Red Sox Ace Garrett Crochet Heads To Injured List With Shoulder Inflammation

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I suggested numerous Neto trades, a few months back. I think the Angels are asking too much.

Mayer, Witherspoon and Bennett? Mayer, Eyanson and Ziehl? Mayer and Duran? 

[moonslav59]

15 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

Ok Neto (AFV = 90)for say Marcelo Mayer, Dorian Soto, and Juan Valera? 
 

here is my trade idea:( I believe is a wild card team w/ chance to do damage in postseason)

LF Duran

2B Marte (same package as your Neto maybe less)

1b Contreras

DH Anthony

SS Adames (AFV=111)

RF Abreu

3b Sogard/ Romy Gonzalez 

C Gaspar/ Wong (trade Narvaez)

CF Rafaela

 

I'd keep Narvaez over 10 Wongs.

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Mayer, Witherspoon and Bennett? Mayer, Eyanson and Ziehl? Mayer and Duran? 

Mayer Duran looks best, to me, but if this is being done to make a push for this year, it won't happen.

[mvp 78]

20 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

Ok Neto (AFV = 90)for say Marcelo Mayer, Dorian Soto, and Juan Valera? 
 

here is my trade idea:( I believe is a wild card team w/ chance to do damage in postseason)

LF Duran

2B Marte (same package as your Neto maybe less)

1b Contreras

DH Anthony

SS Adames (AFV=111)

RF Abreu

3b Sogard/ Romy Gonzalez 

C Gaspar/ Wong (trade Narvaez)

CF Rafaela

 

I'd smash that Neto trade. I don't think AZ does that Marte trade in season. I like Marte and think he can transition off 1b in two years if he needs to and still be a big time hitter. He's a guy who I think will still hit a bit as he ages.

I wouldn't trade Narvaez. He's cheap and has a great glove. Lots of value even at a backup role. Not sure why everyone is down on him this year.

Also, Rafaela has been much better than a #9 hitter so far.  

[UtahSox]

9 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Mayer Duran looks best, to me, but if this is being done to make a push for this year, it won't happen.

Agree not a team that makes postseason but I like this both short and long term.

[UtahSox]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I'd smash that Neto trade. I don't think AZ does that Marte trade in season. I like Marte and think he can transition off 1b in two years if he needs to and still be a big time hitter. He's a guy who I think will still hit a bit as he ages.

I wouldn't trade Narvaez. He's cheap and has a great glove. Lots of value even at a backup role. Not sure why everyone is down on him this year.

Also, Rafaela has been much better than a #9 hitter so far.  

Narvaez cuz his trade value is higher than his WAR IMO. 
Rafaela batting 9 cuz we’d finally have a lineup teams would fear. 
 

@Moon if we were finally willing to dangle M Mayer they might take it. They aren’t going anywhere this year anyway. 

[moonslav59]

Rafaela has shown improvement for a few years in a row. 

BB%

2.6 in '24

4.8 in '25

6.1 in '26, so far.

K%

24% '23-'25

21% in 2026

OBP

.284 before '26

.350 in 2026

SLG

.401 pre 2026

.441 in 2026

He will probably have a noticeable slump at some point, and our resident cynic will spring to life about it, but the guy is getting better and is just 25.

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

Rafaela has shown improvement for a few years in a row. 

BB%

2.6 in '24

4.8 in '25

6.1 in '26, so far.

K%

24% '23-'25

21% in 2026

OBP

.284 before '26

.350 in 2026

SLG

.401 pre 2026

.441 in 2026

He will probably have a noticeable slump at some point, and our resident cynic will spring to life about it, but the guy is getting better and is just 25.

Last year he slumped once they put him in the IF. Just try not doing that again and see what happens? 

[moonslav59]

Just now, UtahSox said:

Narvaez cuz his trade value is higher than his WAR IMO. 
Rafaela batting 9 cuz we’d finally have a lineup teams would fear. 
 

@Moon if we were finally willing to dangle M Mayer they might take it. They aren’t going anywhere this year anyway. 

I was against Mayer earlier, because we'd still need another infielder. With Story out, we'd need two more besides Adames, Neto or KMarte.

I'm okay trading prospects for longer term players, and Neto is the youngest of this group, so I'd focus on him.

[moonslav59]

Just now, mvp 78 said:

Last year he slumped once they put him in the IF. Just try not doing that again and see what happens? 

Good point.

Our infield woes continue, so I fear a repeat.

[mvp 78]

4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I was against Mayer earlier, because we'd still need another infielder. With Story out, we'd need two more besides Adames, Neto or KMarte.

I'm okay trading prospects for longer term players, and Neto is the youngest of this group, so I'd focus on him.

I think any trade you do is mindful of next season as well. I'd trade for one big bat IFer and you probably need to deal Mayer to do so. I think Arias is probably in the conversation for a promotion midseason next year, so you really need MAYBE one big bat and another. However, I think it's fine if you have one IF position where you can throw Durbin/Sogard at and save money for elsewhere (DH). I think the Sox need to clear Duran/Masa/Story off the roster and add a RHB for DH. Taylor Ward? Ward has struggled hitting at Camden Yards, but is still mashing Away (858 OPS). Seiya Suzuki? Good Pull AIR%. Christian Walker trade? 

[moonslav59]

11 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

 Christian Walker trade? 

Sure, if they take Masa.

[mvp 78]

17 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Sure, if they take Masa.

Walker is actually a good fit for Fenway.

[notin]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

I'd keep Narvaez over 10 Wongs.

Narvaez and the 10 Wongs was a heckuva indie band back in the day…

[notin]

24 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Walker is actually a good fit for Fenway.

A year too late.  Last year Houston might have been more eager…

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, notin said:

A year too late.  Last year Houston might have been more eager…

They may be more eager now that they are 7 games under .500 rather than in a WC race. 

[drewski6]

6 hours ago, notin said:

They should have never bothered with AGon.  Just extend Beltre and keep Youk at 1b…

Where was VMArt playing? How did he fit in?

[drewski6]

6 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Webster and De La Rosa were legit prospects at the time. 

I remember falling in and out of love with Webster cuz he had a 99 mph sinkerball.  

[drewski6]

2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Walker is actually a good fit for Fenway.

Wait, we're buying now?

[UtahSox]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

Wait, we're buying now?

We have no confidence in Breslow selling and anyone developing offensively… so yeah it’s pretty much unanimous over here. We are buying. 😂

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Walker is actually a good fit for Fenway.

Hitting wise, yes.

Our DH sucks, so there, too, although he may be one of the few 1Bman better on D than Willson.

Masa & Phillips...?

[Behindenemylines]

The time the big guy gets back the Sox will be dead and buried for the Summer of 2026!

[JoeBrady]

On 5/26/2026 at 11:47 PM, vegasbob said:

About as useless a stat as there is as long as he cannot play

It's a good stat if someone says "NOman Anthony hasn’t hit much of anything, and did not live up to all his hype, and expectations so far"

[JoeBrady]

On 5/27/2026 at 8:26 AM, mvp 78 said:

Trading legit prospects, which is what SF would want, for guys that were just FA's is a ridiculous way to do business. You could have had them a few offseasons ago if you wanted them! Why now? Because you're desperate? It'd be one of the dumbest decisions the Sox could ever do. 

No one is suggesting trading real prospects for him.  The most SF would get is some salary relief.

[JoeBrady]

On 5/27/2026 at 9:57 AM, notin said:

And a lot of his hype did come from his ability to draw walks.  That was exactly why Cora batted him leadoff…

A couple of days ago, fans were clamoring for the heads of Duran and IKF.  Boston is the place where SSS were invented.

[Old Red]

6 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

It's a good stat if someone says "NOman Anthony hasn’t hit much of anything, and did not live up to all his hype, and expectations so far"

Except 1 HR, and 4 RBI speaks for itself, and why little Anthony was called a flop so far this year on Boston TV.

[JoeBrady]

On 5/27/2026 at 10:56 AM, notin said:

The problem with trades like this is 3 years from now, we will be hoping to deal off Adames and Chapman for some other longer, worse deal some team wants out of.  Not to mention that move looks really bad for SF on the PR front.

The idea is more along the lines of figuring out what you would sign Adames for if he were a FA today.  He has 3.5 decent seasons left, so ideally maybe you'd give him $135M/6.  SF would have to absorb $30M or thereabouts.  You won't like the contract in 3 years, but you have to weigh that against not liking our roster for the next 2-3 years.

[JoeBrady]

14 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

This isn't true. I think most of us BOS fans wanted to keep Beltre around and were upset when he left. 

The Adames risk isn't worth it. Adames and Beltre aren't similar risks IMO. 

Most RS fans were upset when we picked him up.

[JoeBrady]

10 hours ago, UtahSox said:

now the big assumption I’m making is the Giants look in totality and the Devers , Adames, Chapman contracts and say “ well this isn’t working now, let alone in 2029 we need to shed some payroll”

The biggest impediment is having Posey admit it.  No GM wants to eat money on contracts he just signed.  But a good executive will recognize a bad situation and move to rectify it, even if it means a little embarrassment.

[notin]

3 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

The biggest impediment is having Posey admit it.  No GM wants to eat money on contracts he just signed.  But a good executive will recognize a bad situation and move to rectify it, even if it means a little embarrassment.

I think that attitude is surprisingly common among MLB executives…