Red Sox ownership

[notin]

I'm not sure about the "should" part, but I get it.

 

Why not count reach on error as getting on base, then? He stepped up and got on base.

 

I think the goal of OBP and BA and SLG is to pretend it’s all about the hitter.

 

But then why does getting thrown out at 2b trying to stretch a single into a double count as being on base? You’re not. You’re out…

[moonslav59]

I think the goal of OBP and BA and SLG is to pretend it’s all about the hitter.

 

But then why does getting thrown out at 2b trying to stretch a single into a double count as being on base? You’re not. You’re out…

 

There will always be gray areas on everything.

 

In your scenario, the guy did get on base. Din g him for baserunning skills not OB skills.

 

On Sac bunts: the batter is being told to make an out. Somehow, that should not hurt his OBP, if he did what he was told to do, well. Some hitters are nver asked to bunt sac.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

President Sam said this yesterday: "This is a responsibility, a stewardship by John [Henry], Tom [Werner] and Mike [Gordon] to do everything they can to put a winning, great product on the field, and that will continue in 2024 and beyond.”

 

Can't wait until Andrew Bailey teaches new grips to John, Tom and Mike -- and makes them all 20-game whippers.

[Bellhorn04]

President Sam said this yesterday: "This is a responsibility, a stewardship by John [Henry], Tom [Werner] and Mike [Gordon] to do everything they can to put a winning, great product on the field, and that will continue in 2024 and beyond.”

 

Can't wait until Andrew Bailey teaches new grips to John, Tom and Mike -- and makes them all 20-game whippers.

 

Sam is just too much.

[jad]

President Sam said this yesterday: "This is a responsibility, a stewardship by John [Henry], Tom [Werner] and Mike [Gordon] to do everything they can to put a winning, great product on the field, and that will continue in 2024 and beyond.”

 

Can't wait until Andrew Bailey teaches new grips to John, Tom and Mike -- and makes them all 20-game whippers.

 

I especially like the "continue" part ...

[moonslav59]

I especially like the "continue" part ...

 

He should have said, "starting in 2025 and continuing...," but even that might not be true.

[Bellhorn04]

He should have said, "starting in 2025 and continuing...," but even that might not be true.

 

Or "there will come a day" which is what he said about spending big on free agents again...

[mvp 78]

President Sam said this yesterday: "This is a responsibility, a stewardship by John [Henry], Tom [Werner] and Mike [Gordon] to do everything they can to put a winning, great product on the field, and that will continue in 2024 and beyond.”

 

Can't wait until Andrew Bailey teaches new grips to John, Tom and Mike -- and makes them all 20-game whippers.

 

Who the f*** is Mike Gordon?

[mvp 78]

Or "there will come a day" which is what he said about spending big on free agents again...

 

That dude is just ridiculous.

[notin]

Who the f*** is Mike Gordon?

 

Bass player in Phish…

[mvp 78]

MICHAEL GORDON

PRESIDENT

Mike Gordon is the President of Fenway Sports Group and has been a partner since 2001. In his role with Fenway Sports Group, Mr. Gordon has been primarily responsible for managing the operations of Liverpool FC, among his many other responsibilities.

 

Mr. Gordon is a seasoned investor with over 30 years of experience. He formerly served as a Managing Partner of Vinik Asset Management LLC, a Boston-based investment firm that he co-founded in 1996 and led as co-CEO. Prior to that, Mr. Gordon spent nine years at Fidelity Investments as a research analyst and portfolio manager of the Blue Chip Growth Fund.

 

New minor character just dropped!

[Old Red]

JH seems to have turned into an WWE character. Gone from hero to a villain, and appears to like playing his newer role.

[Bellhorn04]

JH seems to have turned into an WWE character. Gone from hero to a villain, and appears to like playing his newer role.

 

Yeah, that's not a bad way to put it.

[Randy Red Sox]

Yeah, that's not a bad way to put it.

 

hey but we got the 14th best farm system out of 30 and behind every team in our division except the Blue Jays and have one ONLY 1 of our top prospects being a P.

[mvp 78]

JH seems to have turned into an WWE character. Gone from hero to a villain, and appears to like playing his newer role.

 

He’s a repeat of the Anonymous Raw GM character. You never see them, but you hear what is dictated down.

[notin]

hey but we got the 14th best farm system out of 30 and behind every team in our division except the Blue Jays and have one ONLY 1 of our top prospects being a P.

 

It was 30th out of 30 four years ago.

 

14th might not excite you, but it is a massive step up…

[Bellhorn04]

It was 30th out of 30 four years ago.

 

14th might not excite you, but it is a massive step up…

 

Plus it's ranked higher by other sources, correct?

[mvp 78]

Plus it's ranked higher by other sources, correct?

 

It’s due to the paucity of pitching talent. A good year from guys on the farm could bump the rankings up.

[notin]

Plus it's ranked higher by other sources, correct?

 

Yeah. That type of thing rarely has sources that are exactly. Most people don’t even understand what they are ranking, myself included…

[Bellhorn04]

It’s due to the paucity of pitching talent. A good year from guys on the farm could bump the rankings up.

 

The lack of pitching was why Keith Law was downgrading our system. But this year he bumped us up to #8.

[mvp 78]

The lack of pitching was why Keith Law was downgrading our system. But this year he bumped us up to #8.

 

10th wouldn’t be a big shock to me. Mayer lost a year. Bleis lost a year. Yorke fell back. No pitching.

[Randy Red Sox]

It was 30th out of 30 four years ago.

 

14th might not excite you, but it is a massive step up…

 

my issue is two-fold. 1] I had been reading that our system was ranked somewhere from 4-6th? and 2} that Henry seems to think that Sox fans will remain content to be in the mushy middle. Never bad enough for a rebuild but never good enough to truly compete.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

It was 30th out of 30 four years ago.

 

14th might not excite you, but it is a massive step up…

 

Henry's front office of agriculture: slash and burn the big league club to build back the farm.

 

I know, it's so cliche (almost as cliche as cliche).

 

But maybe in this year's draft, if everything goes just left, the Red Sox can pick high enough to get someone good enough to truly turn their org around -- like a Rutschman... or maybe Holliday, Skenes, etc.

[jad]

Are we really celebrating the fact that, while the major league club heads for yet another last-place finish, the farm has risen to the level of mediocrity??

[moonslav59]

my issue is two-fold. 1] I had been reading that our system was ranked somewhere from 4-6th? and 2} that Henry seems to think that Sox fans will remain content to be in the mushy middle. Never bad enough for a rebuild but never good enough to truly compete.

 

I don’t think a single poster or article said 4th to 6th. Why not go back and delete that post.

[moonslav59]

Henry's front office of agriculture: slash and burn the big league club to build back the farm.

 

I know, it's so cliche (almost as cliche as cliche).

 

But maybe in this year's draft, if everything goes just left, the Red Sox can pick high enough to get someone good enough to truly turn their org around -- like a Rutschman... or maybe Holliday, Skenes, etc.

 

Or maybe an Anthony or Teel!

[Bellhorn04]

Are we really celebrating the fact that, while the major league club heads for yet another last-place finish, the farm has risen to the level of mediocrity??

 

Not really seeing any champagne toasts proposed.

[notin]

Henry's front office of agriculture: slash and burn the big league club to build back the farm.

 

I know, it's so cliche (almost as cliche as cliche).

 

But maybe in this year's draft, if everything goes just left, the Red Sox can pick high enough to get someone good enough to truly turn their org around -- like a Rutschman... or maybe Holliday, Skenes, etc.

 

Why do Holliday and Skenes get credit for turning their organizations around already? What have these guys done that Teel and Anthony haven’t?

[notin]

Are we really celebrating the fact that, while the major league club heads for yet another last-place finish, the farm has risen to the level of mediocrity??

 

No one has said that. Don’t be the guy who blames the rest of the world for not being as negative as you want them to be…

[moonslav59]

Not really seeing any champagne toasts proposed.

 

The thing is, a last place finish in the ALE can be mediocrity, and our farm has consistently been ranked top 10, which most feel is above mediocrity, for what that is worth.

 

Certainly nothing to celebrate.