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Damn it, you're gonna get an explanation! It's a running gag on the fact that some posters who embody the spirit of comedy decided to nickname the awesomeness that is Ben Cherington as "Ben the boob". Palodios decided to turn that against them by highlighting all of the great properties contained within Ben's bosom.

 

That is all.

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I see. I am torn. On one hand, I like Ben. In two hands, I like boobs. But together...ew.

 

Here you go.

 

http://i41.tinypic.com/28jfpqv.jpg

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Damn it, you're gonna get an explanation! It's a running gag on the fact that some posters who embody the spirit of comedy decided to nickname the awesomeness that is Ben Cherington as "Ben the boob". Palodios decided to turn that against them by highlighting all of the great properties contained within Ben's bosom.

 

That is all.

 

On occasion I will use other complimentary phrases towards Ben's mammaries, but Succulent Breasts is the one that I think has caught on. ;)

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But the puns were supposed to be presidents, you just went off in Agnew direction with no warning.

 

I'd say I deserve extra credit for being more creative. I started the damn war, I make the rules!

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He's a veteran pitcher who has been pretty average for about 5 years now. He has pitched in the postseason twice and was rocked both times.

 

Also, he only pitched 200 innings once in the last 5 years. Hell, he's only pitched 120 innings once in the last 5 years. I think that's something that you have to think about. If he's healthy this is great, it gives us a very nice 1-4 when Buchholz returns.

 

The good news on that front is that the Sox don't need him to pitch 200 innings. They just need him to pitch two-plus months (hopefully!) of quality baseball. Peavy is more than capable of that, even with his spotty injury history.

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Anyone who's a starting pitcher should be capable of pitching 2+ months.

 

I hope you're right, and there are no more problems for the rest of the season with our pitching staff. I think that a rotation of Buch>Lester>Lacker>Peavy is going to be very tough.

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Anyone who's a starting pitcher should be capable of pitching 2+ months.

 

I hope you're right, and there are no more problems for the rest of the season with our pitching staff. I think that a rotation of Buch>Lester>Lacker>Peavy is going to be very tough.

 

Don't forget Doubront. Since May 16, here's his pitching line: 14 g, 84.2 ip, 2.76 era, 1.25 whip, 7.7 k/9

 

- In none of those 14 starts has he given up more than 3 er.

- In 4 of those starts, the Sox have scored 1 or 2 runs.

 

His record on the season could easily be something like 10-2 instead of 7-5.

 

Dude has been dealing.

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Everyone who has said that Peavy is an injury concern: You are correct, but if he and Buch go on the DL at the same time, you can count on Peavy to come back first.
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Good interview with Peavy was just on NESN. Seems like a cool guy. Hope he pitches well. Sounds like another good club house guy.
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I posted this as a link last night, but i think it went unnoticed:

 

Jake Peavy (70)

 

Pos: RHP (Starter)

 

Fastball: 65

Changeup: 75

Command/Control: 70

Cutter: 55

Curveball: 45

Delivery: 55

 

Pitch #1: Fastball, low 90’s velocity. Has arm-side run and sink to it, as it changes plains and moves late. Doesn’t bite hard but moves late which makes it tough to barrel up. Has great command and control over it, isn’t afraid to elevate it but can control it in all directions. Does a great job of getting it in under the hands of right-handed hitters.

 

Pitch #2: Changeup, low 80’s velocity. Has great up and down movement with arm-side run. Maintains great arm speed with it, as it moves late and has some bite to it. Likes to use it as a strikeout pitch. Has filthy movement that freezes hitters, a plus plus pitch.

 

Pitch #3: Cutter, mid to high 80’s velocity. Has late cut to it, and changes plains slightly. Has good biting movement to it. Has good command over it, getting consistent break. Controls it well, mainly using it to the first base side of the plate against both lefties and righties.

 

Pitch #4: Curveball, high 70’s velocity. 12-6 movement, that also has a bit of sweep to it as it reaches the plate. The 12-6 movement isn’t all that late, but the sweep is fairly late. Doesn’t use it much, likes to use it to start at bats in an effort to freeze hitters.

 

Delivery: Letter high leg lift with an over the head glove rock, followed by a glove tap when he brings his hands down. Sort of jumps towards the plate, with his upper body and head going directly towards the plate. Has good deception as he throws his glove hand out front erratically. Not the easiest delivery to repeat, it doesn’t require max effort but does put strain on his shoulder. Throws from a three quarters arm slot, and doesn’t fall off all that much. Stands on the first base side of the rubber. From the stretch, uses a belt high leg lift and quickens his delivery, maintains the glove tap.

 

Control: Has great command and control over all of his pitches. Can throw in all directions, but does leave the ball over the plate on occasion. A strong strikeout pitcher, just below a strikeout per inning. Doesn’t walk all that many, but struggles with giving up too many homeruns (which US Cellular Field is only partially responsible for). Much stronger against right-handed hitters.

 

Poise: Unflappable veteran who has seen it all and has the self confidence to overcome adversity. Not bothered by runners or big hitters. Has the attitude of a #1 pitcher and has filled that role extremely well in the past. A bulldog on the mound who isn’t afraid to pound the zone and throw inside to hitters.

 

Physical Description: Muscular and athletic frame. Has great weight distribution with strong muscle definition. Broad shoulders and strong chest, with large thighs and lower body. Could still add some weight, but is not necessary. No concern over adding bad weight in the future.

 

Projection: A top half of the rotation veteran, who has battled injuries over the past several years. When healthy is a legitimate #2 pitcher on a contending team. Capable of eating innings, racking up strike outs and contending for All-Star teams. In his prime was a perennial Cy Young contender, but those days are behind him. Could still be a major trade deadline acquisition for a team this year.

 

Just for the record, I've wanted Peavy on the Red Sox not just this summer but going back to the days he played for the Padres. We were talking about making a trade for him way back in 2007 but it went nowhere. I like his persona on the mound. He is all business and he can pitch effectively with four decent pitches. I'm expecting him to be a solid edition to our rotation.

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My concern with Peavy, aside from his injury history, is his postseason numbers. He has only made two starts in the postseason, which were both against the Cardinals. He was horrendous. Two starts, 13 earned runs, in 9.2 innings. His last postseason start was in 2006, so that is a good thing in terms of it being a while ago. The bad thing is that he does not have much experience in the postseason, but when he pitched in the playoffs, it has not been pretty. The good thing is that it was seven years ago and it was when he started game one of both series, so, maybe it will be less pressure for him since he is a middle of the rotation starter here and not the ace.
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Just for the record, I've wanted Peavy on the Red Sox not just this summer but going back to the days he played for the Padres. We were talking about making a trade for him way back in 2007 but it went nowhere. I like his persona on the mound. He is all business and he can pitch effectively with four decent pitches. I'm expecting him to be a solid edition to our rotation.

 

I thought you wanted Garza? He's all you ever talked about.

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After tonight's game I'm really glad the Sox added Peavy.

 

Jon Lester is just lost. I hate to admit it because I've been a fan of his since '08, but Lester may be washed up. He got off to a great start this year, then fell off in a big way, and I thought he was on his way back. But today, against the D-Backs, a mediocre NL team, should have been a cakewalk for him, not a 4 inning outing.

 

Lets look for Peavy to right the ship tomorrow. I like the acquisition. As other posters have pointed out he doesn't have the pressure of being an ace. I think his transition to Boston will be seamless. 7 innings and 3 runs or less tomorrow I'd be happy.

Posted
I thought you wanted Garza? He's all you ever talked about.

 

Garza would have been a terrific addition. Lets hope Peavy be better than Lester at least.

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Well I surely don't know if Lester is washed up at this point. But, if I was giving him advice I would tell him that if he is goin' out, he is going out with a whimper when he should at least go out with a bang. He is better than this. He is a better pitcher than he is showing at this point.

 

Every time he goes out and attacks the zone, attacks hitters, at least as much as he seems willing to these days, he has a pretty good outing. Every time he goes out and dicks around, he is just terrible. Today he did nothing to earn hitters respect. There was no place in the strike zone and no pitch that he could throw in the strike zone with impunity. D-back hitters owned the plate against him today. Any starting pitcher will tell you that you can't pitch successfully that way. Pretty tough to pitch bent over a table with your pants down around your ankles. If this less than aggressive posture was working for him I would say go for it Jon. But it doesn't work. The D-backs got something like eleven hits off of him. They were able to reach all the way across the plate with impunity and even pull the ball if they wanted to. They were as comfortable as if they were taking BP.

 

I don't know what he is afraid of cause it can't be worse for him than when he pitches like this. He has his worst outings pitching this way.

 

One thing for certain, Peavy will not pitch like that. He may not win but he sure as hell won't be walking off the mound pulling his pants back up along the way.

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Garza would have been a terrific addition. Lets hope Peavy be better than Lester at least.

 

Except the cost of prospects was too high and his contract ends in Sept.

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Lester is probably not the same pitcher he was his first 4 or 5 years. He's lost something off his FB and hasn't made up for it enough with his location and his other stuff. He said he was high on his pitches last night. With his stuff, he'll get hit. He has become a location pitcher. They might pick up his option next year, but he has to improve if he expects a big bucks extension. They have too many good looking prospects they've been hoarding who will be ready the next year or 2. Even now. I see Ruby has just gotten called up. Expect to see their best prospects called up the next two months.
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Lester is probably not the same pitcher he was his first 4 or 5 years. He's lost something off his FB and hasn't made up for it enough with his location and his other stuff. He said he was high on his pitches last night. With his stuff, he'll get hit. He has become a location pitcher. They might pick up his option next year, but he has to improve if he expects a big bucks extension. They have too many good looking prospects they've been hoarding who will be ready the next year or 2. Even now. I see Ruby has just gotten called up. Expect to see their best prospects called up the next two months.
It's going to be interesting to see what he has left. He was dominating in his Padre days before the injuries. My recollection is that his slider was his money pitch. Batters would miss it by a foot.

 

Rubby is coming up as an extra bullpen arm. He'll sit in the pen unless there is a low leverage situation where they need an inning. Rubby has been a train wreck lately.

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Garza would have been a terrific addition. Lets hope Peavy be better than Lester at least.

 

I hate attitudes like this. How can you not be over the moon with the Peavy trade? For all intents and purposes it was a steal by the Sox. You could argue that Texas got ripped off for Garza, depending on how much Mike Olt bounces back, at the very least they paid market value.

 

Can you honestly say you would have been happier if the Sox dealt Jackie Bradley + prospects for 10 Garza starts instead of Jose Iglesias + junk prospects for 1.5 years of Jake Peavy?

 

The 'Peavy is always hurt' argument doesn't hold much water here either since Peavy, apparently, has a fixed shoulder and Garza is becoming deputy mayor of the DL.

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I hate attitudes like this. How can you not be over the moon with the Peavy trade? For all intents and purposes it was a steal by the Sox. You could argue that Texas got ripped off for Garza, depending on how much Mike Olt bounces back, at the very least they paid market value.

 

Can you honestly say you would have been happier if the Sox dealt Jackie Bradley + prospects for 10 Garza starts instead of Jose Iglesias + junk prospects for 1.5 years of Jake Peavy?

 

The 'Peavy is always hurt' argument doesn't hold much water here either since Peavy, apparently, has a fixed shoulder and Garza is becoming deputy mayor of the DL.

 

I don't always agree with you, but this post is spot-on.

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