Red Sox (Bello) vs Twins (Matthews): 7/30/25, 1:10pm

[dannycater]

Just now, harmony said:

The 2025 post-Rafael Devers Red Sox are emitting a 2004 post-Nomar Garciaparra vibe.

there is a weird thing about this whole affair...but I think '04 was about getting the defensive minded Cabrera to complete the puzzle at SS and then adding Roberts (a la Hamilton) for stealing bases and Mankayvitch (phonetic spelling) for backup 1b...Nomar was batting .321 after coming back from an injury layoff, not like he wasn't hitting--his defense range declined.

[illinoisredsox]

4 minutes ago, Nick said:

Per Mass Live

Friday, 7:10 p.m. ET — RHP Hunter Brown (9-5, 2.54 ERA) vs. TBA

Saturday, 4:10 p.m. ET — LHP Colton Gordon (4-3, 4.74 ERA) vs. RHP Walker Buehler (6-6, 5.72 ERA)

Sunday, 11:35 a.m. ET — LHP Framber Valdez (11-4, 2.62 ERA) vs. RHP Lucas Giolito (7-2, 3.80 ERA)

How can they be so stupid? I think that TBA is Crochet......Buehler pitches after Crochet. Lazy writers.

They've already announced Crochet will be skipped on Friday; nothing wrong, just a preplanned break.  And before you start screaming they are babying him, it's not unusual for teams to do that with pitchers who have thrown a lot of innings, and August is often a month they do it in.

[mvp 78]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

If Wong is hitting doubles, Sox should be winning this game easily. Twins must be tanking. 

Blowout city

[mvp 78]

26 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

They've already announced Crochet will be skipped on Friday; nothing wrong, just a preplanned break.  And before you start screaming they are babying him, it's not unusual for teams to do that with pitchers who have thrown a lot of innings, and August is often a month they do it in.

They should baby him! He’ll throw a career high in innings this year and may need bullets for the playoffs.

[Nick]

26 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

They've already announced Crochet will be skipped on Friday; nothing wrong, just a preplanned break.  And before you start screaming they are babying him, it's not unusual for teams to do that with pitchers who have thrown a lot of innings, and August is often a month they do it in.

I certainly don't think Crochet is being babied. I did not see that second article. My bad.....it just seem weird that they had TBD.

That was me being stupid.

[mvp 78]

2 hours ago, Maxbialystock said:

Wong's OPS last year was .758 in 126 games.    In fact I think he played 1b a couple of times because of his bat.

Reportedly, his framing has improved this year.

 

There was an article on here earlier this season about his 24 numbers being built on luck. 

[Maxbialystock]

28 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

They've already announced Crochet will be skipped on Friday; nothing wrong, just a preplanned break.  And before you start screaming they are babying him, it's not unusual for teams to do that with pitchers who have thrown a lot of innings, and August is often a month they do it in.

Heck, last time I looked he led MLB in IP.  So of course I'm for it.  

[mvp 78]

2 hours ago, Maxbialystock said:

The mods are right.  We need to dump Duran ASAP.  

Moderators have said nothing of the sort.

[Maxbialystock]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

There was an article on here earlier this season about his 24 numbers being built on luck. 

Of course it was luck.   It's important never to say anything good about him.  

[mvp 78]

2 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

Of course it was luck.   It's important never to say anything good about him.  

His defense has improved. There, I said something nice. 

[Maxbialystock]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Moderators have said nothing of the sort.

That's been topic 1 for at least a month, and the reasoning was that the Sox have too many outfielders--kind of like the Austrian Emperor telling Mozart his opera had too many notes.  When the Sox refused to exchange Duran for Cease, Breslow was criticized right here on talksox. 

Mr Golito's latest article claims Cease is better than Bello, which would make him a fair exchange for Duran (despite the facetious "lock Duran up" claim).  Cease's WAR,  0.5, is 12th best among Padres pitchers.  

I would be dishonest if I didn't admit I too was ready to dump Duran, but I said so because I thought the Sox would get good value in return.  However, right now, today, we're being told yet again how great Cease is.  Duran's WAR, +3.0,  is 3d best among lineup players on the Sox.  

 

 

 

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

That's been topic 1 for at least a month, and the reasoning was that the Sox have too many outfielders--kind of like the Austrian Emperor telling Mozart his opera had too many notes.  When the Sox refused to exchange Duran for Cease, Breslow was criticized right here on talksox. 

 

Mr Golito's latest article claims Cease is better than Bello, which would make him a fair exchange for Duran (despite the facetious "lock Duran up" claim).  Cease's WAR,  0.5, is 12th best among Padres pitchers.  

I would be dishonest if I didn't admit I too was ready to dump Duran, but I said so because I thought the Sox would get good value in return.  However, right now, today, we're being told yet again how great Cease is.  Duran's WAR, +3.0,  is 3d best among lineup players on the Sox.  

 

 

 

Mods: me, bellhorn, jbay

That’s it.

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, harmony said:

The 2025 post-Rafael Devers Red Sox are emitting a 2004 post-Nomar Garciaparra vibe.

I can’t even imagine how disruptive it must have been in the clubhouse having young impressionable rookies sitting next to a guy who refused to do what was best for the team. Now the rookies have learned that if you’re not a team player you’re not on the team.

[jad]

46 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

I can’t even imagine how disruptive it must have been in the clubhouse having young impressionable rookies sitting next to a guy who refused to do what was best for the team. Now the rookies have learned that if you’re not a team player you’re not on the team.

And of course telling rookies to toe management line or be prepared to be traded or in their case sent down is IN NO WAY disruptive or intimidating.

[FredLynn]

30 minutes ago, jad said:

And of course telling rookies to toe management line or be prepared to be traded or in their case sent down is IN NO WAY disruptive or intimidating.

It’s the rules of the game. Baseball is a team sport. If a player doesn’t accept that then they SHOULD be off the team. There’s only one manager, one GM. The players get paid a lot of money to do what’s best for the TEAM, not for themselves.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

As of right now Story's OPS+ is 107.

[Jasonbay44]

Decent game for Duran to boost his trade value for a rental starter! 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

3 minutes ago, Jasonbay44 said:

Decent game for Duran to boost his trade value for a rental starter! 

I doubt Duran's going anywhere. Breslow's going after a #4 starter. Perhaps Charlie Morton.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Watching the Rays/Yankems game. Giving credit where credit's due, Bellinger is one helluva ballplayer.

Edited July 31, 2025 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[moonslav59]

Big win.

Good to see Bello doing well with Wong, again.

Nice to see Wong wake up his bat from a long slumber.

The way Duran is playing, it would be very hard to trade him. Without knowing more about Mayer (and the need for Rafaela at 2B or not) trading an OF'er might not happen.

[Maxbialystock]

5 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Mods: me, bellhorn, jbay

That’s it.

Good grief.  Then I apologize.  You guys were/are good choices as mods.  

[Jasonbay44]

6 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Mods: me, bellhorn, jbay

That’s it.

I was going to say - I’ve been strongly opposed to trading Duran all season and I don’t think you or Bellhorn has really been advocating for it lol. 

[Jasonbay44]

2 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

I doubt Duran's going anywhere. Breslow's going after a #4 starter. Perhaps Charlie Morton.

I was being sarcastic due to all the trading Duran threads, articles and arguments. 

[moonslav59]

I think Brez is going to surprise many posters.

[Bellhorn04]

12 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Mods: me, bellhorn, jbay

That’s it.

Max must have been thinking of Site Manager Brandon Glick.

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Max must have been thinking of Site Manager Brandon Glick.

Someone break out an org chart! 😎

[jad]

On 7/30/2025 at 7:33 PM, FredLynn said:

It’s the rules of the game. Baseball is a team sport. If a player doesn’t accept that then they SHOULD be off the team. There’s only one manager, one GM. The players get paid a lot of money to do what’s best for the TEAM, not for themselves.

OK, Benito.

[FredLynn]

On 8/1/2025 at 4:01 AM, jad said:

OK, Benito.

Did you think that the business of baseball is run like a democracy?