Red Sox Trade The Password

[JoeBrady]

7 hours ago, Hitch said:

I was just about to post the same thing ha!

Probably everyone noticed that.  Some fans want you to trade all your prospects.  And when they trade any of them, it's a dumb move.

[Hugh2]

1 minute ago, JoeBrady said:

Probably everyone noticed that.  Some fans want you to trade all your prospects.  And when they trade any of them, it's a dumb move.

The relative of the person who wants the Sox to sign everyone and then they ever do sign anyone it was for too much money

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

It shouldn't be their job to get a guy who has been a #2, rather it should be their job to get a guy who is GOING TO BE a #2. 

Thank you for that.  This is why I like the idea of trading for guys like Chandler and Burns, or Tong to a lesser degree.  I don't want to get slightly better for 2 years by buying acquiring hitters while tying up payroll for latter years.  I want to get the most intimidating rotation in BB for the next 5-6 years.

[JoeBrady]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

He needs to upgrade the whole roster, not just add a #2, a 1b and a 3b. 

Spot on correct.  You build good long-term success by adding value on every trade, and at every position.

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, Kimmi said:

The moves made so far this offseason have been solid, yet underwhelming for those who are looking for a blockbuster type move.  I get it. 

I get it too.  Big moves are exciting.  Everyone wants a #2.  Heck, I want a second #1.  But you can't always find these guys.  And when you find someone willing to trade a known product, it's going to be expensive.  If you want a #2, you trade for someone like Tong, but then you have to wait.  If you want a #1, you trade for guys like Chandler or Burns, but then you have to wait.

[Larry Cook]

30 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I expect Oviedo to be in the BP/depth starter.  And I like Guzman a fair amount.  Huge defensive scores.

I see Guzman at Arizona. Cannon for an arm! Outside of that, what is there to like about him????

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Oviedo threw 177 innings two years ago before he needed Tommy John. Now he's back with a rising fastball.

You know how many Red Sox had 177 IP in 2025? The answer is the number of hooks it takes to Crochet a blanket.

Johan's our new Numba Foe.

[FredLynn]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

I think you are confusing Breslow with Bloom. 

I think you’re wrong. The past two TDs Breslow equivocated, getting neither the help the team needed to be a serious competitor for a deep playoff run nor a seller to plan to contend in future years. He hasn’t been awful, but he hasn’t really done a good job either.

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Kimmi said:

There is a lot more that goes into a trade or into signing a free agent than what we are aware of.  Unless a team is willing to grossly overpay for a player, there are 29 or 30 other teams who might factor into the equation.  The targeted player's demands and wishes must also be taken into account.  Maybe a player doesn't want to play on the east coast, for instance.

All that to say that I don't think Breslow is intentionally lying or deceiving us about a #2 starting pitcher being one of his top priorities.   I acknowledge that the FO's idea of a reasonable price to pay for a player is probably much different than the fans' idea, and therein lies the problem, I think.

How many times does he have to unintentionally deceive the fans, before he learns to watch his words and promises?

It's not a lie if you say something you believe is true, even if it turns out to be false. I get that, but the fans have had to sit here and hear talk after talk that ends up being just that: talk and little action.

He was pressed to say whether he felt Gray fit the #2 starter need, and he hemmed and hawed and suddenly became less specific. Call it whatever you want, and maybe I was too harsh, but this has gone on for years.

I can't get The Smiths song out of my head...

When you say it's gonna happen now
Well, when exactly do you mean?
See, I've already waited too long
And all my hope is gone

[JoeBrady]

4 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

I see Guzman at Arizona. Cannon for an arm! Outside of that, what is there to like about him????

I like having catchers with strong defensive resumes, and that the hitting part of catching is easier to learn than the defensive side..  The fact that Pitt deemed him worthy of a 5th round pick encourages me.  And due to the large drop out rate among catching prospects, I like hoarding them.

[notin]

7 hours ago, Old Red said:

Not everyone likes spaghetti though.🤮

Just because you only know how to make one dish doesnt mean it’s the only one everyone can make.

And - you’re dead wrong.  Everyone likes spaghetti.  Everyone.  If you don’t like spaghetti, you’re probably no one….

[Duran Is The Man]

9 minutes ago, notin said:

Just because you only know how to make one dish doesnt mean it’s the only one everyone can make.

And - you’re dead wrong.  Everyone likes spaghetti.  Everyone.  If you don’t like spaghetti, you’re probably no one….

i'd like a couple slices of cheese on mine, thanks.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, JoeBrady said:

I like having catchers with strong defensive resumes, and that the hitting part of catching is easier to learn than the defensive side..  The fact that Pitt deemed him worthy of a 5th round pick encourages me.  And due to the large drop out rate among catching prospects, I like hoarding them.

Hard to know if he was just a throw-in or a significant ask... likely somewhere in between.

[notin]

42 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

i'd like a couple slices of cheese on mine, thanks.

I see you want the #2.

 

 

(rimshot)

[notin]

5 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Hard to know if he was just a throw-in or a significant ask... likely somewhere in between.

Do trades ever have insignificant asks?

[notin]

6 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

I see Guzman at Arizona. Cannon for an arm! Outside of that, what is there to like about him????

1.  He’s nice to his mother.

2. He exchanges oxygen for carbon dioxide, which is good for plants.

3. The Sox have a barren void in the middle of an arid wasteland when it comes to catching prospects.

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, notin said:

Do trades ever have insignificant asks?

Good question. Some more than others, for sure.

[notin]

6 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

Thank you for that.  This is why I like the idea of trading for guys like Chandler and Burns, or Tong to a lesser degree.  I don't want to get slightly better for 2 years by buying acquiring hitters while tying up payroll for latter years.  I want to get the most intimidating rotation in BB for the next 5-6 years.

Chandler? Burns?

Isn’t it a bit “Early” to give up on what we already have?

 

I know I know.  But I’m trying…

[JoeBrady]

10 hours ago, notin said:

Just because you only know how to make one dish doesnt mean it’s the only one everyone can make.

And - you’re dead wrong.  Everyone likes spaghetti.  Everyone.  If you don’t like spaghetti, you’re probably no one….

I remember taking the kids on cruises.  When they were younger, my daughter only ordered spaghetti with butter.  The cruises were great, but it made me wince spending a decent amount of money and she ordered a 25-cents meal.

[JoeBrady]

9 hours ago, notin said:

Chandler? Burns?

Isn’t it a bit “Early” to give up on what we already have?

 

I know I know.  But I’m trying…

I don't want to Burn the Chandle on both ends.

But seriously, I want to build a staff comprised of 4 #1-2 SPs.  With several teams in need of a CF, and with us having some high-quality redundancies, I think this is an opportune moment to acquire some more good young pitching.  We have 4 good pitching prospects, but I'd like to acquire more certainty.

[Hugh2]

When it comes to pitching, certainty is the rarest commodity in the game

[notin]

1 hour ago, JoeBrady said:

I don't want to Burn the Chandle on both ends.

 

You’re making me feel better about some of my jokes…

[Randy Red Sox]

On 12/5/2025 at 3:50 AM, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

My son was upset the Sox traded the prospect who hit more homers the past two years than Roman Anthony.

But I told him the team with the third-highest revenue that is all about winning championships doesn't need Password's HRs, because they're going to sign Alonso or Schwarber AND Bregman or Bichette.

And then he got really mad at me.

because he knows it ain't happening.

[Randy Red Sox]

11 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Hard to know if he was just a throw-in or a significant ask... likely somewhere in between.

Especially that after trading Teel it is an organizational weakness.

[moonslav59]

20 minutes ago, notin said:

You’re making me feel better about some of my jokes…

I thought the post was from GG. I even changed my contact lenses to make sure.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

When it comes to pitching, certainty is the rarest commodity in the game

Look at what teams are giving up for good or even just decent pitchers. I have to think, when all the best FA pitchers are taken, team will come knocking on Brez's door to "settle" on guys like Crawford, Harrison, Dobbins and maybe even Perales and offer overpays to get one or two. We have the ability to package a very good OF'er (Duran, Abreu or Rafaela) with a couple ML ready 4/5 SP'ers that might be 3's on some teams for a singular high quality #2 SP'er or big power bat who plays 3B, 1B or 2B. It might take a third team to make all the parts fit, but I gotta think we have a blockbuster pending.

I just hope we also have a shock FA signing (or two mildly shocking) pending as well.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

12 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I thought the post was from GG. I even changed my contact lenses to make sure.

I think you nailed it, Doobslav59: exactly one big signing -- Bregman, Bichette or Alonso -- and a blockbuster trade of one or two #5-10 starting pitchers for the other missing infielder.

The rotation is set #1-4 with Crochet, Gray, Bello and Oviedo. 

[moonslav59]

19 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

Especially that after trading Teel it is an organizational weakness.

He could be a throw-in or someone Brez really likes.

I'm not so sure our farm is so totally devoid of promising catchers, but most seem to be light on defense, which is very concerning.

soxprospects.com has Johanfran Garcia ranked 29th, but I have him top 20. The site says he has potential to be "an average defender."

33. Luke Heyman (draftee)

34. Franklin Primera (DSL)

45. Jorge Rodriguez (FCL)

47. Brooks Brannon (AA who plays 1B, too.)

59. Geraldo Rodriguez (A-)

Adonys Guzman has not been ranked, yet.

Roster projections:

AAA: Jason Delay, Ronald Rosario, Enderso Lira

AA: Jo. Garcia, Brannon (1B), Hudson White

A+: A. Guzman, Ronny Hernandez, K Salazar

A-: L Heyman, G Rodriguez, J Rodriguez

FCL: Primera, Berry, Zambrano, Marin, Mambel

I'm not claiming this group is even above average, but the state of catching in MLB is pretty bad. Maybe it's not as bad as it looks.

[Larry Cook]

12 hours ago, notin said:

1.  He’s nice to his mother.

2. He exchanges oxygen for carbon dioxide, which is good for plants.

3. The Sox have a barren void in the middle of an arid wasteland when it comes to catching prospects.

Isn’t he from Brooklyn??  Not the most family friendly type neighborhood.   Have you any proof he is nice to his mother??? 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Prediction: they'll sign Bregman and trade a pitcher for Yandy Diaz and be done.

Tampa likes Red Sox pitchers with potential as much as Boston likes Tommy John underwear: Dobbins or Crawford or Harrison, buh-bye. One of those guys has to be Jalen Beeks-Jeffrey Springs-Zach Littell enough...