Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations

[mvp 78]

You're looking to go 2023 Texas Rangers.

 

deGrom

Eovaldi

Heaney

 

Scherzer

Montgomery

 

And the 2 big stars in that 5 did virtually nothing!

 

DeGrom and Heaney were likely going to not pitch up to their deals. That rotation has lots of volatility.

[sk7326]

4 of those 5 starters had ERAs over 4.50.

 

Richards and Perez were banished to the pen.

 

The top 3 starters in particular had solid FIP/ERA gaps. Rodriguez in particular got very little help from the defense. In 2023, there was basically nothing reliable - the closest was Bello and he was more "promising" than anything.

[notin]

Our rotation numbers...

 

2023

4.68 ERA/ .766 OPS Against

 

2022

4.49/.763

 

2021

4.49/.763 (not a typo- exact same as 2021)

 

2020

5.34/.861

 

2019

4.95/.781 (worse than any year after 2020.)

 

2018

3.77/.697

 

 

 

So the AL runner up rotation in 2021 pitched identically to the last place rotation of 2022?

[moonslav59]

The top 3 starters in particular had solid FIP/ERA gaps. Rodriguez in particular got very little help from the defense. In 2023, there was basically nothing reliable - the closest was Bello and he was more "promising" than anything.

 

I'm not saying '23 was close to '21- just that '21 was not all that good.

 

We've had no good rotation since 2018.

[moonslav59]

So the AL runner up rotation in 2021 pitched identically to the last place rotation of 2022?

 

ERA and OPS Against, yes.

 

Freaky, huh?

 

I have mentioned how I thought Bloom's rotation additions were better in '22 than '21:

 

Wacha & Hill

vs

Richards & Perez

 

Let's hope 2024's blows both away.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

So the AL runner up rotation in 2021 pitched identically to the last place rotation of 2022?

 

The big problem in '22 -- according to interundisciplinary typists on talksox exit polls -- was the bullpen. Remember, a big reason the '21 Sox got in the hunt early for the playoffs was that Barnes and Whitlock threw like first-half All-Star relievers.

 

A big problem in '23 -- according to Doominati, Red Sox stakeholders and stockholders -- was that the CBO who built the '22 rotation decided not to keep it together and instead watched his top two starters go win 31 games for other clubs.

[moonslav59]

The big problem in '22 -- according to interundisciplinary typists on talksox exit polls -- was the bullpen. Remember, a big reason the '21 Sox got in the hunt early for the playoffs was that Barnes and Whitlock threw like first-half All-Star relievers.

 

A big problem in '23 -- according to Doominati, Red Sox stakeholders and stockholders -- was that the CBO who built the '22 rotation decided not to keep it together and instead watched his top two starters go win 31 games for other clubs.

 

In short, they robbed Peter to pay Paul.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

In short, they robbed Peter to pay Paul.

 

And Mary left on a jet plane.

[moonslav59]

And Mary left on a jet plane.

 

While puffing on a magic dragon.

[mvp 78]

@tylermilliken_

Late last night, Andrew Bailey was reported to be nearing a an agreement with the Red Sox to be their new pitching coach, per

@Ken_Rosenthal

.

 

Since joining the Giants in 2020, he’s received a lot of credit alongside Brian Bannister for the pitching lab they’ve formulated. Kevin Gausman and Carlos Rodon got paid in a big way after huge seasons underneath him. Logan Webb has become one of the better pitchers in baseball.

 

Speaks to his reputation that he got an interview for the Yankees bench coach opening.

 

Gotta give him the right ingredients to work with, but he should have no problem instilling Craig Breslow’s vision at the big league level. Communication should be strong.

[mvp 78]

@egohii

Giants ranks in FIP under Bailey

 

23: 4th

22: 2nd

21: 2nd

20: 15th

[mvp 78]

@alexspeier

Source confirms that the Sox are indeed nearing an agreement with Andrew Bailey as pitching coach. Bailey and Craig Breslow spent five years as teammates with the A’s and Red Sox, and the two are extremely close.

[vegasbob]

@alexspeier

Source confirms that the Sox are indeed nearing an agreement with Andrew Bailey as pitching coach. Bailey and Craig Breslow spent five years as teammates with the A’s and Red Sox, and the two are extremely close.

 

It is interesting to see how the sub-manager coaching positions have become the FO's business. Bailey does sound like his approach to getting MLB performances out of throwers has had success in SF. What does Cora think ? Does Bailey work for Breslow or AC ?

[sk7326]

It is interesting to see how the sub-manager coaching positions have become the FO's business. Bailey does sound like his approach to getting MLB performances out of throwers has had success in SF. What does Cora think ? Does Bailey work for Breslow or AC ?

 

To a degree. I mean Theo did the same when he was here. This doesn't mean that the manager did not have input before hiring. But arguably the manager's biggest job is making the coaching staff work.

[mvp 78]

It is interesting to see how the sub-manager coaching positions have become the FO's business. Bailey does sound like his approach to getting MLB performances out of throwers has had success in SF. What does Cora think ? Does Bailey work for Breslow or AC ?

 

If Cora was picking before, it sure didn't work!

[dgalehouse]

It is understandable that a new boss would want to have some familiar and friendly faces around. And Bailey does seem capable. No problem here.

[mvp 78]

And some people on here were saying the CBO wouldn't have any say and would defer to Alex..........

[notin]

And some people on here were saying the CBO wouldn't have any say and would defer to Alex..........

 

Alex have him a Hall Pass to hire one coach. One. All other hirings will go through and subsequently be approved or rejected by Cora…

[Old Red]

And some people on here were saying the CBO wouldn't have any say and would defer to Alex..........

 

I don’t believe anyone said that the CBO wouldn’t have ANY say, and would defer to Alex. S T R E T C H.

[Old Red]

If Cora was picking before, it sure didn't work!

 

I know it had to be the coaches fault that the team has sucked for the last two years. Bush couldn’t teach the guys how to pitch, and Febles couldn’t teach how to play D even with some help from Cora.

[jad]

I know it had to be the coaches fault that the team has sucked for the last two years. Bush couldn’t teach the guys how to pitch, and Febles couldn’t teach how to play D even with some help from Cora.

 

Totally agree. All that getting rid of their best players and replacing them with journeymen had nothing to do with it.

[Old Red]

Tom, and Sam said it’s just a perception, and a narrative that there has been a lot of turnover at the top of baseball ops the last ten years, and there were lot of candidates that contacted the Red Sox this year that people didn’t hear about despite the 12 who wouldn’t even talk to the Sox including an in-house employee. Spinning, and grinning at its best.

[notin]

Tom, and Sam said it’s just a perception, and a narrative that there has been a lot of turnover at the top of baseball ops the last ten years, and there were lot of candidates that contacted the Red Sox this year that people didn’t hear about despite the 12 who wouldn’t even talk to the Sox including an in-house employee. Spinning, and grinning at its best.

 

To be fair, the narrative we keep repeating on here that Henry fires the man running the show every four year is actually false…

[Old Red]

To be fair, the narrative we keep repeating on here that Henry fires the man running the show every four year is actually false…

 

Perception is everything.

[notin]

Perception is everything.

 

… except reality. Especially perception on this board. Do we really think we have a pulse on what goes on inside the Inner Circle of MLB owners and executives? Or that anyone turned down the Sox overture because of “something [he] read on Talksox”?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

… except reality. Especially perception on this board. Do we really think we have a pulse on what goes on inside the Inner Circle of MLB owners and executives? Or that anyone turned down the Sox overture because of “something [he] read on Talksox”?

 

No sense in trying to make this board more important than it it. That's lowercase talksox.com, dammit.

 

And posters here are always suggesting dumb ideas the Sox always ignore... like make deadline trades for Montgomery and Sutton, and if you care more about the prospects, then maximize Paxton's value before he gets hurt again!

[notin]

No sense in trying to make this board more important than it it. That's lowercase talksox.com, dammit.

 

And posters here are always suggesting dumb ideas the Sox always ignore... like make deadline trades for Montgomery and Sutton, and if you care more about the prospects, then maximize Paxton's value before he gets hurt again!

 

I rue the day we passed on Mike Montgomery and Drew Sutton!

[Bellhorn04]

Tom, and Sam said it’s just a perception, and a narrative that there has been a lot of turnover at the top of baseball ops the last ten years, and there were lot of candidates that contacted the Red Sox this year that people didn’t hear about despite the 12 who wouldn’t even talk to the Sox including an in-house employee. Spinning, and grinning at its best.

 

So what do they call canning Dombrowski and Bloom?

 

Normal staff attrition?

[notin]

So what do they call canning Dombrowski and Bloom?

 

Normal staff attrition?

 

But our story that Henry fires his exec every 4 years is really an exaggeration. He’s done it twice…

[Bellhorn04]

But our story that Henry fires his exec every 4 years is really an exaggeration. He’s done it twice…

 

Every 4 years the head of ops departs, is that better?

 

Henry didn't fire Ben, but I don't think it would be accurate to say he had nothing to do with Ben leaving...