Early Trade deadline deals the selling Sox should make

[JoeBrady]

14 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I would not take Joe Ryan, because we'd need to give Early or Tolle just for that piece.

We don't need Buxton

We're making this too complicated.  There is no reason to trade for an SP or a CF.  Just find a good RH DH/LF.  Or a good OBP SS to lead off, if they exist.  Don't worry about extending players.  Most long-term contracts don't work out.  And the big-name players that we want?  Everyone wants them, including their own team.

And in this case, look for teams looking to sell.  MN is ahead of us in the standings.

[moonslav59]

8 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

He does have NTC good point…. You have to think to play LF for the Boston F***ing Red Sox while pushing for postseason. You gotta say yes?? Have WC40 call him and tell him what it’s like out there. 
Bux move would be exactly what the lineup needs, but would definitely change the roles of Yoshida and Duran….  they would need to go. 
 

DH might keep Buxton healthier, but Anthony's health is a concern, too.

[UtahSox]

18 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

We're making this too complicated.  There is no reason to trade for an SP or a CF.  Just find a good RH DH/LF.  Or a good OBP SS to lead off, if they exist.  Don't worry about extending players.  Most long-term contracts don't work out.  And the big-name players that we want?  Everyone wants them, including their own team.

And in this case, look for teams looking to sell.  MN is ahead of us in the standings.

Names on your radar?? I saw some stuff on twitter about Twins might selling anyways. And a lot of Jeffers/ Ryan rumors to Yanks. Just thought I’d put it out there. 

[JoeBrady]

6 hours ago, southpaw777 said:

Seigler was drafted in. 2018 23rd by NYY. He’s a AAAA at this point unless he’s a really late bloomer. Hasn’t done a whole lot the last 9 years since he was drafted.

Just to play devil's advocate, his hitting improved since they gave up the catching experiment.  Between 2024-25, he averaged .254 with 20 HRs and a 136/116 K/W.  I never expect much from career prospects, but someone had mentioned Holt, and I'd be pretty happy with that.

[JoeBrady]

42 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

Names on your radar?? I saw some stuff on twitter about Twins might selling anyways. And a lot of Jeffers/ Ryan rumors to Yanks. Just thought I’d put it out there. 

• KC-Lane Thomas (modest interest)
• LAA-Adell Lefty-masher, with 1.5 years left, 2 HRs in 15 Fenway ABs (moderate interest)
• Cincy-Steer (a lot of interest)
• SF-Arraez-Perfect fit
• BA-Ward-Hitting a little better recently, does well against lefties
• BA-Our old friend Tyler O'Neill.  .876 since he start of June.  Lefty masher.  Good Fenway history.  Will need BA to kick in serious salary.

These include only teams that I deem to be sellers at this point.  That list should enlarge in a couple of weeks.  A lot depends on price.  Thomas and Adell might cost little more than salary relief.  Steer and Arraez will cost us large, but non-premium prospects.  Ward and TON might require a couple of lesser prospect, more quantity than quality.

[moonslav59]

15 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Just to play devil's advocate, his hitting improved since they gave up the catching experiment.  Between 2024-25, he averaged .254 with 20 HRs and a 136/116 K/W.  I never expect much from career prospects, but someone had mentioned Holt, and I'd be pretty happy with that.

Maybe even better than Holt, but he could be much worse, too.

It's 8 years not 9. There was the missed Covid season and a couple short seasons early on.

He just turned 27, so he's entering prime.

He had a decent 2024 season at AA and even better at AAA in 2025. He's improved at the last few seasons. so maybe this is no fluke.

 

[vegasbob]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

DH might keep Buxton healthier, but Anthony's health is a concern, too.

Anthony's two injuries in '25 and now '26 come from swinging a bat which is basically the DH position , so we can't worry about his health overall.

The bigger worry to me is if the transfer down to Ft. Myers for rehab is , in fact, an attitude or willingness to work on the rehab problem.  Is Roman a diva before his time. Sure hope not.

[JoeBrady]

26 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

so maybe this is no fluke.

I know it's impossible to ignore all the extraneous noise, but the peripherals are fine.

• 15/8 K/W is acceptable
• BABIP of .293 is about right
• HR/FB is actually slightly low at 10%
• 88.4 EV (FG differs from BR) is fine
• FB%, glove, and speed are all okay

Basically, I don't see any disqualifiers here (SSS disclosure).

[moonslav59]

59 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

Anthony's two injuries in '25 and now '26 come from swinging a bat which is basically the DH position , so we can't worry about his health overall.

The bigger worry to me is if the transfer down to Ft. Myers for rehab is , in fact, an attitude or willingness to work on the rehab problem.  Is Roman a diva before his time. Sure hope not.

Those injuries don't mean it's the start of a pattern of injuries or only swinging bat related ones.

The move to Ft Myers is concerning.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, JoeBrady said:

I know it's impossible to ignore all the extraneous noise, but the peripherals are fine.

• 15/8 K/W is acceptable
• BABIP of .293 is about right
• HR/FB is actually slightly low at 10%
• 88.4 EV (FG differs from BR) is fine
• FB%, glove, and speed are all okay

Basically, I don't see any disqualifiers here (SSS disclosure).

Certainly the SSS is in play, especially a players first few in his career after a short first season.

He just looks good.

[UtahSox]

1 hour ago, JoeBrady said:

• KC-Lane Thomas (modest interest)
• LAA-Adell Lefty-masher, with 1.5 years left, 2 HRs in 15 Fenway ABs (moderate interest)
• Cincy-Steer (a lot of interest)
• SF-Arraez-Perfect fit
• BA-Ward-Hitting a little better recently, does well against lefties
• BA-Our old friend Tyler O'Neill.  .876 since he start of June.  Lefty masher.  Good Fenway history.  Will need BA to kick in serious salary.

These include only teams that I deem to be sellers at this point.  That list should enlarge in a couple of weeks.  A lot depends on price.  Thomas and Adell might cost little more than salary relief.  Steer and Arraez will cost us large, but non-premium prospects.  Ward and TON might require a couple of lesser prospect, more quantity than quality.

Ward if available is exactly what this team could use at DH OBP% .389. That would work. 
 

im hoping we gas some prospects, and bring in a serious bat to add pop to lineup. I believe you and I have different beliefs in this 2026 team. You might be right…. Guys I think could be had… 

A tier: Neto, Buxton, Goodman, Lindor, Bichette

B tier: M Garcia, Pena, Adames

C Tier: Paredes, Jeffers, Ward, Arraez, Steer, Moniak 

D Tier: Adell, L Thomas, O’Neill, Soler

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

Ward if available is exactly what this team could use at DH OBP% .389. That would work. 
 

im hoping we gas some prospects, and bring in a serious bat to add pop to lineup. I believe you and I have different beliefs in this 2026 team. You might be right…. Guys I think could be had… 

A tier: Neto, Buxton, Goodman, Lindor, Bichette

B tier: M Garcia, Pena, Adames

C Tier: Paredes, Jeffers, Ward, Arraez, Steer, Moniak 

D Tier: Adell, L Thomas, O’Neill, Soler

I'd rather have any tier D instead of Bichette, even if the money was the same.

I don't get all the Bichette fawning.

[southpaw777]

10 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

We're making this too complicated.  There is no reason to trade for an SP or a CF.  Just find a good RH DH/LF.  Or a good OBP SS to lead off, if they exist.  Don't worry about extending players.  Most long-term contracts don't work out.  And the big-name players that we want?  Everyone wants them, including their own team.

And in this case, look for teams looking to sell.  MN is ahead of us in the standings.

We may need an extra dependable arm down the stretch with Tolle and Bennett almost at last years ip totals already,… think Jake Peavey in 2013. Not a Skubal but the next tier.

[southpaw777]

9 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Maybe even better than Holt, but he could be much worse, too.

It's 8 years not 9. There was the missed Covid season and a couple short seasons early on.

He just turned 27, so he's entering prime.

He had a decent 2024 season at AA and even better at AAA in 2025. He's improved at the last few seasons. so maybe this is no fluke.

 

Dude I was a year or so off. The dude is a AAAA player right now. Could he become something more? Probably, but I would guess not much. He’s a good player who’s a replacement guy at 27.

[notin]

8 hours ago, UtahSox said:

Ward if available is exactly what this team could use at DH OBP% .389. That would work. 
 

im hoping we gas some prospects, and bring in a serious bat to add pop to lineup. I believe you and I have different beliefs in this 2026 team. You might be right…. Guys I think could be had… 

A tier: Bichette

B tier: Pena 

C Tier: Paredes, Jeffers, Ward, Arraez, Steer

D Tier: Adell, L Thomas, O’Neill, Soler

Some slight changes, removing the guys going nowhere and Maikel Garcia, whose inclusion confuses me since he’s basically a league-average hitter that got propelled that high by one good season.  His OPS this season to date is only slightly better than Durbin’s entire season, and well below Seigler’s…

[UtahSox]

46 minutes ago, notin said:

Some slight changes, removing the guys going nowhere and Maikel Garcia, whose inclusion confuses me since he’s basically a league-average hitter that got propelled that high by one good season.  His OPS this season to date is only slightly better than Durbin’s entire season, and well below Seigler’s…

Do you think Seigler is sustainable? That’s a question I’ve asked myself a lot. Avg .147 OPS 515 in July

It’s probably because of Mickey Gaspar but I’m just not positive.

[notin]

28 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

Do you think Seigler is sustainable? That’s a question I’ve asked myself a lot. Avg .147 OPS 515 in July

It’s probably because of Mickey Gaspar but I’m just not positive.

Do you think Garcia is?  Seigler’s might fall of, but the Sox do have 3 MI’s in the IL.

Even if Garcia is an upgrade over Seigler, how much of one?

I could see the Sox going for a leadoff-type 2b, but hopefully it’s someone like Matt Shaw (availability in question). 

[JoeBrady]

28 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

Do you think Seigler is sustainable? That’s a question I’ve asked myself a lot. Avg .147 OPS 515 in July

It’s probably because of Mickey Gaspar but I’m just not positive.

I don't go overboard on these guys because it might take a week or two for scouts to get a book on them.  But the difference between June and July is probably mostly related to BABIP (.433 v .143).  Regressing both back to .300, his OPS would look more like .693 for June and .829 for July.  At this sample size, almost anything could make up the difference.

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, southpaw777 said:

We may need an extra dependable arm down the stretch with Tolle and Bennett almost at last years ip totals already,… think Jake Peavey in 2013. Not a Skubal but the next tier.

I've heard Clay Holmes. Maybe we go huge and get Holmes with Lindor.

Someone suggested Bello, KC, Witherspoon, Gonzales & Godbout for just Lindorr.

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, southpaw777 said:

Dude I was a year or so off. The dude is a AAAA player right now. Could he become something more? Probably, but I would guess not much. He’s a good player who’s a replacement guy at 27.

Yes, I said a year off. I also mentioned that it's not really just a year off in terms of seasons, which is a valid point to make. 9 years was really like 6.5 to 7 seasons, which is worth pointing out, right?

[moonslav59]

16 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I don't go overboard on these guys because it might take a week or two for scouts to get a book on them.  But the difference between June and July is probably mostly related to BABIP (.433 v .143).  Regressing both back to .300, his OPS would look more like .693 for June and .829 for July.  At this sample size, almost anything could make up the difference.

Agreed, and the next 3 weeks might not even be enough to judge, but we might know more, especially if he declines.

[mvp 78]

4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Yes, I said a year off. I also mentioned that it's not really just a year off in terms of seasons, which is a valid point to make. 9 years was really like 6.5 to 7 seasons, which is worth pointing out, right?

The biggest point was him being initially developed as a catcher and it slowing his development time. He's been able to hit in AA and AAA the past 3 seasons. Maybe he can be an average to slightly below average bat with a UTIL skillset. If he's a 95 wRC+ guy that can play every IF position and mess around in the OF, that's basically Brock Holt. 

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

The biggest point was him being initially developed as a catcher and it slowing his development time. He's been able to hit in AA and AAA the past 3 seasons. Maybe he can be an average to slightly below average bat with a UTIL skillset. If he's a 95 wRC+ guy that can play every IF position and mess around in the OF, that's basically Brock Holt. 

Agreed. I'm hoping maybe he can do better than 95 wRC+, but I'd bet on the under. (Career going forward.)

[UtahSox]

39 minutes ago, notin said:

Do you think Garcia is?  Seigler’s might fall of, but the Sox do have 3 MI’s in the IL.

Even if Garcia is an upgrade over Seigler, how much of one?

I could see the Sox going for a leadoff-type 2b, but hopefully it’s someone like Matt Shaw (availability in question). 

I personally like Garcia could play multiple positions really good at SS, good glove, had a nagging hand injury at start of may he tried to play through eventually they put him on IL. Team control through 2029,  Had a .784 OPS in April w/ 3 HR’s. 
Last year 800 OPS  doesn’t strike out .350 OBP. I’d definitely put Garcia in at least the same tier as Shaw. I wonder if Wacha and Garcia would be available? 

[southpaw777]

54 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Yes, I said a year off. I also mentioned that it's not really just a year off in terms of seasons, which is a valid point to make. 9 years was really like 6.5 to 7 seasons, which is worth pointing out, right?

Kind of. Usually at 27 the odds are he is mostly what he is. Which was the main point. 6-7 years in pro ball is still a lot. He switched positions, but I still think he’s a AAAA player… I hope he proves me wrong

[JoeBrady]

48 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

The biggest point was him being initially developed as a catcher

I wonder if he can still catch.  He had 1500 innings in the minors.  Having someone with nominal catching skills being a 3rd stringer, adds a tiny bit of value.

[harmony]

12 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

• KC-Lane Thomas (modest interest)
• LAA-Adell Lefty-masher, with 1.5 years left, 2 HRs in 15 Fenway ABs (moderate interest)
• Cincy-Steer (a lot of interest)
• SF-Arraez-Perfect fit
• BA-Ward-Hitting a little better recently, does well against lefties
• BA-Our old friend Tyler O'Neill.  .876 since he start of June.  Lefty masher.  Good Fenway history.  Will need BA to kick in serious salary.

These include only teams that I deem to be sellers at this point.  That list should enlarge in a couple of weeks.  A lot depends on price.  Thomas and Adell might cost little more than salary relief.  Steer and Arraez will cost us large, but non-premium prospects.  Ward and TON might require a couple of lesser prospect, more quantity than quality.

Seattle reportedly is in the market for a righthanded bat but the Mariners nevertheless might be willing to part with the expiring contract of their only 2026 All Star, the righthand-hitting Randy Arozarena.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfc-RBouqMM

 

[notin]

27 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

I personally like Garcia could play multiple positions really good at SS, good glove, had a nagging hand injury at start of may he tried to play through eventually they put him on IL. Team control through 2029,  Had a .784 OPS in April w/ 3 HR’s. 
Last year 800 OPS  doesn’t strike out .350 OBP. I’d definitely put Garcia in at least the same tier as Shaw. I wonder if Wacha and Garcia would be available? 

Well, he’s a good third baseman.  Lesser at 2b and his SS experience is inconsequential. 
 

The ceiling is there.  He was a 6 fWAR player ladt year.  But it’s rare, as in he has no other seasons above 2fWAR. (He should top that mark this year.)

He’s not an awful choice or anything, but if the goal is “better offense” I think other options make more, especially since KC has no reason to move him. I prefer Ward, Jeffers and Peña, for example.  And I think replacing Duran might be more important than replacing Seigler…

[notin]

14 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

DH might keep Buxton healthier, but Anthony's health is a concern, too.

Forget Buxton. He has repeatedly said he has no desire to leave the Twins.  And as he is a 10/5 player, he does get to make that decision…

[mvp 78]

40 minutes ago, notin said:

Well, he’s a good third baseman.  Lesser at 2b and his SS experience is inconsequential. 

MiLB Innings

2b 86

3b 85

SS 3,056