Red Sox front office did something right. They got rid of Devers.

[Old Red]

15 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Yes, All lies.

What's funniest is when we catch you in lies, which is very often, you resort to deflections and your standby respone: "You overanalyze everything."

You don't even know what nonsense means.

I'll do this site a favor and stop responding to your lies, stalking and total BS.

You still haven’t said what was a lie, and how it was a lie. 🤔. As for the rest.👍👏👋

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Of course, the Giants would have to eat more spinach than Popeye to get someone to take the Big Puppy off their hands

I was happy he got traded, but I don't dislike the guy.  It was always about him being a good, not great, DH at a premium price tag.  There is no possible fit for him with the RS, even if we included Yoshida in the trade, but I'd take him back if they could figure it out.

Just for fun, Devers + Eldridge + 'some' $$$ for Yoshida + Durbin + a good, non-premium prospect.  All it would take is for Posey to acknowledge that maybe it wasn't a great move, and that maybe the SFG need to start looking forward to the future.

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

I was happy he got traded, but I don't dislike the guy.  It was always about him being a good, not great, DH at a premium price tag.  There is no possible fit for him with the RS, even if we included Yoshida in the trade, but I'd take him back if they could figure it out.

Just for fun, Devers + Eldridge + 'some' $$$ for Yoshida + Durbin + a good, non-premium prospect.  All it would take is for Posey to acknowledge that maybe it wasn't a great move, and that maybe the SFG need to start looking forward to the future.

I still think they should have tried Devers at 1B years ago, but who knows?

It looks like dumping him was the for the best, and the timing was not great, but was better than waiting longer.

[Old Red]

21 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I still think they should have tried Devers at 1B years ago, but who knows?

It looks like dumping him was the for the best, and the timing was not great, but was better than waiting longer.

Once again Casas was the planned 1B, and I don’t think the Red Sox brass at the time saw Raffy’s D at 3B as a big problem like you, and others did thus Bloom telling Raffy he be the 3B for the foreseeable future.

[Deja Doh]

Devers should never been given that contract.  He was not a star, he was an average to good player, and not good with the community.

The Giants are referring to him as the Reverse Panda and that the Red Sox have gotten revenge for the Pablo Sandoval.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2026/05/01/kurtenbach-rafael-devers-is-the-reverse-panda-and-theres-little-reason-to-believe-thatll-change/

[moonslav59]

"Reverse Panda" is a good one.

[notin]

1 hour ago, Old Red said:

Once again Casas was the planned 1B, and I don’t think the Red Sox brass at the time saw Raffy’s D at 3B as a big problem like you, and others did thus Bloom telling Raffy he be the 3B for the foreseeable future.

Actually it does seem like others saw it as a problem.  If no one did, Bloom wouldn’t have had to make that promise that Devers would get to stay at 3b.

And if they didn’t see his defense as an issue, thats a bigger deal…

[moonslav59]

59 minutes ago, notin said:

Actually it does seem like others saw it as a problem.  If no one did, Bloom wouldn’t have had to make that promise that Devers would get to stay at 3b.

And if they didn’t see his defense as an issue, thats a bigger deal…

Apparently Devers thought he was good on defense, but that is probably common among even the worst of the worst.

I know we had Casas at 1B, before we knew he couldn't stay healthy, but we also knew he was better as a DH.

This brings us back to the cog in the wheel: Yoshida at DH and only DH and at $18M per.

[Nick]

I can admit that I bail on Red Sox from time to time but I still look for something I can enjoy.

This year it's our 3 rookie starting pitchers. I also think Gray and Suarez will be fine as long as they stay healthy.

I am very down on Whitlock and Bello right now and Anthony too for his slow start. I can't wait until 2028 not to see Story and Yoshida.

[mvp 78]

15 minutes ago, Nick said:

I can admit that I bail on Red Sox from time to time but I still look for something I can enjoy.

This year it's our 3 rookie starting pitchers. I also think Gray and Suarez will be fine as long as they stay healthy.

I am very down on Whitlock and Bello right now and Anthony too for his slow start. I can't wait until 2028 not to see Story and Yoshida.

The closer they get to the end of the year, the more likely they can eat one or more of the underwater contracts. If they are out of it at the deadline, Story and Masa are both gone IMO.

[moonslav59]

9 minutes ago, Nick said:

I can admit that I bail on Red Sox from time to time but I still look for something I can enjoy.

This year it's our 3 rookie starting pitchers. I also think Gray and Suarez will be fine as long as they stay healthy.

I am very down on Whitlock and Bello right now and Anthony too for his slow start. I can't wait until 2028 not to see Story and Yoshida.

I still watch every pitch of every game, even the year I "bailed."

Contreras has been fun to watch.

Rafaela has stayed pretty steady for 5-6 weeks, now.

Suarez and the rookie starters have been exciting to watch. I'm hoping Samaniego & Moran can step up to fill some pen voids.

[notin]

35 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

The closer they get to the end of the year, the more likely they can eat one or more of the underwater contracts. If they are out of it at the deadline, Story and Masa are both gone IMO.

Think they DFA and walk away from them?

Or will one of them pull a gun on IKF?

[moonslav59]

14 minutes ago, notin said:

Think they DFA and walk away from them?

Or will one of them pull a gun on IKF?

Think pay 80-90% of their contract or throw in a mid level prospect?

IKF might be wanted by someone for half his remaining $2M (end of July)

Gray might be the biggest prize.

The 1.5 to 2.5 year players may be in question and more sought after.

Chapman might bring back a nice return. (He has a 2027 option.)

Contreras has 1 more year plus an option for 2028.

Yoshida will have one more year left ($18M + $6M owed for '26)

Houck has little value until he proves he's back (one more year)

Whitlock has 2 options left, but is not looking good, so far.

Duran, Crawford, Casas, Romy & Wong have 2 arbs left, but the value might not be there for any of them.

[JoeBrady]

4 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I still think they should have tried Devers at 1B years ago, but who knows?

It looks like dumping him was the for the best, and the timing was not great, but was better than waiting longer.

I intended on him playing 3B instead of Durbin.

[JoeBrady]

3 hours ago, notin said:

Actually it does seem like others saw it as a problem.  If no one did, Bloom wouldn’t have had to make that promise that Devers would get to stay at 3b.

And if they didn’t see his defense as an issue, thats a bigger deal…

Like everything else, it depends on how much defensive weakness you are willing to put up with in exchange for the offense.

[moonslav59]

If Casas wasn't about the worst defensive 1Bman in baseball, I could see moving Devers to DH, but I can't see keeping him at 3B for one more minute.

Just my opiunion.

[Kimmi]

On 5/8/2026 at 3:18 PM, Nick said:

I can admit that I bail on Red Sox from time to time but I still look for something I can enjoy.

This year it's our 3 rookie starting pitchers. I also think Gray and Suarez will be fine as long as they stay healthy.

I am very down on Whitlock and Bello right now and Anthony too for his slow start. I can't wait until 2028 not to see Story and Yoshida.

I'm a big fan of Story's, but I tell you, when he is going bad, it's really bad.  Durbin has also been disappointing so far, but at least he's been good on defense.

[Kimmi]

On 5/8/2026 at 10:51 PM, moonslav59 said:

If Casas wasn't about the worst defensive 1Bman in baseball, I could see moving Devers to DH, but I can't see keeping him at 3B for one more minute.

Just my opiunion.

I really didn't have any problems with keeping Devers at 3B and playing Bregman at 2B.  That said, I wouldn't want Devers back, even if the Giants ate a big chunk of his contract.  He lost me when he put himself before the team.

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, Kimmi said:

I really didn't have any problems with keeping Devers at 3B and playing Bregman at 2B.  That said, I wouldn't want Devers back, even if the Giants ate a big chunk of his contract.  He lost me when he put himself before the team.

That's the worst corner infield defense in MLB history....

Casas & Devers

[Kimmi]

6 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

That's the worst corner infield defense in MLB history....

Casas & Devers

No doubt it probably would have been bad.  But the middle infield defense (namely 2nd base) would have been much better than what we had.

[moonslav59]

4 hours ago, Kimmi said:

No doubt it probably would have been bad.  But the middle infield defense (namely 2nd base) would have been much better than what we had.

I get that but Breggie is better at 3B, Devers is better at 1B, Casas is better at 1B and Story was better at 2B. (Mayer SS?)

[mvp 78]

15 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

That's the worst corner infield defense in MLB history....

Casas & Devers

It would have solved itself quickly with Casas getting injured. 

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It would have solved itself quickly with Casas getting injured. 

True, but that should have been the plan.

Casas injury> Yoshida DH.

[Old Red]

On 5/8/2026 at 10:51 PM, moonslav59 said:

If Casas wasn't about the worst defensive 1Bman in baseball, I could see moving Devers to DH, but I can't see keeping him at 3B for one more minute.

Just my opiunion.

I don’t think there was ever any plan to move Raffy to 1B, or Casas to DH when Raffy was signed . Casas was the 1B, and Raffy was the 3B for better or worse in the eyes of Bloom, and Cora, and still in Cora’s when Bloom left IMO.

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I don’t think there was ever any plan to move Raffy to 1B, or Casas to DH when Raffy was signed . Casas was the 1B, and Raffy was the 3B for better or worse in the eyes of Bloom, and Cora, and still in Cora’s when Bloom left IMO.

Bloom knew he was out of there. He could tell Raffy whatever he wanted and that it wouldn't matter because the blowback wouldn't hit Bloom. He'd be elsewhere. 

[Old Red]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

Bloom knew he was out of there. He could tell Raffy whatever he wanted and that it wouldn't matter because the blowback wouldn't hit Bloom. He'd be elsewhere. 

I get that, but I don’t think Cora would have made any moving around any positions on his own.

[mvp 78]

5 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I get that, but I don’t think Cora would have made any moving around any positions on his own.

Cora was definitely not moving any veterans off their spots. No way. 

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Cora was definitely not moving any veterans off their spots. No way. 

Yup. 

I'm hopeful with Cora gone, maybe moving Story off SS has a slightly better chance at happening a bit sooner.

[Old Red]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Cora was definitely not moving any veterans off their spots. No way. 

Cora’s gone now, and it’s a wait and see with Story.

[notin]

On 5/8/2026 at 4:06 PM, JoeBrady said:

Like everything else, it depends on how much defensive weakness you are willing to put up with in exchange for the offense.

But there’s no point in putting up with a league-worst defensive 3b while the much easier 1b is being manned by stopgap players…