Article: Where Should Rafael Devers Play?

[Nick John]

With Rafael Devers sidelined to start spring training, Red Sox fans may not know what the "regular" infield makeup will be until Opening Day. 

Spring Training games have begun and with it came the debate over where certain players should play for the Boston Red Sox. The most prominent being where Alex Bregman and Rafael Devers will play. Devers will be entering his age-28 season, the third since signing his franchise record 11-year, $331 million contract. The deal will keep him in Boston through the 2033 season and created the assumption at the time that Devers would be the starting third baseman for the foreseeable future. That has changed with the signing of Alex Bregman.

All offseason, it was stated that Bregman would be the starting second baseman if he signed with Boston. You had Alex Cora stating that he envisioned Bregman as a Gold Glove second baseman. But now with spring training in full swing, there’s been a debate as to where Devers and Bregman will play and what would be best for the team in the long run. Fans would argue that the best lineup for the Red Sox would be Devers at designated hitter, Bregman playing third base and top prospect Kristian Campbell making the team as the starting second baseman. Defensively this makes the most sense, Bregman is already a Gold Glove defender at third, having won the award this past season while Devers is considered one of the worst defensive third basemen in the game. Last season alone, Devers recorded a minus-6 Outs Above Average. To put that in perspective, that was tied for 36th out of the 43 qualified third basemen last season. Since 2020, Devers has compiled a minus-34 Outs Above Average, ranking as the worst among all qualified third basemen in that span. And despite that, Devers wants to stay at third base. While talking to the media back on February 17th, Devers was asked if he was willing to move off third base to allow new teammate Alex Bregman, his response was simple and he repeated it often.

“No. I play third.”

This single quote and its repetition by Devers has led to a division among Red Sox fans, some believing that Devers should give up the position and move to being a designated hitter to both preserve his body and to allow the Red Sox to field their best defensive lineup. However, others have pointed out that if Devers quickly relinquished the position he would have been viewed as lazy or ready to just hit now that he has signed his contract. And while even ignoring Devers’ defensive woes, it may not be in the best interest of the team to make Devers a permanent designated hitter.

The thought would be that the team would be best with Devers at designated hitter, Bregman as the starting third baseman and top prospect Campbell as the starting second baseman, however, that belief has a few issues. The first would be that Campbell is an unproven rookie. Yes, he vaulted up the prospect rankings last season and finished the year in triple-A Worcester, but as shown from the early games of spring training he’s still a young player who’s learning. The second issue would be the benching of current designated hitter Masataka Yoshida.

The left-handed hitter was moved from left field to designated hitter heading into the 2024 season, much to his displeasure. And despite putting up with injuries across the season he still managed to slash a decent .280/.349/.415 with 10 home runs and 56 runs batted in despite dealing with thumb and shoulder injuries. The latter resulted in offseason surgery. If Devers is the new designated hitter, Yoshida would be without a position as the outfield is filled and his bat is too valuable to lose, especially if he’s fully healthy this season. While his numbers may not jump out at you, Yoshida’s OPS+ was 112, putting him as a slightly above average hitter. Add to it his incredibly low whiff and strikeout percentages and he’s a rather valuable member of the lineup when it comes to putting the ball in play.

The third and final dilemma is the fact that many players perform worse as the designated hitter. There's a even a name for this phenomenon: The Designated Hitter Penalty. For many players, they need the time in the field to keep them in rhythm when they finally get up to bat. It gives them a chance to think about other aspects of the game besides just hitting and allows them to move on from a poor at-bat. Doing nothing but hitting and then sitting in the dugout thinking about your next at-bat while your teammates field can be mentally draining for players, especially ones like Devers, who have never played anything but one position, and clearly want to remain there. To be a truly great designated hitter you need to be mentally strong and be able to handle the tolls of slumps, otherwise they might drag themselves down and into a longer rut. 

Not everyone is a David Ortiz or Edgar Martinez who can just slot in as a designated hitter and handle it without issues. Even with the Red Sox they have had players in the past wish to play the field. Probably the most prominent duo being J.D .Martinez and Masataka Yoshida. Martinez signed with the Red Sox in 2018 and helped them win the World Series that season, but before that had shown some desire to remain in the outfield and not just hit. He was at a similar point in his career as Devers is now, just two years older than Devers is, Martinez wanted to play the field. His exact reason at the time when asked about wanting to play the outfield was “because I’m 30 years old”. 

Likewise, Martinez had an interesting split when he played the field vs when he didn’t in 2018. As the Red Sox outfield was loaded with young, homegrown stars Andrew Benintendi, Jackie Bradley Jr. and Mookie Betts, Martinez only played the outfield in 57 games that season. However, his bat exploded when he played in the field. In 57 games played in the outfield, Martinez managed to hit .383 in 219 at bats and got on base at a .450 clip. In 93 games as the designated hitter Martinez had 350 at-bats and saw his average drop to .297 and his on base percentage also drop to .373. His power was more prevalent while being the designated hitter, hitting 27 of them compared to 16 while playing in the outfield. Overall though, it shows just how playing in the field kept Martinez locked in. It’s been the same for his entire career, as between playing as the left fielder, right fielder or designated hitter, Martinez’s numbers have been lowest while playing as the designated hitter.

Yoshida is a similar case when you compare his stats based on his position. In 86 career games in left field, Yoshida has slashed .308/.350/.480 with 12 home runs and 60 runs batted in. He also struck out only 41 times in that span totaling 344 at-bats. As a designated hitter, however, those numbers drop. In 150 games as the designated hitter, Yoshida saw his numbers drop to a stat line of .273/.338/.407 along with 13 home runs and 68 runs batted in across 560 at-bats.

It's yet to be seen if Devers is someone who could handle the mounting pressure of being the team’s designated hitter, especially with calls for him to give up his starting position at third base. Based on a small sample size from last season when he was hurt, Devers hit rather well. But his line of .353/.371/.618 was only across eight games, not a large enough sample size to give us an idea of how he would do across a full season. If the Red Sox and Devers decide it’s best for the team for him to slide off of third base, I feel the best-case scenario for him would be similar to how they handled J.D. Martinez in 2018: play roughly a third of his games in the field to give him a break from the mental strains of being the designated hitter. Despite the defensive woes that Devers has at times, it would be best for the team in the long run to allow him time on the field, time to clear his head and give him a chance to reset at the plate by focusing on his defense. 

Though this question has been a thing since the start of spring training, this issue is a good one. The fact that we’re arguing over where multiple all-star players should play is something we haven’t been able to do for a few years now. Wherever Devers and Bregman end up playing, one thing is for certain: this team will be enjoyable to watch.

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[moonslav59]

A hurting Devers:

DH: Devers

1B: Casas, 2B Campbell or DHam-Romy, SS Story, 3B: Bregman

A healthy Devers:

DH: Casas & Devers

1B: Devers (if he can handle it) & Casas, the rest stays the same.

[TheSplinteredSplendor]

I think, if healthy, he should play CF.

[moonslav59]

4 hours ago, TheSplinteredSplendor said:

I think, if healthy, he should play CF.

Thus Spoke Trollathustra.

🤣

[TheSplinteredSplendor]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Thus Spoke Trollathustra.

🤣

Hardly trolling, just answering a stupid question with a stupid answer.

There's really only one position he can "play", and that's 3rd. Otherwise he's a DH.

[moonslav59]

9 minutes ago, TheSplinteredSplendor said:

Hardly trolling, just answering a stupid question with a stupid answer.

There's really only one position he can "play", and that's 3rd. Otherwise he's a DH.

You saw the goofy face, right?

I knew you were jivin'

[Nick John]

11 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

A hurting Devers:

DH: Devers

1B: Casas, 2B Campbell or DHam-Romy, SS Story, 3B: Bregman

A healthy Devers:

DH: Casas & Devers

1B: Devers (if he can handle it) & Casas, the rest stays the same.

Honestly at this point I feel it's too late to move Devers to first base for this season. It isn't so easy for a player to suddenly pick up a new position (yes, Bregman might end up at 2nd but the longer ST goes and he's yet to get game time there I doubt it happens) and throwing Devers onto first I feel could lead to an injury for him. Remember how Christian Arroyo ended up getting injured when we tried him at 1st in 2021?

I feel that Devers will split the season between 3rd and DH to keep his body from breaking down near the end of the season. 

[notin]

Boston.  
 

Next question…

[notin]

2 hours ago, TheSplinteredSplendor said:

Hardly trolling, just answering a stupid question with a stupid answer.

There's really only one position he can "play", and that's 3rd. Otherwise he's a DH.

DH is a position.  It’s just easier to field than most…

[Bellhorn04]

7 hours ago, notin said:

Boston.  
 

Next question…

Not playing him in any road games seems like a dicey strategy.

[moonslav59]

8 hours ago, Nick John said:

Honestly at this point I feel it's too late to move Devers to first base for this season. It isn't so easy for a player to suddenly pick up a new position (yes, Bregman might end up at 2nd but the longer ST goes and he's yet to get game time there I doubt it happens) and throwing Devers onto first I feel could lead to an injury for him. Remember how Christian Arroyo ended up getting injured when we tried him at 1st in 2021?

I feel that Devers will split the season between 3rd and DH to keep his body from breaking down near the end of the season. 

There are some things to learn at 1B that are way different than 3B, but he could learn it in a few weeks, before trying it in a game. Ideally, ST'ing would have been the best place, so maybe next winter/spring would be best.

The other issue that jumps out at me is just how awful Casas is at 1B. Devers could be 2nd worst in MLB, and we'd still see improved D at 1B.

He should DH, to start the year, and see how that goes. If he's itching to be on the field during the opps half innings, then grab a 1Bman's mitt and see how you (and Cora) like what you see.

[Bellhorn04]

We've heard a lot about all the work Wong did on his defense this offseason.  I wonder if they talked to Casas about improving his D.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

We've heard a lot about all the work Wong did on his defense this offseason.  I wonder if they talked to Casas about improving his D.

We need action, not talk. At least we took action on improving our defensive catching strategy. We took action on adding a real defensive 3Bman. I'm not sure a long talk with Casas would be enough.

[Bellhorn04]

6 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

We need action, not talk. At least we took action on improving our defensive catching strategy. We took action on adding a real defensive 3Bman. I'm not sure a long talk with Casas would be enough.

If Casas isn't interested in working hard on his D, that would lend credence to the mutterings out there that the team isn't thrilled with him. 

[mvp 78]

2 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

If Casas isn't interested in working hard on his D, that would lend credence to the mutterings out there that the team isn't thrilled with him. 

He's a guy whose physical gifts have brought him to MLB. He clearly has to take the next step. We don't know if it's health, ability or something else that is currently holding him back. 

Breslow said that he believes he can become a 40/120 guy. Casas says that if he doesn't get there, he shouldn't be the 1B. I guess he shouldn't be the 1B of the Boston Red Sox since I don't see him reaching those numbers at the moment. 

[Bellhorn04]

34 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

He's a guy whose physical gifts have brought him to MLB. He clearly has to take the next step. We don't know if it's health, ability or something else that is currently holding him back. 

Breslow said that he believes he can become a 40/120 guy. Casas says that if he doesn't get there, he shouldn't be the 1B. I guess he shouldn't be the 1B of the Boston Red Sox since I don't see him reaching those numbers at the moment. 

40/120 is Manny/Ortiz/HOF stuff.  

[Old Red]

3 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

If Casas isn't interested in working hard on his D, that would lend credence to the mutterings out there that the team isn't thrilled with him. 

Who says Casas hasn’t worked on his D?

[Bellhorn04]

Just now, Old Red said:

Who says Casas hasn’t worked on his D?

Nobody.  We just haven't heard that he has, the way we have with Wong.  Mainly it's just something to jabber about.

[mvp 78]

13 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

40/120 is Manny/Ortiz/HOF stuff.  

JD 2018

Papi 2006

Papi 2005

Manny 2005

Papi 2004

Manny 2004

Manny 2001

Mo 1996

Armas 1984

Rice 1978

Yaz 1967

Williams 1949

Foxx 1938

Foxx 1936

That's it. That's the list. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

JD 2018

Papi 2006

Papi 2005

Manny 2005

Papi 2004

Manny 2004

Manny 2001

Mo 1996

Armas 1984

Rice 1978

Yaz 1967

Williams 1949

Foxx 1938

Foxx 1936

That's it. That's the list. 

In the mid-80s we called Tony Senior "All-or-Nothing Armas." Especially in '84 when he led the league in Homers, RBIs and Strikeouts... what a whiffer: 156 Ks (that's less than O'Neill and Duran had last year).

[mvp 78]

10 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

In the mid-80s we called Tony Senior "All-or-Nothing Armas." Especially in '84 when he led the league in Homers, RBIs and Strikeouts... what a whiffer: 156 Ks (that's less than O'Neill and Duran had last year).

I just called him my favorite guy to sub in on RBI Baseball since they used the 1984 stats. https://wiki.dee-nee.com/wiki/Tony_Armas

[drewski6]

Maybe its me, but I find Casas to be a streakier bat than even Yoshida.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

16 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Maybe its me, but I find Casas to be a streakier bat than even Yoshida.

I never saw you streak, but Casas was caught sunbathing in foul territory at Fenway.

[Bellhorn04]

39 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Maybe its me, but I find Casas to be a streakier bat than even Yoshida.

Casas seems more like the slow starter/strong finisher type to me.

[mvp 78]

6 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Casas seems more like the slow starter/strong finisher type to me.

'23 was his only full season and that's how it worked out. 

BUT!

'24 333 OPS in June?!??! Does this portend troubles going forward?!?!?!?!? 🫣😮🥵🥶😨😭

[moonslav59]

7 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

If Casas isn't interested in working hard on his D, that would lend credence to the mutterings out there that the team isn't thrilled with him. 

I agree, and although I'm not scouring the net to find articles about how he's been working on his defense over any past winter or summer, I don't recall a single thing about him doing so.

[Larry Cook]

Just hoping Devers, story and Casas can stay healthy this year. 

[Old Red]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

I agree, and although I'm not scouring the net to find articles about how he's been working on his defense over any past winter or summer, I don't recall a single thing about him doing so.

They have showed on NESN before of Casa working on his D working on drills of digging low throws out of the dirt. I don’t know who works with him, but I know he participated in Story’s camp the last two years.  Just, because it isn’t publicized doesn’t mean he isn’t working on his D, and because you haven’t seen it, or read about it certainly in this case doesn’t mean anything either.

[moonslav59]

34 minutes ago, Old Red said:

They have showed on NESN before of Casa working on his D working on drills of digging low throws out of the dirt. I don’t know who works with him, but I know he participated in Story’s camp the last two years.  Just, because it isn’t publicized doesn’t mean he isn’t working on his D, and because you haven’t seen it, or read about it certainly in this case doesn’t mean anything either.

Yup.

I'm sure every player works on their D, at times- some more than others.

Sometimes you hear about extra work: sometimes you don't.

I do know one thing: Casas does not seem to be benefiting from it. (IMO, of course.)

[notin]

12 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Not playing him in any road games seems like a dicey strategy.

Schedule 162 home games. Problem solved…