Predict the next front office

[notin]

No more damn rescues! Bloom is history.

 

Bring in some purebreds -- and not from a puppy mill!

 

Do not dismiss Cupcake based on his upbringing!

[moonslav59]

I'll send moon over to give you a paddling. Maybe you two can get it out of your systems.

 

Keep stirring the pot.

[moonslav59]

I thought it was a bad idea to fire someone in your organization if you had no clue as to who you would replace them with.

 

I think that happens more often than not, across all major sports teams.

[Hugh2]

I think that happens more often than not, across all major sports teams.

 

It probably does but it’s certainly not the greatest ideal always. Business needs continuity and unless someone is doing something criminal or damaging to your business with malice it often makes sense to have a replacement first.

 

I’m a business owner. There are certain positions that are very vital to my business and I can’t afford much down time. If I know I’m letting said person go, I’m looking for their replacement first. Then when I find them I’m firing.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I thought it was a bad idea to fire someone in your organization if you had no clue as to who you would replace them with.

 

Or divorce a spouse...

[Hugh2]

Or divorce a spouse...

 

Staying single after my marriage ended was the greatest thing I ever did. Of course, technically I was the one who was fired so….

[Bellhorn04]

Sabean? Ooooh risky.

 

CBO: Ng

 

GM: Romero

 

CBO: Kim Ng

 

GM: mvp78

 

New Mgr: Cupcake, a German Shepherd-Border Collie mutt from a Fort Myers area rescue shelter

 

Ng turned down an interview.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Ng turned down an interview.

 

Sam must be offended that so many MLB execs aren't "here to win championships."

[Bellhorn04]

Sam must be offended that so many MLB execs aren't "here to win championships."

 

There sure are a lot of qualified people who don't seem to appreciate the opportunity that's being presented!

 

Sam's blustery bravado is not aging well.

 

A clear message has been delivered by a pretty large number of declining candidates. Henry has richly earned this mistrust.

[Bellhorn04]

And the argument that a lot of people will be interested because the pay's good is not holding up well at all here...

 

Seems like a lot of these folks don't care only about the dough.

[Old Red]

Ng turned down an interview.

 

Good for her. She saw a s*** show happening In Miami, and saw a s*** show in Boston, and gave them both the finger. She is probably the most qualified too.

[Old Red]

And the argument that a lot of people will be interested because the pay's good is not holding up well at all here...

 

Seems like a lot of these folks don't care only about the dough.

 

It’s not a good look for the Red Sox, and it shows how the Red Sox are viewed throughout MLB. It’s not AWESOME.

Edited October 21, 2023 by Old Red

[Bellhorn04]

It’s not a good look for the Red Sox, and it shows how the Red Sox are viewed throughout MLB.

 

It does. There's no way around it any more.

 

It doesn't mean we're doomed, but it's definitely a real thing.

[mvp 78]

Ownership has to do work to get rid of the s*** stains they left on the living room rug.

[Randy Red Sox]

i'll send moon over to give you a paddling. Maybe you two can get it out of your systems.

 

beautiful

[mvp 78]

Ng turned down an interview.

 

She didn’t want to work with me!

[Old Red]

Ownership has to do work to get rid of the s*** stains they left on the living room rug.

 

Sam is good at trying to polish a turd, but this s*** stain is a big one, and will be hard to get rid of.

[Randy Red Sox]

Ownership has to do work to get rid of the s*** stains they left on the living room rug.

 

i have been saying for a long time now that Henry is the real problem in particular his current ideals and philosophy. I actually got kicked off another forum for simply voicing my displeasure with both Bloom and especially Henry. I wonder what those members are thinking these days. I am betting Bloom is actually a much better gM/exec than we ever got to see as he was likely hamstrung from Henry's orders. I'd love to hear both DD and Bloom speak openly about how it was to work under this guy.

[notin]

She didn’t want to work with me!

 

But she was interested in working with Cupcake…

[Old Red]

After more rejections than a door to door salesman SI is theorizing that the job has come down to two people Breslow, or Levine with Fast Eddie moving up to GM. s***, or get off the pot already.

[dgalehouse]

After more rejections than a door to door salesman SI is theorizing that the job has come down to two people Breslow, or Levine with Fast Eddie moving up to GM. s***, or get off the pot already.

 

It's an important decision. They need to get it right this time.

[Bellhorn04]

The options are much slimmer than Sammy Boy expected!

 

The "Thanks but no thanks" message was redirected back at him.

[Old Red]

It's an important decision. They need to get it right this time.

 

I think the field of candidates is a lot smaller than they figured it would be. Didn’t Sam The Sham say Boston would be the place you wold want to be? For some reason it doesn’t appear to be that way.

[Old Red]

The options are much slimmer than Sammy Boy expected!

 

The "Thanks but no thanks" message was redirected back at him.

 

The Henry, and Bloom Clown Shown have set the franchise back in more ways than one. On the field, and off the field.Maybe JH should go on the Felger, and Mazz show again, and tell his side of the story.

Edited October 21, 2023 by Old Red

[dgalehouse]

I think the field of candidates is a lot smaller than they figured it would be. Didn’t Sam The Sham say Boston would be the place you wold want to be? For some reason it doesn’t appear to be that way.

 

It's hard to figure. Even with all of the known complaints, to me it still seems like an attractive job. It would not take all that much to make this team a contender. It is very obvious what is needed. The new guy just has to make a few good moves and he will be a hero.

[moonslav59]

i have been saying for a long time now that Henry is the real problem in particular his current ideals and philosophy. I actually got kicked off another forum for simply voicing my displeasure with both Bloom and especially Henry. I wonder what those members are thinking these days. I am betting Bloom is actually a much better gM/exec than we ever got to see as he was likely hamstrung from Henry's orders. I'd love to hear both DD and Bloom speak openly about how it was to work under this guy.

 

It's hard to know what "mandate," top priorities or guidelines were put in place by Henry. We may never find out.

 

We've all hear the don't sign and over 30 pitcher to a long term deal one, enough times, and that was lifted for DD to sign Price.

We can guess the choices to reset the budget, every so often, came from JH.

The massive budget cut from 2019 to 2020, which came right after the extensions handed out to Sale, Bogey and Nate seemed like a JH mandate, which forced the trade of Betts, 1/2 Price with no in kind replacements for them or the departing Porcello. (The winter before, there was no in kind replacements for Kimbrell and Kelly, either.)

 

Henry has gone through some periods of cut spending, before. This is not brand new. Going almost 5 years is new, though.

 

Years we stayed under the tax line under JH:

2008-2009 (3yrs) Theo

2012-2014 (3yrs) Ben

2017 (1 yr) DD

2020-2021 (2 yrs) Bloom

2023 (1 yr) Bloom

 

Theo 3 out of 10 yrs

Ben 3 out of 4

DD 1 out of 4

Bloom 3 out of 4

 

Total: 10 out of 22 years

 

 

 

[Old Red]

It's hard to figure. Even with all of the known complaints, to me it still seems like an attractive job. It would not take all that much to make this team a contender. It is very obvious what is needed. The new guy just has to make a few good moves and he will be a hero.

 

Bloom has set the bar pretty low, so it won’t take much to raise it hopefully an arm, or two.

[Hugh2]

The more I think about it, the more they should hire from within. There’s a lot of guys deserving who if not giving this chance will likely end up elsewhere over the next few years.

 

At least one of the two positions should be filled within. And it might just so happen that person could be among some of the best for the position.

[moonslav59]

I think the new regime will be set up pretty nicely:

 

No huge albatross contracts.

Sale's deal ending after 2024- along with the aged Jansen & Martin.

It's hard to know what the next few winter spending budgets will be, and that might be the defining aspect for the early years of the next regime.

 

The farm appears to be much stronger, and we've already seen a bunch of young players making or starting to make an impact.

The addition of some quality Rule 5 protectees should make the 40 man roster look as solid as it has in 4-5 years.

The 26 man roster appears to have 2-3 major holes (SP1, SP2 and big RHB) and maybe 2-3 minor holes (SP4, LH RP and maybe 2B/CF, whichever is not filled by the "big RHB.")

 

The PR front needs serious attention and improvement, but if the plan is to keep "saving money" for another year or two, even telling the truth, for once, won't likely help much.

 

The next GM/HOBO needs to hit squarely on his big moves. That is not something the odds support. We may need some luck or some major bouncebacks from guys like Sale, Story, Houck, Whitlock, Dugo and or Urias.

 

If we can fill 3-4 slots with positive value players, we may not need everything to go right to make the playoffs. To win it all, we likely will need that to happen.

[Hugh2]

A lot of these leaks could be the Sox getting a feel for people. A decision could be made within a week. They’ve already interviewed close to a dozen people, and that’s who we know about.