will be just 29. It gives him a last shot at 1 final big contract. The Red Sox get arguably his peak performance before age 30.

[Palodios]

Red Sox could offer Tanaka an opt out after 4 year, which he will be just 29. It gives him a last shot at 1 final big contract. The Red Sox get arguably his peak performance before age 30.

 

If the Red Sox get anywhere with Tanaka, it will be because they get creative with a contract. They could do a few of things -- a low AAV contract with plenty of years that brands him as a Red-Sox-for-Life, a short term contract with high AAV that lets Tanaka get back onto the market for a monster deal in a few years, or a contract with an opt-out option. I don't think Tanaka will take any of them -- he seems primed for a 6/120 to 7/150 contract.

[Station 13]

It is reported Tanaka trip to the US is over, he got a physical before he left.

[dupree]

With the Dodgers in the mix and are planning on going all out plus the Yanks getting salary relief with ARod suspension for the 2014 I can see them and the Dodgers running the price up so I cant honestly see the Red Sox getting involved at such as high price.

 

Only way I see Tanaka coming here is if Tanaka himself wants the Red Sox more than any other club no matter money and wants to be in this city. But agents and the lure of big paydays in other cities will trump the desire to be in an other pay city. So I say he will be a Dodger or Yank when it is all said and done.

[jacksonianmarch]

The only way Tanaka ends up in Boston is if he likes it more than NY off the bat. The money coming out of NY and LA will be insane, and something Boston won't match

[Behindenemylines]

The only way Tanaka ends up in Boston is if he likes it more than NY off the bat. The money coming out of NY and LA will be insane, and something Boston won't match

 

Wouldn't it be funny if the Sox sneak in and get Tanaka from the $panks. They could also be just trying to raise the cost of signing Tanaka.

[dupree]

When will it be known what teams have posted the 20MM for Tanaka so we will know who he is in play for? Reason I ask is I havent seen any definites all I have seen is speculation of posting teams.

 

I think he has until the 23rd or 24th of this month to sign with one of the posting teams.

[reYoukilis]

The only way Tanaka ends up in Boston is if he likes it more than NY off the bat. The money coming out of NY and LA will be insane, and something Boston won't match

Boston seemingly has the better system in place which would be incentive in itself. Can we have him and Lester?

[jacksonianmarch]

How does having a better system incentivize a FA to come to you? Would that be a negative, knowing that if you start poorly, you can be buried?

[User Name]

I think he means the possibility of winning might entice Tanaka to go to one of the teams with a better record of recent success. That, imo, would benefit the Dodgers more than the Red Sox, since they have a great combination of money/recent success/weaker league.

[seabeachfred]

Wouldn't it be funny if the Sox sneak in and get Tanaka from the $panks. They could also be just trying to raise the cost of signing Tanaka.

 

Try the latter reason BEL. We're not getting into any bidding war for Tanaka. He is not coming to Boston. I would bet the garage on that.

[reYoukilis]

Right, and Tanaka should be good enough to start even on a good team, or all this is a sham. Though wouldnt be the first time.

[d-money]

Clayton Kershaw just became a rich man.215 million for 7 years.These baseball contracts are ridiculous and the dodgers are the evil empire of the west

[seabeachfred]

Clayton Kershaw just became a rich man.215 million for 7 years.These baseball contracts are ridiculous and the dodgers are the evil empire of the west

 

You're late with the "evil empire of the West" by 56 years d-money. Walter O'Malley, the portly and greedy former owner of the Bums, said he wanted to just like the Yankees when he hijacked the team from Brooklyn to Los Angeles in 1958, and I can tell you as a resident in the Los Angeles Metropolitan area, that team is almost as despicable as the evil empire in the East.

[SoxSport]

It's now LA vs NY, and the revenue disparity between those markets and others in MLB has become more evident than ever. You have the same situation in the NBA with its "soft" salary cap. The Lakers and the NY teams spend thru the roof. The Clippers, no. They are owned by a cheapskate--or is he the most sensible one? LOL . In the NFL, with a hard cap, you don't have any NY advantage, and LA isn't a factor. It just shows that the big market advantage disappears with a hard cap. Now why doesn't MLB and the NBA have a hard cap? Probably because the Players Unions don't want one--they want the salaries to be uncontrolled. Also, TV likes the biggest markets for the most revenue. You can even see that in the NFL feature games during the season--NY gets more than its fair share.

[Bellhorn04]

It's now LA vs NY, and the revenue disparity between those markets and others in MLB has become more evident than ever. You have the same situation in the NBA with its "soft" salary cap. The Lakers and the NY teams spend thru the roof. The Clippers, no. They are owned by a cheapskate--or is he the most sensible one? LOL . In the NFL, with a hard cap, you don't have any NY advantage, and LA isn't a factor. It just shows that the big market advantage disappears with a hard cap. Now why doesn't MLB and the NBA have a hard cap? Probably because the Players Unions don't want one--they want the salaries to be uncontrolled. Also, TV likes the biggest markets for the most revenue. You can even see that in the NFL feature games during the season--NY gets more than its fair share.

 

That's nonsense. How many feature games had the Giants or the Jets this year? How many had the Patriots or the Broncos?