5/22 SOX @ Rays 6:50PM ET

[vegasbob]

Fabulous sweep, SS. Bury the Rays in 4th place . Rays are lucky to have Toronto in the division.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

No game tomorrow. Enjoy your day off.

[vegasbob]

Here's another thing that came to mind. In both 1967 and 1975 the SOX lost the WS in 7 games. In '67 they entered the WS w/o Conigliaro, who was hit in the eye by a Jack Hamilton fast ball. In 1975 they entered the WS w/o Jim Rice, who was hit in the arm by a bad pitch. Both were major contributors in those respective years.

 

To me, with over 60 years of Red Sox baseball memories, the 1978 one game playoff with NYY featuring Bucky Dent and Yaz's last out was the absolute worst let down. How Dent hit Torrez's pitch while his foot was aching I don't know to this day. Yaz going down vs Gossage on a pop to Craig Nettles. was the end of the world. I asked Doyle about it, he said Yaz wasn't all that good

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Here's another thing that came to mind. In both 1967 and 1975 the SOX lost the WS in 7 games. In '67 they entered the WS w/o Conigliaro, who was hit in the eye by a Jack Hamilton fast ball. In 1975 they entered the WS w/o Jim Rice, who was hit in the arm by a bad pitch. Both were major contributors in those respective years.

 

Also in 1946, where the SOX again lost in 7, Ted Williams played in that series with an injured arm. Ted didn't bring this up until years later.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

To me, with over 60 years of Red Sox baseball memories, the 1978 one game playoff with NYY featuring Bucky Dent and Yaz's last out was the absolute worst let down. How Dent hit Torrez's pitch while his foot was aching I don't know to this day. Yaz going down vs Gossage on a pop to Craig Nettles. was the end of the world. I asked Doyle about it, he said Yaz wasn't all that good

 

If you remember during the long delay of Dent getting back to the plate, Torrez just stood on the mound, lollygagging, and didn't even throw one warm-up pitch.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

To me, with over 60 years of Red Sox baseball memories, the 1978 one game playoff with NYY featuring Bucky Dent and Yaz's last out was the absolute worst let down. How Dent hit Torrez's pitch while his foot was aching I don't know to this day. Yaz going down vs Gossage on a pop to Craig Nettles. was the end of the world. I asked Doyle about it, he said Yaz wasn't all that good

 

Btw, it wasn't f'ing Dent that beat the SOX, it was f'ing Lou Pinella.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

To me, with over 60 years of Red Sox baseball memories, the 1978 one game playoff with NYY featuring Bucky Dent and Yaz's last out was the absolute worst let down. How Dent hit Torrez's pitch while his foot was aching I don't know to this day. Yaz going down vs Gossage on a pop to Craig Nettles. was the end of the world. I asked Doyle about it, he said Yaz wasn't all that good

 

If you see Doyle again, ask him when his HOF induction is scheduled.

[moonslav59]

Big sweep.

 

Group effort.

[illinoisredsox]

Btw, it wasn't f'ing Dent that beat the SOX, it was f'ing Lou Pinella.

 

This

[illinoisredsox]

If you see Doyle again, ask him when his HOF induction is scheduled.

 

Him seeing Doyle again and being able to report the answer to that question would be quite a feat.

[moonslav59]

Something about watching this game really made me happy. It was more than just watching 8 runs score, and Bello getting his act together, after a bad pitch. It was more than just watching an errorless games that also had some very nice defensive plays made by an improving defense. It was more than just watching our pen come through, despite not seeming to have their best stuff. It was watching a full team effort, situational hitting and going with the pitch, and players coming through when we needed it.

 

It wasn't just one guy out there. It was a TEAM!

 

Now, if we could just bottled this up and open it up, every game, going forward.

[Old Red]

No game tomorrow. Enjoy your day off.

 

No game tonight? The C’s are the BIGGEST game in town. Go Celtics!

[Bellhorn04]

Btw, it wasn't f'ing Dent that beat the SOX, it was f'ing Lou Pinella.

 

This

 

It was both of the f***ers LOL. But yeah, the importance of Piniella's contributions would only be recognized by those who really pay attention.

[mvp 78]

Also in 1946, where the SOX again lost in 7, Ted Williams played in that series with an injured arm. Ted didn't bring this up until years later.

 

Smart to bring it up several years later when it can no longer be verified.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

It was both of the f***ers LOL. But yeah, the importance of Piniella's contributions would only be recognized by those who really pay attention.

 

Tried to get into a Ground Round to watch it on the big screen, but was too young... so watched every pitch on the edge of the couch, with a six-pack of Schlitz (won't say who bought).

 

Piniella made the lucky stab when Remy's liner came out of the sun, but if it got by him and the Sox won, have to admit Yankee fans would bemoaning bad luck until eternity.

 

The one everyone forgets is Piniella's running catch in the corner on an earlier drive by Lynn with two runners on -- why Lou was playing a lefty batter to pull vs. the best southpaw in the world that year still mystifies me...

[moonslav59]

Tried to get into a Ground Round to watch it on the big screen, but was too young... so watched every pitch on the edge of the couch, with a six-pack of Schlitz (won't say who bought).

 

Piniella made the lucky stab when Remy's liner came out of the sun, but if it got by him and the Sox won, have to admit Yankee fans would bemoaning bad luck until eternity.

 

The one everyone forgets is Piniella's running catch in the corner on an earlier drive by Lynn with two runners on -- why Lou was playing a lefty batter to pull vs. the best southpaw in the world that year still mystifies me...

 

Nice memory for such a young sprout!

 

There were so many "what ifs" in that classic game.

 

I really thought we had the better team, on paper, that year, but as so many Sox teams did for decades upon decades, we came up just short.

[notin]

Btw, it wasn't f'ing Dent that beat the SOX, it was f'ing Lou Pinella.

 

The Dent and Pinella highlights have been played to death, but no one ever talks about Reggie Jackson, whose home run was the actual difference in that game…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

The Dent and Pinella highlights have been played to death, but no one ever talks about Reggie Jackson, whose home run was the actual difference in that game…

 

That's because just typing the words Bob Stan- can't do it - gives fans PTSD.

[notin]

That's because just typing the words Bob Stan- can't do it - gives fans PTSD.

 

He got beat by a Hall of Famer.

 

That game never happens without the season Stanley had. How many pitchers get 13 wins in relief in one season? While leading the team in saves as well?

[Bellhorn04]

The Dent and Pinella highlights have been played to death, but no one ever talks about Reggie Jackson, whose home run was the actual difference in that game…

 

"Actual difference" - not buying it.

 

I mean, I'd gladly leave the Jackson home run in and take the Dent home run out.

[Bellhorn04]

Poor Stanley had a role in both the 1978 playoff game and 1986 Game 6.

[Bellhorn04]

Thankfully I survived the 26 years between 1978 and 2004 and saw Dent throw out the first pitch in ALCS Game 7 followed by a 10-3 Sox win.

[mvp 78]

Poor Stanley had a role in both the 1978 playoff game and 1986 Game 6.

 

Schiraldi had 2 outs and then gave up 3 straight hits. Maybe trying to get more than 2 innings out of him wasn't a great idea? If McNamara went to the Steamer for a clean inning, maybe they win it?

[Bellhorn04]

Schiraldi had 2 outs and then gave up 3 straight hits. Maybe trying to get more than 2 innings out of him wasn't a great idea? If McNamara went to the Steamer for a clean inning, maybe they win it?

 

Schiraldi had 2 blown saves in that game! Crazy.

[moonslav59]

Thankfully I survived the 26 years between 1978 and 2004 and saw Dent throw out the first pitch in ALCS Game 7 followed by a 10-3 Sox win.

 

I went from '72 to '04, and I was wondering if I'd ever see glory.

[notin]

"Actual difference" - not buying it.

 

I mean, I'd gladly leave the Jackson home run in and take the Dent home run out.

 

It was the fifth run in a 5-4 game. It didn’t feel so important at the time, but it wound up being the difference. But it’s never had the proper significance attached to it…

[notin]

Schiraldi had 2 blown saves in that game! Crazy.

 

A pitcher can’t get two blown saves in one game. Unless you go play a position for an inning while your team retained the lead.

 

Once he blew the first save, he was in line for a win or loss…

[Maxbialystock]

I went from '72 to '04, and I was wondering if I'd ever see glory.

 

I went from '49 to '04, but with a giant caveat. I only lived in Massachusetts for 6 months when I was born and later, 1953-54, when I was in 8th and 9th grades. Those 16 months made me a fanatic, but for the next 45 years I rarely could even watch a Sox game on TV. When I lived in OK, I was an Astros fan and listened to their games on radio. In PA, a Phillies fan. In VA, an Orioles fan of sorts. In NY, a basketball fan (Knicks when they won their two NBA titles with Bill Bradley, Frasier, Monroe, Debusschere, and Reed). In KS, I went to Royals games. Finally, circa 2001, I got satellite cable and could watch Sox games.

 

So, very frankly, I definitely didn't suffer much during the 86 year drought. However, I also missed every bit of the 1967 season because I was very busy overseas. Same for the 1975 season--and 1986.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

He got beat by a Hall of Famer.

 

That game never happens without the season Stanley had. How many pitchers get 13 wins in relief in one season? While leading the team in saves as well?

 

Another guy did in the two years right before '78 -- for two different teams -- including one for the Red Sox in '77, when he also led the league in saves...

 

... and won 30 games in '76-77, all in relief! It makes more sense, in a way, because he also led the majors in games finished in those two seasons with 144.

 

And then... Soup Campbell was oyster crackers.

 

Managers just left him on boil for too damn long. Zimmer shoulda let him simmer.

[dgalehouse]

Schiraldi gave up three straight clean singles. With any luck , one of them would have been at somebody and been caught. He would have been a hero. That's baseball. A lot of randomness and luck involved.