2025 Prospects

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Jordan

Monegro - TJS

Mullins

Paez

Sandlin

Three are protected and two are traded (maybe Monegro is left unprotected due to the TJS?). If any of the others are selected, it's not a big concern to me at this point. 

I meant to put Paez in BOLD. I did put Hickey and Drohan in BOLD, but do not think they will be protected. I doubt Monegro is, either.

I don't see a big roster crunch, this winter, but maybe that is based on my hopes that we spend all our winter budget on 2-3 players and not 4-5 or 6.

Mullins is a close call, to me.

I know Bleis is kinda far away, but you don't see any chance we protect him?

I can see us trading Jordan & Monegro.

[mvp 78]

30 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I meant to put Paez in BOLD. I did put Hickey and Drohan in BOLD, but do not think they will be protected. I doubt Monegro is, either.

I don't see a big roster crunch, this winter, but maybe that is based on my hopes that we spend all our winter budget on 2-3 players and not 4-5 or 6.

Mullins is a close call, to me.

I know Bleis is kinda far away, but you don't see any chance we protect him?

I can see us trading Jordan & Monegro.

It's more likely they trade Bleis than protect him. 

[moonslav59]

7 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It's more likely they trade Bleis than protect him. 

You think he'd be selected, if not protected?

We do have a pretty full OF, even 2 years from now, and Jh Garcia is in front of Bleis. (Cespedes and KC may end up in the OF, too.)

I could see Bleis included in a deadline trade.

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

You think he'd be selected, if not protected?

We do have a pretty full OF, even 2 years from now, and Jh Garcia is in front of Bleis. (Cespedes and KC may end up in the OF, too.)

I could see Bleis included in a deadline trade.

I don't know. It depends on how he's playing down the stretch. If he's OPSing under 800, probably not. 

[Larry Cook]

Red Sox have been mocked to draft Irish of suburb and move him full time to the outfield! We have a lot of outfield talent on the roster and in the upper minors!!!!!  

[Larry Cook]

Fir Worcester m: Jordan was 2 for 4 with 3 rbi tonight 

Garcia was 1 for 3 with a walk 

uberstine had a nice night on the mound. 
 

for Portland: 

Romero 2 for 4 with a tater. 
tibbs 2 for 5

castro 1  for 4 

ehrhard zero for 3 with a walk. 
song was 3 innings and gave up only a tater 

For Greenville: 

arias was zero for 3 

Rivera pitched a really good game tonight. Just 1 run on a tater given up 

For Salem: 

Gonzales 2 for 4 

Mussett zero for 3 with a walk. 

[moonslav59]

56 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

Fir Worcester m: Jordan was 2 for 4 with 3 rbi tonight 

Garcia was 1 for 3 with a walk 

uberstine had a nice night on the mound. 
 

for Portland: 

Romero 2 for 4 with a tater. 
tibbs 2 for 5

castro 1  for 4 

ehrhard zero for 3 with a walk. 
song was 3 innings and gave up only a tater 

For Greenville: 

arias was zero for 3 

Rivera pitched a really good game tonight. Just 1 run on a tater given up 

For Salem: 

Gonzales 2 for 4 

Mussett zero for 3 with a walk. 

Jordan has really proven me wrong. Wow!

Uberstine down to 2.45.

Tibbs got a couple hit for POR, too.

Bleis up to .773, now w 2B.

[Larry Cook]

I cannot believe how many pitchers got hurt from our minor league teams this year thus far!!!  
makes the performance of an uberstine stand out even more. 

[moonslav59]

Criswell might be pitching his way out of any chance of playing in BOS, again.

Campbell is 0-2, so far, while Grissom is 3 for 3 w a dinger (.766,) Jh Garcia is 1-2 w BB (.931.) Thompson and Rosier homered, too.

[moonslav59]

Romero homered and went 2-4, today (.828.) Don't look now, but Castro is up to .810.

Taylor is 2-3, so far in GRE, but they are losing 11-1. ('boro over 'ville)

Musset had 2 hits in SAL's 3-1 win.

[moonslav59]

It's interesting how our graduated prospect list has had about two significant players each year since 2021:

2021: Houck (DD) and Whitlock (Bloom via Rule 5)

2022: Duran (DD) and Crawford (DD) 

2023: Bello (DD) and Casas (DD)

2024: Rafaela (DD) and Slaten (Brez via trade/Rule 5)

2025: Narvaez (Brez via trade) and Campbell (Bloom)

It's strange that Brez & Bloom both have 2 names, but Anthony and Mayer are Bloom guys. (Dobbins & Arias, too.)

[Larry Cook]

14 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

It's interesting how our graduated prospect list has had about two significant players each year since 2021:

2021: Houck (DD) and Whitlock (Bloom via Rule 5)

2022: Duran (DD) and Crawford (DD) 

2023: Bello (DD) and Casas (DD)

2024: Rafaela (DD) and Slaten (Brez via trade/Rule 5)

2025: Narvaez (Brez via trade) and Campbell (Bloom)

It's strange that Brez & Bloom both have 2 names, but Anthony and Mayer are Bloom guys. (Dobbins & Arias, too.)

Hang’em Chaim is a beast at bringing in talented position players!!! But absolutely terrible with pitchers!!! 
hang’em Chaim is why we have a huge hole at the number 2 and number 3 spots in our current rotation!!!  

[moonslav59]

29 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

Hang’em Chaim is a beast at bringing in talented position players!!! But absolutely terrible with pitchers!!! 
hang’em Chaim is why we have a huge hole at the number 2 and number 3 spots in our current rotation!!!  

I can't disagree, and if the plan was to spend and trade for pitching, Bloom failed at that, too, mostly. He did get Whitlock via Rule 5, traded scraps for Pivetta and did sing Wacha, Strahm, Jansen and Martin, but the list of failures was 3-4 times longer.

I will add that we heard the same thing about DD's farm building, while he was trading away many of the higher ranked everyday players, but we ended up getting some value from the Houck's, Crawford's and Bello's of his underrated farm pitching staffs.

I kinda feel like guys like Dobbins may end up redeeming some of Bloom's legacy on pitching. Key word: "some." Others, like Early, Valera, Paez, Monegro, Guerrero, Mullins, Uberstine, Reyes and others will do what some of DD's hidden gems ended up doing.

Brez may end up getting more of the credit for "developing them."

IMO< we turned the corner on farm pitching. We've spent more on signing bonuses on drafted and IFA pitchers, since Brez took over. We drafted more pitching, and Brez has been trading for young pitchers, too. I'm not just talking about Crochet, either: he traded for Sandlin, Fitts, Weissert, Fajardo, Holobetz, Judice and J Bello. (I'm probably forgetting some, and he's just been here 2 years!_

[Larry Cook]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I can't disagree, and if the plan was to spend and trade for pitching, Bloom failed at that, too, mostly. He did get Whitlock via Rule 5, traded scraps for Pivetta and did sing Wacha, Strahm, Jansen and Martin, but the list of failures was 3-4 times longer.

I will add that we heard the same thing about DD's farm building, while he was trading away many of the higher ranked everyday players, but we ended up getting some value from the Houck's, Crawford's and Bello's of his underrated farm pitching staffs.

I kinda feel like guys like Dobbins may end up redeeming some of Bloom's legacy on pitching. Key word: "some." Others, like Early, Valera, Paez, Monegro, Guerrero, Mullins, Uberstine, Reyes and others will do what some of DD's hidden gems ended up doing.

Brez may end up getting more of the credit for "developing them."

IMO< we turned the corner on farm pitching. We've spent more on signing bonuses on drafted and IFA pitchers, since Brez took over. We drafted more pitching, and Brez has been trading for young pitchers, too. I'm not just talking about Crochet, either: he traded for Sandlin, Fitts, Weissert, Fajardo, Holobetz, Judice and J Bello. (I'm probably forgetting some, and he's just been here 2 years!_

Bres-slow’s main contribution to pitching appears to be getting pitchers to stop throwing 4 seam fastballs and instead throw breaking balls 

[Larry Cook]

Sandlin with a no hitter threw 5 innings 

[Larry Cook]

Hicks and Murphy looked rough today. 
 

Garcia with his 7th tater for Worcester 

[moonslav59]

5 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Bres-slow’s main contribution to pitching appears to be getting pitchers to stop throwing 4 seam fastballs and instead throw breaking balls 

That might be more on Bailey.

I see a major uptick in pitching being a high priority on the farm. I'm talking drafting them higher, drafting more of them, and paying them higher bonuses than we've seen our last few GMs do. Brez has given IFA pitchers more bonus money than we've seen in recent years. He's traded for pitching prospects and young pitchers, including older pitchers for younger ones, like Schreiber for Sandlin, Priester for Holebetz and Booser for Fajardo. He's trade a big package for Crochet, then extended him. He traded Verdugo for Fitts, Weissert and Judice. He traded Devers for 3 pitchers- 2 of then young.

Back to the draft: he drafted 12 pitchers in our first 16 picks in 2024, but almost more importantly, he gave a large percent of the bonus pool money to pitchers, including a few much higher slot money. Take a look at IFA bonus money. Our top pitcher bonuses were like $125M, and every now and then $200K or $300K. This year, we gave $500K to Delzine and $350K to Cordero, plus $100K to Montero.

We don't know, if all these kids will produce, but Brez has made a clear effort to effect a change for the good.

 

[moonslav59]

5 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Hicks and Murphy looked rough today. 
 

Garcia with his 7th tater for Worcester 

Garcia his his 8th later in the game! He's up to .992!

Rosier is on fire, too (.858 w a tater.)

Hickey homered and KC went 2-4 w a 2B and BB.

POR pitched a no hitter, as sandlin went 6 and Troye and Brand went the other 3. They won 10-0! They had 12 hits and 7 BBs. Ravelo went 2-3 w HR. Ferguson 3-3 w 2BB. Ehrhard 2-3 w 2B and 2BB.

GRE lost in 10, but Tolle pitched a gem: 6IP 5H, 1ER, 1BB & 9K. Sanasone went 3 I allowing 3 hits, 0 BBs and had 4 Ks- 1 ER. Arias and Brannon each had 2 hits- Bleis had 1 hit & 2BB and is now at .782.

SAL lost 6-4, but Azocar homered and Gonzalez had a 2B and 3B.

[Larry Cook]

20 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Garcia his his 8th later in the game! He's up to .992!

Rosier is on fire, too (.858 w a tater.)

Hickey homered and KC went 2-4 w a 2B and BB.

POR pitched a no hitter, as sandlin went 6 and Troye and Brand went the other 3. They won 10-0! They had 12 hits and 7 BBs. Ravelo went 2-3 w HR. Ferguson 3-3 w 2BB. Ehrhard 2-3 w 2B and 2BB.

 

GRE lost in 10, but Tolle pitched a gem: 6IP 5H, 1ER, 1BB & 9K. Sanasone went 3 I allowing 3 hits, 0 BBs and had 4 Ks- 1 ER. Arias and Brannon each had 2 hits- Bleis had 1 hit & 2BB and is now at .782.

SAL lost 6-4, but Azocar homered and Gonzalez had a 2B and 3B.

Tolle had 21 whiffs today!!!  Wow!!! Total domination!!!   the kid is ready for Portland. He is not being challenged at Greenville! Same with Rivera!!!!! 
 

sogard had an 18 pitch at bat today!!!!!  Wow!!!!

 

 

[moonslav59]

14 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

Tolle had 21 whiffs today!!!  Wow!!! Total domination!!!   the kid is ready for Portland. He is not being challenged at Greenville! Same with Rivera!!!!! 
sogard had an 18 pitch at bat today!!!!!  Wow!!!!

I think we see a bunch of promotions, soon.

[Larry Cook]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I think we see a bunch of promotions, soon.

I do not see many position players moving, but I see a few pitchers moving up to the next level! 
early and Tolle are most obvious

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

I do not see many position players moving, but I see a few pitchers moving up to the next level! 
early and Tolle are most obvious

5 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

I do not see many position players moving, but I see a few pitchers moving up to the next level! 
early and Tolle are most obvious

Maybe Romero or Ronald Rosario to AAA. I'm not sure they want to move Arias to AA, so soon & same with Bleis. Jo Garcia taking Rosario's catcher slot at AA might happen, later this year, but not soon.

Gonzales, Cespedes and Mussett may go to GRE, at some point.

I agree that more moves are likely with pitchers:

To AAA? Early, Sandlin or Mullins

To AA? Tolle, Rivera and maybe Holobetz

To GRE? Fajardo or Brooks?

D Reyes to SAL?

[Larry Cook]

2 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Maybe Romero or Ronald Rosario to AAA. I'm not sure they want to move Arias to AA, so soon & same with Bleis. Jo Garcia taking Rosario's catcher slot at AA might happen, later this year, but not soon.

Gonzales, Cespedes and Mussett may go to GRE, at some point.

I agree that more moves are likely with pitchers:

To AAA? Early, Sandlin or Mullins

To AA? Tolle, Rivera and maybe Holobetz

To GRE? Fajardo or Brooks?

D Reyes to SAL?

Justin Gonzales is only 18 years old so I think he stays at Salem all year!  I think they made a mistake by moving yophary to Greenville too soon! 
 

I watched mussett last year and he looked lost at the plate!!  This year, he looks completely different!!!  But he still misses too many middle in pitches to deserve a promotion in my opinion. Best to let him figure this out at Salem ! 
 

 

[moonslav59]

33 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

Justin Gonzales is only 18 years old so I think he stays at Salem all year!  I think they made a mistake by moving yophary to Greenville too soon! 
I watched mussett last year and he looked lost at the plate!!  This year, he looks completely different!!!  But he still misses too many middle in pitches to deserve a promotion in my opinion. Best to let him figure this out at Salem ! 

You know these guys better than I do.

[Larry Cook]

Just heard Rivera, Tolle and Brooks bannon all being promoted to Portland 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Larry Cook said:

Just heard Rivera, Tolle and Brooks bannon all being promoted to Portland 

Nice!

Brannon has been turning it up

[mvp 78]

18 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Bres-slow’s main contribution to pitching appears to be getting pitchers to stop throwing 4 seam fastballs and instead throw breaking balls 

Breslow is just hoarding pitching talent the way Bloom was hoarding hitting talent. It's why the pendulum is swinging the other way and the hitting is starting to look lighter. 

Breslow Pitchers: Sandlin, Tolle, Clarke, Cason, Holobetz, Aita

Breslow Hitters: Tibbs, Yophery

Traded Montgomery OF, Meidroth IF, Teel C, Gonzelez P for Crochet P

Only drafted 6 hitters last season and the only decent one left in the system is Zach Ehrhard POR 721 OPS.

[Larry Cook]

5 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Breslow is just hoarding pitching talent the way Bloom was hoarding hitting talent. It's why the pendulum is swinging the other way and the hitting is starting to look lighter. 

Breslow Pitchers: Sandlin, Tolle, Clarke, Cason, Holobetz, Aita

Breslow Hitters: Tibbs, Yophery

Traded Montgomery OF, Meidroth IF, Teel C, Gonzelez P for Crochet P

Only drafted 6 hitters last season and the only decent one left in the system is Zach Ehrhard POR 721 OPS.

There may be some degree of truth to this, after all, I think we drafted 24 pitchers in 2024! 
I do not know what bres-slow is planning for 2025’s draft, but I hear the Red Sox had a guy practically living at auburn this past year!!!! 
 

for what it is worth, Salem and fort Myers are almost completely bereft of anything resembling a quality starting pitcher!!!!!

I hear Clarke is recovering from his blister and could make a start this week!!!  

[moonslav59]

7 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Breslow is just hoarding pitching talent the way Bloom was hoarding hitting talent. It's why the pendulum is swinging the other way and the hitting is starting to look lighter. 

Breslow Pitchers: Sandlin, Tolle, Clarke, Cason, Holobetz, Aita

Breslow Hitters: Tibbs, Yophery

Traded Montgomery OF, Meidroth IF, Teel C, Gonzelez P for Crochet P

Only drafted 6 hitters last season and the only decent one left in the system is Zach Ehrhard POR 721 OPS.

Brez also traded for Fitts, Weissert & Judice. He traded for Harrison & J Bello. He traded for Fajardo. He traded for Priester, then flipped him for the guy you mentioned, Holobetz. Eduardo Rivera was added as a MiFA

Others Brez added via draft or IFA: Valera, Wehunt, Delzine, D Reyes & others.

[mvp 78]