Morosi: Jarren Duran Would Be A "Great Fit" With Detroit Tigers

[notin]

7 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Why are the Sox no longer the big boys? 

They’ve been trying to shed that label since 2019…

[drewski6]

12 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Why automatically create a roster that makes you an underdog if you can push the envelope? 

Breslow's ego

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, notin said:

They’ve been trying to shed that label since 2019…

Need to keep bullying JH.

From an article when Dombrowski was fired:

"Henry telegraphed how he planned to spend that fanbase leeway back in January at the Winter Weekend: “Every team has constraints. It’s not necessarily the [luxury tax] that is your constraint. It’s how much money you’re willing to lose.” That grew to “we’re already over budget and we were substantially over our budget last year and this year” during the frustration of the games in London."

[notin]

4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Need to keep bullying JH.

From an article when Dombrowski was fired:

"Henry telegraphed how he planned to spend that fanbase leeway back in January at the Winter Weekend: “Every team has constraints. It’s not necessarily the [luxury tax] that is your constraint. It’s how much money you’re willing to lose.” That grew to “we’re already over budget and we were substantially over our budget last year and this year” during the frustration of the games in London."

I don’t think us bullying JH will help.  He doesn’t listen to me like he used to…

[notin]

13 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Breslow's ego

Please don’t go there…

[Randy Red Sox]

17 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

My point was, why would skubal extend for less than what the Mets of Dodgers would pay?

If he'd agree to an extension before the trade is finalized, I'd listen, but if the extension is an NYM prices, then why not just wait a year and offer a NYM salary?

have you forgotten who owns the Red Sox?

 

[drewski6]

29 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Need to keep bullying JH.

From an article when Dombrowski was fired:

"Henry telegraphed how he planned to spend that fanbase leeway back in January at the Winter Weekend: “Every team has constraints. It’s not necessarily the [luxury tax] that is your constraint. It’s how much money you’re willing to lose.” That grew to “we’re already over budget and we were substantially over our budget last year and this year” during the frustration of the games in London."

I hope one day you run into him at a restaurant, and I happen to be there and you are standing in front of his table yelling out "boo this man" and pointing at him

It would be my honor.....to get thrown out of that restaurant with you.

[notin]

50 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

If they know they will not pay Skubal, they are basically getting a comp pick for a 1 year window, in a year where they are unlikely to go large and long to build a top 4 contending team for that 1 year window.

It does make some sense to rebuild, if you won't commit to Skubal. I mean guys like him don't grow on trees. They were dumb to not build up around him for the last 1-2 years and going into 2026. Now, is it worth it?

It is if it gets them a title.

If Cleveland decides to fold as well, Detroit can walk into the postseason.  They’ll be the first team in MLB Broadcast History to have their Magic Number countdown start on Opening Day.

This is the wrong year for them to deal Skubal.  At least now.  It makes infinitely more sense to hold Skubal and reassess the situation on July 31st…

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, notin said:

It is if it gets them a title.

If Cleveland decides to fold as well, Detroit can walk into the postseason.  They’ll be the first team in MLB Broadcast History to have their Magic Number countdown start on Opening Day.

This is the wrong year for them to deal Skubal.  At least now.  It makes infinitely more sense to hold Skubal and reassess the situation on July 31st…

They might get more at the deadline.

[drewski6]

2 minutes ago, notin said:

It is if it gets them a title.

If Cleveland decides to fold as well, Detroit can walk into the postseason.  They’ll be the first team in MLB Broadcast History to have their Magic Number countdown start on Opening Day.

This is the wrong year for them to deal Skubal.  At least now.  It makes infinitely more sense to hold Skubal and reassess the situation on July 31st…

I would argue that the team that folds has a greater chance of making the playoffs, due to the weirdness of deadline sellers going on a run post-selloff in that division last few years.

[notin]

Just now, moonslav59 said:

They might get more at the deadline.

The only gamble is health.  But pennant and/or better return makes it worthwhile…

[notin]

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

I would argue that the team that folds has a greater chance of making the playoffs, due to the weirdness of deadline sellers going on a run post-selloff in that division last few years.

A strategy that backfired on Minnesota last year.  But now at least you’re on your them…

[Larry Cook]

7 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I fully understand that, but why would Skubla extend with us for less than what he'd get from the Mets (or Dodger?)

He wouldn’t 

[Hugh2]

3 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Yes, indeed. I think we were pretty sure we could meet Crochet's price. I don't think we can be sure with Skubal, unless we go to absurd levels. My point is, if we are prepared to go to absurd levels, then just wait a year and trade for someone else who has 2- 3+ years of control, this winter.

Well then you don't make the trade

[Hugh2]

1 hour ago, notin said:

I think Detroit would be insane to put Skubal on the trade market.  Let’s look at the AL Central.

Minnesota - Rebuilding and cutting salary like mad.  Team looks like a advanced AAAA roster, especially if they move Ryan and/or Ober.

Chicago  - No longer the worst team in history but they’re not exactly threats.

Cleveland - Facing the biggest loss to gambling bans since the 1919 White Sox, which might impact direction this year.

Kansas City - At least they’re still trying.  As far as we know.

 

With that level of compete, why trade Skubal?

 

Because they have no interest in resigning him at the value he wants.  If you know you're not going to dish out 400 million for him why not get value?

That's what happened with Soto, and that's what happened with Betts.  It's not that insane....teams do it. 

[Hugh2]

28 minutes ago, notin said:

It is if it gets them a title.

If Cleveland decides to fold as well, Detroit can walk into the postseason.  They’ll be the first team in MLB Broadcast History to have their Magic Number countdown start on Opening Day.

This is the wrong year for them to deal Skubal.  At least now.  It makes infinitely more sense to hold Skubal and reassess the situation on July 31st…

Ok, but there's been rumblings that Detroit has considered shopping him around. 

Perhaps they're just that, rumors, but it happens, and if he does go on the trade market you'd be insane to not kick the tires and see if you could live with the contract/price

[moonslav59]

7 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Well then you don't make the trade

You hardly ever see trades made with an extension as part of it.

[Tedballgame]

On 11/5/2025 at 12:14 PM, notin said:

Duran for Skubal!! Makes sense for both teams!

Except Detroit.  It really makes very little sense for them…

If it makes sense for both teams except for Detroit, then it doesn't make sense for both teams. LOL!

 

[Duran Is The Man]

3 hours ago, drewski6 said:

I hope one day you run into him at a restaurant, and I happen to be there and you are standing in front of his table yelling out "boo this man" and pointing at him

It would be my honor.....to get thrown out of that restaurant with you.

me too, brother.

[notin]

6 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Because they have no interest in resigning him at the value he wants.  If you know you're not going to dish out 400 million for him why not get value?

That's what happened with Soto, and that's what happened with Betts.  It's not that insane....teams do it. 

As hard as it gets to believe, some teams occasionally try to win a title.

Detroit won 87 games last year, finished second in the AL Central, won a post-season series, and are in a division with 3 opponents either heading the wrong way or just too far out of it.

Boston traded Betts after finishing 3rd in the AL East, 19 games out of first, and missing the postseason entirely.

These situations are not similar…

[Hitch]

5 hours ago, notin said:

As hard as it gets to believe, some teams occasionally try to win a title.

Detroit won 87 games last year, finished second in the AL Central, won a post-season series, and are in a division with 3 opponents either heading the wrong way or just too far out of it.

Boston traded Betts after finishing 3rd in the AL East, 19 games out of first, and missing the postseason entirely.

These situations are not similar…

Okay, but let's not pretend that they can't get better in the long term and still contend with a deal. 

They're obviously not signing him long term, and they have a future to think about. Whatever they get back will be good for this year and the future. Of course they're going to see what's available to them, and I imagine, in the end, trade him. 

In relation to this...as keeps being pointed out by myself and Hugh - no extension, stay away. 

 

[Hitch]

12 hours ago, drewski6 said:

I hope one day you run into him at a restaurant, and I happen to be there and you are standing in front of his table yelling out "boo this man" and pointing at him

It would be my honor.....to get thrown out of that restaurant with you.

Yes damn that man and his 4 world series for a town that had none in the 80 odd years before he came.

[Hugh2]

8 hours ago, notin said:

As hard as it gets to believe, some teams occasionally try to win a title.

Detroit won 87 games last year, finished second in the AL Central, won a post-season series, and are in a division with 3 opponents either heading the wrong way or just too far out of it.

Boston traded Betts after finishing 3rd in the AL East, 19 games out of first, and missing the postseason entirely.

These situations are not similar…

The Detroit Tigers won 3 more games than we did in 2019 and the Sox largely had the same team that won a world series in 2018. 

It's not like I'm pulling this out of nowhere, as it's been reported that the Tigers have kicked the tires on trading Skubal if they can't resign him.  Which is where I think the decision to trade him comes from, and not how many teams finish in front of you. 

Conversely, the Tigers could hold onto Skubal and trade him at the deadline in 2026 instead if they're out of contention and know they can't resign him.  I'm not saying it's likely he's traded, it's probably more probable than not he isn't.  But if the Tigers decide to trade him.....you got to be interested. 

[Hugh2]

14 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

You hardly ever see trades made with an extension as part of it.

Depends on what your criteria is.  Are you saying that teams don't trade for players and players do not immediately sign an extension? because by that definition the Sox didn't trade for Crochet and then extend him but they did shortly afterwards and they likely had an ideal what it was going to take to extend him before they pulled that trigger. 

[mvp 78]

15 hours ago, drewski6 said:

I hope one day you run into him at a restaurant, and I happen to be there and you are standing in front of his table yelling out "boo this man" and pointing at him

It would be my honor.....to get thrown out of that restaurant with you.

FL is a stand your ground state so it could get interesting. 

[drewski6]

4 hours ago, Hitch said:

Yes damn that man and his 4 world series for a town that had none in the 80 odd years before he came.

made billions in asset appreciation, bought the penguins. I dont lick billionaire boots.

[drewski6]

Just now, drewski6 said:

made billions in asset appreciation, bought the penguins. I dont lick billionaire boots.

but really, more than anything....I enjoy inserting myself into commotion.

[notin]

16 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Ok, but there's been rumblings that Detroit has considered shopping him around. 

Perhaps they're just that, rumors, but it happens, and if he does go on the trade market you'd be insane to not kick the tires and see if you could live with the contract/price

There are rumblings surrounding any potential free agent.  And sometimes rumblings around any star player on a small market team regardless of years.  See Greene, Hunter and Skenes, Paul.

At a minimum, if they move him, Duran is off their wishlist.   Would you give up Early, Campbell abd Romero for one year of Skubal?

[notin]

3 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

made billions in asset appreciation, bought the penguins. I dont lick billionaire boots.

He bought the Penguins.  Clearly the man has suffered enough…

[drewski6]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

FL is a stand your ground state so it could get interesting. 

This is going to end with one of us slapping the other in the chest, and screaming "GET THE TABLES!"