2025 Prospects

[Hugh2]

24 minutes ago, Soxlover said:

Wonder where these picks will slot in the next rankings as Mayer and then Anthony graduate 

Soxprospects has said the following (not counting Mayer/Anthony Graduations)

Witherspoon - between 4-7

Phillips - between 12-15

Godbout - between 25-30

Eyanson - 12-15

 

[sk7326]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

It's not that he hates 4 seamers, it's that he hates BAD 4 seamers. If a pitcher has a good 4 seamer, he can throw it. The more interesting part about Witherspoon is that he's a bit smaller than the guys Breslow has targeted, but was probably taken because he was the best available. 

Phillips is a big body guy that if developed well can stay as a starter. Not a lot of innings on his arm, but really needs some work and is a high variance arm. Some project as a reliever.

Anthony Eyanson, the other college RHP,  should stick at starter due to build and has multiple above average pitches. Most likely is a well above slot signing.

The 2b/ss, Henry Godbout, is a contact first guy with very little power. Probably very similar to a Nick Yorke profile when you factor in the defensive issues as well. 

As far as Godbout goes - from at least the usual suspects (Law, Longenhagen, McDaniel, Callis) it seems mostly confident he will be fine at 2B.  

[mvp 78]

51 minutes ago, Soxlover said:

Wonder where these picks will slot in the next rankings as Mayer and then Anthony graduate 

They said on last night's podcast that Witherspoon would probably rank 6th (in the Arias/Garcia/Perales tier) with the Phillips and Eyanson around 12-15. Godbout would be closer to 30. 

[mvp 78]

The only unfun thing about these three guys is that they probably won't pitch very much this season as they'll spend most of their time in the lab. 🥼

[sk7326]

52 minutes ago, Soxlover said:

Wonder where these picks will slot in the next rankings as Mayer and then Anthony graduate 

My guess is Witherspoon slots in comfortably in the Top 5.

[Soxlover]

2 minutes ago, sk7326 said:

My guess is Witherspoon slots in comfortably in the Top 5.

Thanks.

[sk7326]

20 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They said on last night's podcast that Witherspoon would probably rank 6th (in the Arias/Garcia/Perales tier) with the Phillips and Eyanson around 12-15. Godbout would be closer to 30. 

If we assume the graduates are out of the prospect pool (Mayer, Anthony) ... what are we looking at

Arias, Garcia, Perales, Witherspoon, Tolle ... in some order, that seems plausible 

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, sk7326 said:

If we assume the graduates are out of the prospect pool (Mayer, Anthony) ... what are we looking at

Arias, Garcia, Perales, Witherspoon, Tolle ... in some order, that seems plausible 

Tolle #1 100%

Arias most likely #2

Perales/Garcia/Witherspoon in some order

[Soxlover]

I’d put Jh Garcia 2.

1. Tolle

2. Garcia

3. Arias

4. Perales

5. Whitherspoon

6. Clarke

7. Tibbs

8. Early

9. Valera

10. Romero

[mvp 78]

27 minutes ago, Soxlover said:

I’d put Jh Garcia 2.

1. Tolle

2. Garcia

3. Arias

4. Perales

5. Whitherspoon

6. Clarke

7. Tibbs

8. Early

9. Valera

10. Romero

The guys at SP are worried about his hit tool and his platoon issues. We'll see where they end up ranking him. 

[Soxlover]

25 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

The guys at SP are worried about his hit tool and his platoon issues. We'll see where they end up ranking him. 

Arias is such a great defender at a tough position that there is not much focus on doubts with his offense.

Jh Garcia is pretty damn good on D and can play CF or RF. Hes hit over .820 vs RHP the last 2 seasons

[Larry Cook]

Portland relief pitcher troye released today! 

[Hugh2]

20 hours ago, sk7326 said:

If we assume the graduates are out of the prospect pool (Mayer, Anthony) ... what are we looking at

Arias, Garcia, Perales, Witherspoon, Tolle ... in some order, that seems plausible 

It's really tough to say, beacuse the Soxprospects crew didn't specify if the projected rankings included Anthony and Mayer or if it figures them to graduate. 

Based on their definition of prospect eligibility it looks like Mayer might graduate and Anthony could just fall short, but assuming they both do I'd figure something like this. Maybe if both Marcelo and Anthony graduate then Phillips or Eyanson sneaks in at 10 but regardless that's 7 of your top 10 prospects being pitchers.  The system is officially going to be pitcher heavy. 

Payton Tolle

Franklin Arias

Luis Perales

Jhostynxon Garcia

Kyson Witherspoon

James Tibbs

Brandon Clarke

Juan Valera

Connelly Early

David Sandlin

 

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Breslow's strategy to stockpile pitching in the draft could now make Tolle expendable as a major trade chip... if he's not called up to Boston soon as a power arm option for the bullpen.

The Red Sox selected 15 pitchers out of their 21 picks, and apparently the scouting department relied on Disneyland analytics: Must be at least 6'5" to ride to Fenway.

If all 15 drafted pitchers stood on each other's shoulders they might not be as high as the John Hancock Building -- but they'd tower over the new John Henry Building (as usual, under construction).

 

[sk7326]

2 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

It's really tough to say, beacuse the Soxprospects crew didn't specify if the projected rankings included Anthony and Mayer or if it figures them to graduate. 

Based on their definition of prospect eligibility it looks like Mayer might graduate and Anthony could just fall short, but assuming they both do I'd figure something like this. Maybe if both Marcelo and Anthony graduate then Phillips or Eyanson sneaks in at 10 but regardless that's 7 of your top 10 prospects being pitchers.  The system is officially going to be pitcher heavy. 

Payton Tolle

Franklin Arias

Luis Perales

Jhostynxon Garcia

Kyson Witherspoon

James Tibbs

Brandon Clarke

Juan Valera

Connelly Early

David Sandlin

 

 

I am pretty sure both Mayer and Anthony will burn their rookie eligibility - so removing them from the field I think is fair.  

[sk7326]

17 hours ago, Soxlover said:

Arias is such a great defender at a tough position that there is not much focus on doubts with his offense.

Jh Garcia is pretty damn good on D and can play CF or RF. Hes hit over .820 vs RHP the last 2 seasons

Garcia has done better with his swing decisions.  He still might not be a great OBP guy, but a plus RF with his power is still a totally reasonable starter if that can be actualized. 

[Hugh2]

14 minutes ago, sk7326 said:

I am pretty sure both Mayer and Anthony will burn their rookie eligibility - so removing them from the field I think is fair.  

Mayer definitely will, I thought it would be close for anthony but the Soxprospects definition is about 20 at bats lower than I thought.  He will likely get 30 at bats by the end of the month. 

[Hugh2]

2 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Breslow's strategy to stockpile pitching in the draft could now make Tolle expendable as a major trade chip... if he's not called up to Boston soon as a power arm option for the bullpen.

The Red Sox selected 15 pitchers out of their 21 picks, and apparently the scouting department relied on Disneyland analytics: Must be at least 6'5" to ride to Fenway.

If all 15 drafted pitchers stood on each other's shoulders they might not be as high as the John Hancock Building -- but they'd tower over the new John Henry Building (as usual, under construction).

 

I mean........I would like to see a homegrown ace, maybe we can hold off on our top end pitching talent for at least a year.  

 

I don't wanna see Tolle/Perales/Valera go.   Of course, it all depends on the return. 

[mvp 78]

15 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Portland relief pitcher troye released today! 

Need to make room for all the college guys they need to sign. 

[mvp 78]

5 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

It's really tough to say, beacuse the Soxprospects crew didn't specify if the projected rankings included Anthony and Mayer or if it figures them to graduate. 

Based on their definition of prospect eligibility it looks like Mayer might graduate and Anthony could just fall short, but assuming they both do I'd figure something like this. Maybe if both Marcelo and Anthony graduate then Phillips or Eyanson sneaks in at 10 but regardless that's 7 of your top 10 prospects being pitchers.  The system is officially going to be pitcher heavy. 

 

They said they are under the assumption that Anthony graduates prior to AUG. I believe only Witherspoon will crack the top 10 from what they've said. We're not going to see these guys or get a lot of reports until spring, so they may be more conservative with Phillips and Eyanson. 

[Larry Cook]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Need to make room for all the college guys they need to sign. 

Last year, we shut down the college pitchers after we signed them. I expect the same this year!!

[mvp 78]

26 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

Last year, we shut down the college pitchers after we signed them. I expect the same this year!!

Yes, but there is still a limit to the amount of guys they can have in the system. Reserve List is currently at 152 of 165. They need to probably release at least 5 more guys (prob non-Breslow pitchers like Rogers, Bolden, Bryant). 

The last day of the FCL regular season is 7/24. Guys from there will either be either moved to Salem or just scrimmage for the remainder of the year. 

[Soxlover]

One could also argue that some our everyday prospects poised to jump into the top 10 did not impress enough, this year, to jump or stay ahead of some pitchers that have looked real good.

Bleis, Cespedes and Castro 

Jordan and Romero jumped up but were too far behind to jump way up to top 5 or 10.

Gonzalez is a possibility. I’m higher on Jo Garcia than most, but hes too far away to be top 10.

Arias has fallen back some, while Jh Garcia is looking for real!

[moonslav59]

Here are some numbers to ponder:
DSL (small sample sizes)

1.154 Josue Brito

.875 Dorian Soto

.871 Franklin Primera

0.00 Wascar Berroa (9IP)

FCL

.963 Alexander Mambel

.837 Anderson Fermin

1.20 ERA Jose Bello (8IP), Jackson Gamboa 1.26 (14 IP), 1.57 Cordero (23 IP)

 

[Larry Cook]

7 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Yes, but there is still a limit to the amount of guys they can have in the system. Reserve List is currently at 152 of 165. They need to probably release at least 5 more guys (prob non-Breslow pitchers like Rogers, Bolden, Bryant). 

The last day of the FCL regular season is 7/24. Guys from there will either be either moved to Salem or just scrimmage for the remainder of the year. 

We definitely got some talented players coming in!!  

ButI would hate to kill a kid’s dream because of the reserve list!!!

hard decisions ahead for bres-slow!!!

[mvp 78]

13 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Here are some numbers to ponder:
DSL (small sample sizes)

1.154 Josue Brito

.875 Dorian Soto

.871 Franklin Primera

0.00 Wascar Berroa (9IP)

FCL

.963 Alexander Mambel

.837 Anderson Fermin

1.20 ERA Jose Bello (8IP), Jackson Gamboa 1.26 (14 IP), 1.57 Cordero (23 IP)

 

Not going to get hot and bothered over DSL and FCL numbers. Need to see these guys in SAL. We saw what happened with Cespedes and Bleis early on.

[mvp 78]

10 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

We definitely got some talented players coming in!!  

ButI would hate to kill a kid’s dream because of the reserve list!!!

hard decisions ahead for bres-slow!!!

SP guys think a lot of cuts from FCL.

[mvp 78]

Sox also released Luis Ravelo. Third highest IFA bonus in '21. All field, no hit MIF.

[Larry Cook]

9 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

SP guys think a lot of cuts from FCL.

The pitching in Salem and fort meyers is really bad!!!  Bottom of the barrel type stuff!!!

[moonslav59]

7 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

The pitching in Salem and fort meyers is really bad!!!  Bottom of the barrel type stuff!!!

These college kids will fill many slots, most likely in '26.

Some starters will be pen bound.