Early Trade deadline deals the selling Sox should make

[drewski6]

3 hours ago, Old Red said:

BTV.👎. Do you think SF would take that trade?Try, and make yourself useful sometime, and try, and make a trade for the other team with the Red Sox,  and see if you come up with the same trade.

I think SF would take that trade.  I dont understand why we are looking for trades that involve us getting recent free agents at a discount (the 20m eaten).  Giants seem to want players. RS and their fans seem to want budget and payroll efficiency.

[moonslav59]

35 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

I think SF would take that trade.  I dont understand why we are looking for trades that involve us getting recent free agents at a discount (the 20m eaten).  Giants seem to want players. RS and their fans seem to want budget and payroll efficiency.

I guess Ole Red thinks you are useless, too.

[Behindenemylines]

On 5/24/2026 at 11:24 AM, notin said:

So trades are judged at the 200PA/50 IP limits now?  Wait - are we even there yet?

Durbin has an OPS+ of 86 through 668 PA at age 26.  While not elite company, three former Sox secondbasemen have been right around that level of performance at that age.  
 

Mark Loretta, who had an OPS+ of 86 after 708 PA and only briefly played in Boston as part of his 15 year, two-time All Star career that included a Silver Slugger. (But surprisingly no Gold Gloves)

David Eckstein broke in at age 26 with an OPS+ of 89 and weak SS defense.  But he was part of two World Series champion teams, even taking home the WS MVP in 2001.

Freddy Sánchez - inarguably the least successful of the three, not even taking over as a full time starter until he was 27.  Of course he did somehow manage to win a batting title.

 

That’s three reasons to not give up on Durbin.  Even if he’s just the next Freddy Sánchez, Freddy did have some good years…

Some guys just can't play under the bright lights of Boston. With the problems the Sox have had scoring runs they can't hide a D only third basement!

[Sthpaw777]

On 5/26/2026 at 11:15 PM, JoeBrady said:

If one were to ask every girl in the country if their SO listened to them, would any guy get a positive?  And if that is the case, is not listening then a negative, or just an unfixable flaw?

Or just an informal survey, has anyone in here NOT been told they don't listen?

This thread has officially gone off the rails…

[Sthpaw777]

On 5/27/2026 at 8:11 AM, Hugh2 said:

The Sox have the 10th hardest schedule the rest of the way,  

After the division leading Braves they travel to Cleveland to take on the Central division leading Guardians (stil typed out Indians first).  

Then we have back to back series away vs. the Rays and the Yankees the top two teams in the A.L.

A west coast trip, then back home to face the Yankees again and another west coast trip. 

This is not a very good team and the schedule isn't going to give them any kind of break coming up.  I think it's very reasonable to assume we are sellers this year.  The only thing stopping us from selling right now is you want to wait until there are more buyers near the deadline.  

Anyone who has value and is on an expiring contract really needs to be moved. 

The guys they absolutey must move. 

Sonny Gray.  He will also come super cheap to any team as STL is paying most of his salary. 

Aroldis Chapman is still pitching like an elite closer, some team will pay an arm and a leg for him. It would be insanely stupid to not trade him at this point. 

Isiah Kiner-Falefa he's been sneakily good this year, not great but not bad a .720 OPS with plus defense is something teams will pay for at the dealine, sure he's not a big bat but there will be teams looking to plug their defense up the middle at the dealine.  he's on a 1 year deal and isn't part of this core, sell. 

Someone they don't have to move but they COULD move is Wilson Contreras who is under contract for one more year, but given the liklihood of a lockout in 2027 and the fact that he will be 35 next year the Sox are probably better off selling him.  He's been hitting well and teams will always pay a premium for hitting at the deadline. 

 

MAYBE,  MAYBE you sell Duran if a team doesn't try to lowball the Sox for him. 

 

 

Every one of them would go if possible

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Behindenemylines said:

Some guys just can't play under the bright lights of Boston. With the problems the Sox have had scoring runs they can't hide a D only third basement!

Where was Pedey after 50 games or so?

[JoeBrady]

On 5/27/2026 at 7:59 AM, mvp 78 said:

Alonso's contract ends before Adames's. Marte is a better player than Adames. Bregman is a better clubhouse guy than anyone else listed. I'm not making a case for Eugenio.

• Adames is a better fit than Alonso, and probably a better player.
• Marte is better, but a lot older, and will cost prospects.
• Adames is a better player than Bregman right now.

[JoeBrady]

On 5/27/2026 at 11:33 AM, mvp 78 said:

Jarren Duran is having his worst season since 2021. Having him go back and forth between bench, DH and LF is a failed plan. It's not working. 

Some guys show up and don't care of they are a SS, 1B, or catcher.  I don't think Duran is one of those guys.  Don't touch him.  Don't even talk to him.  Never even give him a day off.

[JoeBrady]

7 hours ago, drewski6 said:

I think SF would take that trade.  I dont understand why we are looking for trades that involve us getting recent free agents at a discount (the 20m eaten).  Giants seem to want players. RS and their fans seem to want budget and payroll efficiency.

Except in this case, the RS are getting the player, not the Giants.  And the Giants are getting budget and payroll efficiency, not the RS.

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Where was Pedey after 50 games or so?

Duran also couldn't play in the bright lights of Fenway.  Neither could Bogaerts.  Neither could JBJ.  Neither could Lester.  Those four combined for a total 3.3 bWAR in their first 9 combined seasons.

Or maybe it could be that baseball is exceedingly difficult?  Nah....

[moonslav59]

18 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

• Adames is a better fit than Alonso, and probably a better player.
• Marte is better, but a lot older, and will cost prospects.
• Adames is a better player than Bregman right now.

We have so many infield needs other than 1B. As much as I dislike taking on another big contract from a not so young player (soon to be 31) he has hit 30 Hrs in 3 of the last 4 seasons.

If Arias turns out to be the real deal, and Mayer can just hit .725, we could be okay 2B to 3B.

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, JoeBrady said:

Duran also couldn't play in the bright lights of Fenway.  Neither could Bogaerts.  Neither could JBJ.  Neither could Lester.  Those four combined for a total 3.3 bWAR in their first 9 combined seasons.

Or maybe it could be that baseball is exceedingly difficult?  Nah....

And expectations right out of the gate are pretty high for some. We are already hearing "flop, flop, flop." These guys just started in the bigs.

Even someone looking as lost as Durbin could end up being okay. It's only his second season.

Yes, JBJ struggled for I think 2 years. At least Durbin had one decent season to start. (Note: I'm not predicting Durbin to get better.)

 

[mvp 78]

8 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

Duran also couldn't play in the bright lights of Fenway.  Neither could Bogaerts.  Neither could JBJ.  Neither could Lester.  Those four combined for a total 3.3 bWAR in their first 9 combined seasons.

Or maybe it could be that baseball is exceedingly difficult?  Nah....

Xander has a career 870 OPS at Fenway. 

Lester has a 3.59 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 51-30. 

[Old Red]

11 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Where was Pedey after 50 games or so?

You’re trying to compare DUBin to Pedey? Wow!🙈🤭. Talking about grasping at straws.

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, Old Red said:

You’re trying to compare DUBin to Pedey? Wow!🙈🤭. Talking about grasping at straws.

But they both short!

[mvp 78]

After 43 games on 5/31, Marwin Gonzales was only hitting 292/284/576. Just give these guys time.

[Old Red]

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

But they both short!

Yes, but Pedey had a laser show.

[moonslav59]

7 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

But they both short!

Nobody is comparing Dubon to Pedey, except Ole Red.

[Old Red]

11 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Nobody is comparing Dubon to Pedey, except Ole Red.

Nice try.🤭

[notin]

9 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

Duran also couldn't play in the bright lights of Fenway.  Neither could Bogaerts.  Neither could JBJ.  Neither could Lester.  Those four combined for a total 3.3 bWAR in their first 9 combined seasons.

Or maybe it could be that baseball is exceedingly difficult?  Nah....

Exactly.

When Lester came up, I remember some folks being upset the Sox dealt “the good lefty” Kason Gabbard (for Eric Gagne?) instead of the slower starter in Lester.  Clearly they made the right choice.

The Sox do have a very young team right now, with Anthony, Mayer, Durbin, and Narvaez all starters in their second season.  Certainly they assumed some would struggle but not necessarily all of them.  Add to that other starters (Duran, Abreu, Rafaela) who don’t have much more experience.  Basically only Contreras and Story as experienced starters, and both of them at ages where decline sets in.

There was clearly a lot that could go wrong, and I would be surprised if they didn’t expect some of it too.  But they had issues with far too much going wrong.

And even then, they built a strong rotation and a good defense, which can be enough to carry a team a long way.  They had their lifeboat.
 

They just forgot to put a bullpen in that lifeboat…

[notin]

58 minutes ago, Old Red said:

You’re trying to compare DUBin to Pedey? Wow!🙈🤭. Talking about grasping at straws.

Cheap, deflecting answer that skirts the question .

The clear and obvious point was some players start their careers more slowly than others, but it didn’t make them immediate failures.  I’m sure your talk radio shows were calling Pedroia a flop when he was initially called up in 2006…

[mvp 78]

Durbin is 26

Narvaez is 27

They aren't that young. Inexperienced? Maybe. Young? Not really. 

[mvp 78]

Duran has been up since 2021!!!! We have to stop saying things like "he doesn't have that much experience." 

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, notin said:

Cheap, deflecting answer that skirts the question .

The clear and obvious point was some players start their careers more slowly than others, but it didn’t make them immediate failures.  I’m sure your talk radio shows were calling Pedroia a flop when he was initially called up in 2006…

Pedroia was 23 and a rookie. Durbin has already played a full season and is much older. He's also one of the worst hitters in MLB!

[notin]

7 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Duran has been up since 2021!!!! We have to stop saying things like "he doesn't have that much experience." 

He played more games in Worcester in 2021-22 than he did in Boston.  33 games in Boston in 2021 and 58 in 2022.  You really going to argue he was a full time major leaguer in those seasons?

He did play 102 games in Boston in 2023 and hasn’t been demoted to Worcester since…

 

[JoeBrady]

10 minutes ago, notin said:

The clear and obvious point was some players start their careers more slowly than others, but it didn’t make them immediate failures.

It's not 'some', it is most.  Some RS would've traded Trout after his rookie year.  Kyle Tucker had a wRC+ of 28 in his first season.  Swanson had a 84 OPS+ in his first FOUR seasons.  Cal Raleigh had a 46 wRC+ in his first season.  Semien had a 79.  This is standard in BB.  It's a hard game to learn.

[notin]

8 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Pedroia was 23 and a rookie. Durbin has already played a full season and is much older. He's also one of the worst hitters in MLB!

Yes he’s having a terrible season.  No one is arguing that.  And if all he had was 2026, it would look stronger.

But Durbin was good last year, so we do know he has the ability to succeed at some level in MLB, right?

[JoeBrady]

12 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Duran has been up since 2021!!!! We have to stop saying things like "he doesn't have that much experience." 

Did someone actually say that?

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, JoeBrady said:

Did someone actually say that?

Add to that other starters (Duran, Abreu, Rafaela) who don’t have much more experience.  

[notin]

3 minutes ago, notin said:

He played more games in Worcester in 2021-22 than he did in Boston.  33 games in Boston in 2021 and 58 in 2022.  You really going to argue he was a full time major leaguer in those seasons?

He did play 102 games in Boston in 2023 and hasn’t been demoted to Worcester since. There’s a reason he still has 3 years of service time left after this season