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Posted
2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I'd need to be wow'd to trade Contreras.

I don't think Houck, Crawford or Casas will bring back enough to give up on their upside potential, but I'd listen.

Trading Chapman and or Whitlock would mean we'd need some serios pen building, this winter, and I'm not just talking about making Houck and Crawford pen arms.

Soxprospects.com does put both in the 2027 pen, for what that’s worth..

Posted
4 hours ago, notin said:

Is anyone?

Not me, but I'm starting to climb up onto the fence.

I agree on Chapman. Yes, it opens a new hole for Brez, and as many think, he's an idiot and can't acquire any good players, so why create another mistake ready to happen? (LOL)

Trade Gray, Coulombe, IKF, andoval, if anyone wants him and then Chapman. (Maybe Whitlock & Duran)

2027:

SP: Crochet, Suarez, Tolle, Bennett, Early, Oviedo/Bello/Eyanson/Holobetz/Wehunt/Paez

RP: _____, Whitlock, Houck, Crawford, Slaten, Moran, Weissert, Guerrero/Kelly/Watson/Samaniego/Uberstine

C: ______, Narvaez/Wong/Jo Garcia

1B: Contreras, Romy/Casas/Brannon

2B: ______, Romy/Mayer/Seigler/Sogard

3B: Durbin, Mayer/Eaton/Monasterio

SS: ______, Story/Mayer/Cheng/Arias

LF/DH: ______ & Anthony, Yoshida

CF: Rafaela, Duran/Ward

RF: Abreu, Campbell

 

Posted
On 5/23/2026 at 12:28 PM, harmony said:

Any interest in righthand-hitting outfielder Rob Refsnyder, who posted an OPS+ of 125 in 936 plate appearances with the Red Sox 2022-25?

The Seattle Mariners could make Refsnyder expendable.😉

Any trade with Seattle has to be for some of their incredible prospects. 
 

Why not wait for Seattle to DFA refsynder 

Posted

Barring another extremely significant losing streak, absolutely no way Breslow is selling now.

This leads to new questions about what (you think) his direction should be, or at least that you’d like to see.

Posted
7 minutes ago, notin said:

Barring another extremely significant losing streak, absolutely no way Breslow is selling now.

This leads to new questions about what (you think) his direction should be, or at least that you’d like to see.

Mostly the same as always.  I wouldn't object to adding another RP, but the BP is doing pretty well.  I'd have my eye on a RH slugger to platoon with Yoshida, but I can wait.  I'm still looking for Adell.

Posted
4 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Mostly the same as always.  I wouldn't object to adding another RP, but the BP is doing pretty well.  I'd have my eye on a RH slugger to platoon with Yoshida, but I can wait.  I'm still looking for Adell.

Spencer Steer?

Posted
34 minutes ago, notin said:

Spencer Steer?

I like him, but he's a Cincy regular with 2+ years left.  If Cincy decides to call it a day (8 back of WC-3), he could be attainable, but it'll cost us a good bit more than lottery tickets.  Certainly more diverse than Adell.

Posted
51 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I like him, but he's a Cincy regular with 2+ years left.  If Cincy decides to call it a day (8 back of WC-3), he could be attainable, but it'll cost us a good bit more than lottery tickets.  Certainly more diverse than Adell.

Cincinnati can build a lineup without Steer, who has no regular position.  But some of that will be traded this year or depart as a free agent (Suarez, Lowe).  
 

Of course at some point, Romy Gonzalez becomes a RHH platoon option for DH. If the Sox want to add a bat, it seems like LF is the best spot at least until Roman returns.  Other options include SS, at least until Story returns, and catcher, which is very unlikely since most teams don’t bring in new catchers mid-season.  (Although Sean Murphy is likely available and can be a RHH DH.)

Posted

I don't think Brez parts with any highly regarded pitcher, and that is where our strength is, as well as depth. We've already seen that great depth can still end up necessitating pen games and starts by pitchers like Rivera.

I don't think Brez trades any top everyday prospects like 1 Arias, 5 Gonzales or 8 Godbout. We might end up needed Arias and or Godbout before we know it, and a potential big bat like Gonzales should be cherished. #6 Azocar, #7 Primera & #11 Soto are too far away to think trading them might hurt, but it seems teams dont overpay for faraway prospects anymore.

IMO, that leaves prospects like maybe 13 Holobetz, 14 Cespedes, 17 Wehunt, 19 Uberstine, 20 Paez, 21 Mullins, GRod or Heyman, 24 Bastardo and 30 Dylan Brown as ones we might trade for a rental bat or pen arm.

I suppose the highest we mit o would be Witherspoon or Phillips. Valera might return something very nice. We wont trade Eyanson and Delzine is too far away.

I've heard some say that because so many teams will be "buying," we might see more ML player for ML player deals tan normal deadlines, as teams seek to trade from strength to fill a bigger need.

Nobody wants Story, Yosida or Duran, so it's doubtful any are dealt. I doubt we trade Narvaez, and the way he looks at bat would frighten a minor league manager away. If IKF gets healthy, wat would he bring back? I guess we could offer Monasterio, but again, for what?

I just don't see Brez getting bold at this deadline, and I'm not sure I want to see him trade top prospects. It would be easier for Brez, if we were sellers.

Posted

Are they ready to give up their top guys to get the players, rental or not, that can put them in a position of legit WS contender? I wouldn’t. Not this year. Marginal players won’t push this team. They need legit Power to go with Contreras and maybe even a starter due to Tolle close to his IP last year already@120ip… He’s got 15ip in AAA as well as his 84-85ip in Boston so far. . Bennett will be at his inning limit before the season is over as well. If we do go for it we should get a starter Like the Jake Peavy deal back in the day. Someone to help get us through September. I’m not sure who’s available for HR power, but I’m sure it’ll cost a lot.
Crochet and an early have not thrown a baseball yet. How bad is Suarez’ groin? Will All three come back firing on all cylinders? We will NEED all three along with Gray to be taken seriously. The other two could hit their walls anytime over the next month or two.

im waiting to change my mind on being buyers. To me, we should still be sellers. I’m not convinced this is our year to sell the farm to go for it. 

definitely Chapman and  Gray. Maybe a Guerrero IKF too.

 

Posted

Buy Buy Buy.....if not now then when do we stretch the kids out? Anthony and Crochet back. Arraez should be easy to get. Go hard for Trout. Don't give up the hot prospects but Duran, Mayer, Bello should get some return from the Giants or Angels. If Trout is willing the angels should be happy to give up the contract that he is owed.

After today's game, it is Karma.

Posted
6 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I don't think Brez parts with any highly regarded pitcher, and that is where our strength is, as well as depth. We've already seen that great depth can still end up necessitating pen games and starts by pitchers like Rivera.

I don't think Brez trades any top everyday prospects like 1 Arias, 5 Gonzales or 8 Godbout. We might end up needed Arias and or Godbout before we know it, and a potential big bat like Gonzales should be cherished. #6 Azocar, #7 Primera & #11 Soto are too far away to think trading them might hurt, but it seems teams dont overpay for faraway prospects anymore.

IMO, that leaves prospects like maybe 13 Holobetz, 14 Cespedes, 17 Wehunt, 19 Uberstine, 20 Paez, 21 Mullins, GRod or Heyman, 24 Bastardo and 30 Dylan Brown as ones we might trade for a rental bat or pen arm.

I suppose the highest we mit o would be Witherspoon or Phillips. Valera might return something very nice. We wont trade Eyanson and Delzine is too far away.

I've heard some say that because so many teams will be "buying," we might see more ML player for ML player deals tan normal deadlines, as teams seek to trade from strength to fill a bigger need.

Nobody wants Story, Yosida or Duran, so it's doubtful any are dealt. I doubt we trade Narvaez, and the way he looks at bat would frighten a minor league manager away. If IKF gets healthy, wat would he bring back? I guess we could offer Monasterio, but again, for what?

I just don't see Brez getting bold at this deadline, and I'm not sure I want to see him trade top prospects. It would be easier for Brez, if we were sellers.

If they trade from the set of Bleis, Bannon, Garcia, Hickey, Paez or Romero, I won’t mind.  Assuming it’s for someone decent…

Posted
Just now, moonslav59 said:

Those are even lower than the ones I suggeted.

I’m not on board with buying yet.  Baby steps…

Posted
Just now, notin said:

I’m not on board with buying yet.  Baby steps…

I'm not either. I suggested Brez might part with#13 Holobetz and  #14 Cespedes or lower.

You are in the under 30 range.

Posted
50 minutes ago, notin said:

If they trade from the set of Bleis, Bannon, Garcia, Hickey, Paez or Romero, I won’t mind.  Assuming it’s for someone decent…

I doubt you're getting anyone for them.

Posted
9 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I doubt you're getting anyone for them.

Maybe a useful but oversized contract? 
 

It’s basically the Rule 5 eligible guys, which is the same list Breslow trades from…

Posted
1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

I'm not either. I suggested Brez might part with#13 Holobetz and  #14 Cespedes or lower.

You are in the under 30 range.

Romero is 16, Wehunt is 17 and Paez is 20…

Posted
33 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I doubt you're getting anyone for them.

I mentioned the 3 and 4 mid to lower level prospect trades for Luis Garcia and Danny Jansen trades as the types we might see, this deadline.

I'm thinking #13 and over....

Holobetz, Cespedes or Romero

Wehunt, Paez or Uberstine

Mullins, Bastardo or Monegro

Gerardo Rodriguez or Luke Heyman

Winnay or Mason White

Brannon or Jo Garcia

Castro or Bleis

We should not expect great returns. We should not expect higher prospects traded, either, but maybe the pressure builds.

The days of Aldo Ramirez, who I think was our #8 prospect, for Schwarber are over.Would we trade ...

3 Witherspoon?

5 Gonzales?

6 Azocar?

8 Godbout

9 Valera

12 Phillips (He is borderline for my first list.)

I skipped the really young prospects, as they are no longer valued highly in trades.

Posted
1 hour ago, notin said:

Maybe a useful but oversized contract? 
 

It’s basically the Rule 5 eligible guys, which is the same list Breslow trades from…

I agree that we need to divest the Rule 5 guys for whatever we can get.

Posted
34 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I agree that we need to divest the Rule 5 guys for whatever we can get.

I'm not sure we have a 40 man roster crunch, this winter involving R5 prospects, but sure.

Posted
14 hours ago, JAG said:

Buy Buy Buy.....if not now then when do we stretch the kids out? Anthony and Crochet back. Arraez should be easy to get. Go hard for Trout. Don't give up the hot prospects but Duran, Mayer, Bello should get some return from the Giants or Angels. If Trout is willing the angels should be happy to give up the contract that he is owed.

After today's game, it is Karma.

Why so excited about Roman Anthony when he hasn’t done much in MLB yet? I mean, I get it to a point, but To expect him come back and be some sort of offensive threat is a little premature if you ansk me.  He was batting 200 when he got hurt. crochet hasn’t even thrown a baseball yet. Neither has Connolly early. How is Suarez‘s groin? Do you expect them to come back soon and be at the top of their game?  Bennett will NOT be a factor due to IP limits. Tolle is almost at his IP from last year. 10 more ip and he’s there, so. I’m guessing he’ll be gassed bye mid September. if they do what they did last night and only throw him 3-4ip and mix him with Bello? Maybe. we might need another starter down the stretch like we did with Peavey for Iggy trade. Also we need a bat that will make a difference. Not some middling player just to say we got someone. If we think we’re getting these pieces by giving up our crap then think again. If We truly wanna have a team that can legitimately compete for a World Series say goodbye to the top few prospects. Not sure we’re there this year.

we played a decimated Yankees team, Colorado, LAA, NYM…it wasn’t like we played the cubbies dodgers or brewers. It was nice to see but let’s not fool ourselves. We still have some important pieces needed and a bunch still hurt

Posted

Getting antsy. The winning streak and pitching has the Sox legitimately back in this, but we all know there's no way they can keep it up through the entire second half without better hitting.

Boston was as bad as ever with RISP in NY this weekend. The reason the Red Sox have scored enough these past few weeks is they're finally doing what most modern teams do to win: hit a couple home runs per game with men on base.

Breslow doesn't need to wait to see if it will continue before he decides to buy or sell-- it won't, so he owes it to the team and the fans to get another power bat ASAP to help determine direction.

A few trade targets and their ages, guys on contracts teams might not mind parting with for a promising pitching prospect (or two):

Christian Walker, 35 and Brian Reynolds 31 -- basically a DH and an outfielder. Younger guys who would cost more: Casey Schmidt, 27, outfielder, and Spencer Steer, 28, infielder/outfielder. Old reliable: Josh Bell, 93.

 

 

 

walker 35 schmidt 27 steer 28 reynolds 31 josh bell 93

Posted
On 7/10/2026 at 8:10 PM, notin said:

Soxprospects.com does put both in the 2027 pen, for what that’s worth..

I don't think it means much, they're pretty much just putting the players on team control there. 

Crochet/Bello/Suarez/Early/Tolle/Bennett/Crawford/Houck/Oviedo + are all under team control for next year.  I think they're more projecting them to be on the roster.  Who may actually be in the pen is much much more fluid.  

Posted

If I'm the Sox brass I'm looking at this homestand vs. the A.L. East coming out of the all star break.  If they go 5-4 or better in that stretch then with few caveats I'd be buying. 

Posted
16 hours ago, JAG said:

Buy Buy Buy.....if not now then when do we stretch the kids out? Anthony and Crochet back. Arraez should be easy to get. Go hard for Trout. Don't give up the hot prospects but Duran, Mayer, Bello should get some return from the Giants or Angels. If Trout is willing the angels should be happy to give up the contract that he is owed.

After today's game, it is Karma.

SF wants to extend Arraez. Crochet and Anthony don't have a timetable for a return.

Don't really know about Early. With the added innings, are you not concerned about future injuries to Tolle or Bennett? 

Duran, Mayer and Bello all saw their stock plummet. They wouldn't fetch much at this point. 

Trout's contract would be a nightmare. The reason you sign a long term guy like Trout is for the first few seasons, not to get him for the back half of the contract. 

Posted
13 hours ago, notin said:

If they trade from the set of Bleis, Bannon, Garcia, Hickey, Paez or Romero, I won’t mind.  Assuming it’s for someone decent…

I don't think those names fetch anything interesting TBH. 

Posted
12 hours ago, notin said:

Romero is 16, Wehunt is 17 and Paez is 20…

Sox system is notably weaker than it has been. Being a top 20 guy doesn't mean much. 

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