Tigers (Skubal) vs Red Sox (Bello): 4/18/26, 4:10pm

[mvp 78]

4 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

My feelings exactly.

The Butch Hobson Sox were pathetic offensively.

[mvp 78]

Bruh

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

8 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

93-94 Red Sox

I did some quick research and those were weak offensive years. But they did have Vaughn, Valentin and Greenwell. This current lineup has no one right now close to those 3.

Btw, the 1994 season was shortened to 115 games.

 

 

[Tedballgame]

At this point, this team is not worth watching and wasting 3 hours of life. They are flat and not a talented team. They have the personality of the manager. No fire or desire to be better. Breslow and ownership are just going through the motions. I can't believe the fans will continue to show up at Fenway to support this product.

[Tedballgame]

Just now, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

I did some quick research and those were weak offensive years. But they did have Vaughn, Valentin and Greenwell. This current lineup has no one right now close to those 3.

Btw, the 1994 season was shortened to 115 games.

 

 

Those 3 guys were better than anybody the Sox have playing now.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

9 minutes ago, Tedballgame said:

Those 3 guys were better than anybody the Sox have playing now.

Mo Vaughn was a great Red Sox. In his 8 seasons with the SOX he had an OPS of .936.

[Old Red]

11 minutes ago, Tedballgame said:

At this point, this team is not worth watching and wasting 3 hours of life. They are flat and not a talented team. They have the personality of the manager. No fire or desire to be better. Breslow and ownership are just going through the motions. I can't believe the fans will continue to show up at Fenway to support this product.

Luckily, and deservedly so for the Red Sox they are on the back burner of Boston sports right now. The Celtics, and B’s start their postseason tomorrow, and the NFL draft is next week for the Pats.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

28 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

The Butch Hobson Sox were pathetic offensively.

I remember the season Hobson was batting 9th in the Sox lineup and still had over 100 RBI.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

48 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Does anyone here ever remember a weaker Sox offense than this current one?

2025 Tame Card Series in the Bronx

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

4 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

I remember the season Hobson was batting 9th in the Sox lineup and still had over 100 RBI.

I also remember the '84 season when all 3 SOX OF's, Rice, Armas and Evans all had over 100 RBI.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Tomorrow someone stupid that's me will propose yet another new batting order -- but in the end, it will always be from the same roster.

And all summer long, the major league Red Sox will be facing "tough pitchers."

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Does anyone here ever remember a weaker Sox offense than this current one?

Maybe the one last October?

[Oscars]

If the Sox continue to flounder, and Bello’s continues with his poor outings, he may start feeling a little nervous about his place in the rotation ….

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

34 minutes ago, Oscars said:

If the Sox continue to flounder, and Bello’s continues with his poor outings, he may start feeling a little nervous about his place in the rotation ….

No problem. Don't the Sox have 4 other top notch starters to replace Bello?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

52 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Maybe the one last October?

But that was because the Sox were missing their 2 future super stars, Anthony and Mayer.

[Oscars]

48 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

No problem. Don't the Sox have 4 other top notch starters to replace Bello?

They only need one.

Sandoval could be ready soon……

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

But that was because the Sox were missing their 2 future super stars, Anthony and Mayer.

Okay, well this is because we're missing Bregman & Devers.

[moonslav59]

Those that felt Bello should have been traded, seem to have been right on.

[Sthpaw777]

So this is what we can expect moving forward from John Henry now.? This team is a mess and are hard to watch. 6B man and he pinches Pennie’s. Sell the team loser.

[moonslav59]

4 hours ago, Sthpaw777 said:

So this is what we can expect moving forward from John Henry now.? This team is a mess and are hard to watch. 6B man and he pinches Pennie’s. Sell the team loser.

I doubt he's considering selling. I do wonder what his thoughts were, when fans were chanting that at the park.

I've always said, "Be careful what you wish for." The next owner could spend less and hire worse leadership.

I'm not ready to jump ship on Brez & Cora, but the thread is getting thinner and thinner by the day.

[Duran Is The Man]

15 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I doubt he's considering selling. I do wonder what his thoughts were, when fans were chanting that at the park.

I've always said, "Be careful what you wish for." The next owner could spend less and hire worse leadership.

I'm not ready to jump ship on Brez & Cora, but the thread is getting thinner and thinner by the day.

yep, Brez and Cora need to go. i'd fire them today if i was Henry.

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, Duran Is The Man said:

yep, Brez and Cora need to go. i'd fire them today if i was Henry.

I'm not there... yet.

[notin]

7 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

yep, Brez and Cora need to go. i'd fire them today if i was Henry.

Cora should be on thin ice…

[moonslav59]

8 minutes ago, notin said:

Cora should be on thin ice…

I do think he is on thinner ice than Breslow, but I still think they could promote him rather than fire him, as weird as that sounds.

[Tedballgame]

14 hours ago, Oscars said:

They only need one.

Sandoval could be ready soon……

Sandoval has not been tearing anything up in AAA

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

The problem is that changes clearly need to be made -- but "this is the roster" is the reality. 

The main changes needed to be made in the offseason unless a new manager -- and pray to the baseball gods, a new coaching staff -- comes in without any relationship to the players and immediately switch Mayer and Story.

They're committed to giving Durbin half a season to get straightened out, so aren't replacing him with IKF or Monasterio yet. Who knows when Romy returns or how long it takes him to contribute.

The only move that could help right now -- and this is going to freak some fans -- is to trade Duran for any asset like a decent reliever and make Yoshida a full-timer in the batting order.

This current starting line-up just isn't going to strike out less unless Masa the Punching Bag gets to punch pitches regularly. He should be the DH every day and not Anthony, who needs to play left field every day so he doesn't sit in the dugout and think too much.

Young guys need to run on and off the diamond all game long to get into and stay into a groove on both O and D.

[illinoisredsox]

1 hour ago, Duran Is The Man said:

yep, Brez and Cora need to go. i'd fire them today if i was Henry.

They could find a replacement for Cora; replacing Breslow is a different animal.  No executive wants to work for the Red Sox and won’t unless Henry commits to winning again.  Remember, Breslow was the 11th choice, and most of the first 10 wouldn’t even interview.  

[notin]

9 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

They could find a replacement for Cora; replacing Breslow is a different animal.  No executive wants to work for the Red Sox and won’t unless Henry commits to winning again.  Remember, Breslow was the 11th choice, and most of the first 10 wouldn’t even interview.  

Only 4 (former Sox/current DBacks GM Mike Hazen, Guardian’s President Chris Antonetti, Brewers’ GM Matt Arnold, Rays’ executive Peter Bendix) declined.  

In the case of Bendix, he was interviewing for and eventually got the position of POBO with the Marlins…

[moonslav59]

57 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

They could find a replacement for Cora; replacing Breslow is a different animal.  No executive wants to work for the Red Sox and won’t unless Henry commits to winning again.  Remember, Breslow was the 11th choice, and most of the first 10 wouldn’t even interview.  

The Sox are 6th in spending and spend more than double 8 teams. They spend over $60M more than half the teams.

Henry has a long history of targeted budget cuts followed by significant high spending trends.

[moonslav59]

Devers trade update:

Devers in 485 PAs: 22 HRs 59 RBI

.231 BA and .758 OPS

Kyle Harrison: 3.04 ERA in just 27 IP since trade

James Tibbs: 9 HRs in 81 ABs in AAA, this year (1.116 OPS)

Jose Bello: doing okay in A-.

Hicks: part of trade for Durbin, Monasterio & Seigler

Money saved spent on: choose one: Suarez, Gray or Contreras