Red Sox: Off Season '23-'24

[mvp 78]

exactly. i'd love it if some team was dumb enough to take him and his full salary for nuthin and use that money to sign Snell or Monty.

 

That would be a horrible downgrade for the Sox. Replace an everyday AS caliber 3B for either a pitcher that typically can't go 130 innings or a guy everyone thought was a 3rd starter prior to the playoffs last year.

[mvp 78]

I hope the Boston does not try Devers at first. I firmly believe Devers has the ability to be a gold glove third baseman. His problem is primarily he rushes his throws.

Secondly he is too short for first. The MLB average is 6ft 2. Devers is about 6ft. I think the foot work required at first would frustrate him.

 

Thirdly of all the issues facing the Red Sox Devers defense at third is hardly the reason they only won 78 games last year.

Once everything else is sorted out then the Sox can focus on Devers defense if they wish.

 

Also, Casas was fine at 1B in the second half. Why start experimenting now? If you're going to move Raffy, just push him to LF fulltime IMO.

[mvp 78]

Shifting across the diamond is not as easy as y'all are making it out to be, in general, and it's even harder for a player that's not particularly tall.

 

It's easy if every player is just a cell in a spreadsheet!

[Bellhorn04]

That would be a horrible downgrade for the Sox. Replace an everyday AS caliber 3B for either a pitcher that typically can't go 130 innings or a guy everyone thought was a 3rd starter prior to the playoffs last year.

 

Pretty sure he meant Yoshida.

[Old Red]

Also, Casas was fine at 1B in the second half. Why start experimenting now? If you're going to move Raffy, just push him to LF fulltime IMO.

 

Maybe Manny could come in, and teach Raffy how to play the Green Monsta.

[mvp 78]

Pretty sure he meant Yoshida.

 

Nobody is taking on that contract and it's not enough of a salary dump for the Sox to bring in Monty or Snell anyway.

 

Maybe he has a big year and they can dump him in the offseason?

[Bellhorn04]

Nobody is taking on that contract and it's not enough of a salary dump for the Sox to bring in Monty or Snell anyway.

 

Supposedly we're about $40 M under the first tax threshold as it is. Payroll room should not be an impediment to signing Monty or Snell. "The price is too high" certainly could be, of course.

[mvp 78]

Supposedly we're about $40 M under the first tax threshold as it is. Payroll room should not be an impediment to signing Monty or Snell. "The price is too high" certainly could be, of course.

 

The price will always be too high going forward. The Sox will always believe the market value is more than what it should be. Henry is still stuck on Moneyball, a theory that produced zero WS titles in its homeland.

[Dipre]

No thanks on Snell though.

[mvp 78]

No thanks on Snell though.

 

It would be the worst possible outcome. I don't think there's a chance though. It's more "interest kings" type nonsense.

[Duran Is The Man]

That would be a horrible downgrade for the Sox. Replace an everyday AS caliber 3B for either a pitcher that typically can't go 130 innings or a guy everyone thought was a 3rd starter prior to the playoffs last year.

 

i meant getting rid of Yoshida not Raffy. sorry for the confusion.

[Bellhorn04]

No thanks on Snell though.

 

Monty is last man standing.

[Bellhorn04]

This offseason has been pretty f'king weird in general. Crickets/Ohtani/Crickets/Yamamoto/Crickets.

 

I smell a Scott Boras outburst somewhere in the near future.

[mvp 78]

@BRWalkoff

Blake Snell has privately expressed an interest in playing for the Yankees, per @martinonyc

[moonslav59]

How about no?

 

So, who plays 1B, when Casas sits the mandated 10+ games of rest by Cora?

 

I know you do not want dalbec on the 26 just for that.

 

Until we sign someone else, who can play 1B, and somewhere else, I hope, I think EValdez might be the best option. (BTW, I'm not sure he belongs on the 26 either, but I think more than Dalbec.)

[moonslav59]

i meant getting rid of Yoshida not Raffy. sorry for the confusion.

 

I understood what you meant.

[Bellhorn04]

So, who plays 1B, when Casas sits the mandated 10+ games of rest by Cora?

 

There's no such thing. Devers played 156 in 2019 and 156 in 2021. Ergo, it's 6 games.

[moonslav59]

Bader to NYM.

[moonslav59]

There's no such thing. Devers played 156 in 2019 and 156 in 2021. Ergo, it's 6 games.

 

It's a rarity and did not happen in 2022 or 2023, at all.

 

GS 2023 Even counting DH starts, all Sox players got 11 games off.

149 Devers at 3B (+2 at DH)

135 Dugo OF

115 Casas 1B (+2 at DH)

 

2022 Even counting DH starts, all Sox players got 11+ games off.

149 Dugo (+1 DH)

146 Bogey (+2 DH)

139 JD at DH (0 in the field)

137 Devers (+3 at DH)

[mvp 78]

So, who plays 1B, when Casas sits the mandated 10+ games of rest by Cora?

 

I know you do not want dalbec on the 26 just for that.

 

Until we sign someone else, who can play 1B, and somewhere else, I hope, I think EValdez might be the best option. (BTW, I'm not sure he belongs on the 26 either, but I think more than Dalbec.)

 

It'll be Pablo Reyes for now. Valdez is in AAA or traded.

[Hugh2]

Supposedly we're about $40 M under the first tax threshold as it is. Payroll room should not be an impediment to signing Monty or Snell. "The price is too high" certainly could be, of course.

 

According to @redsoxpayroll the number is closer to 33 million. Which is hypothetically enough for one big swing in FA if they wanted Snell or Monty.

 

If you believe they are willing to go over for the right guy, they have 53 million to the next threshold. They could easily move Jansens money if the wanted.

 

All this means nothing, because I don’t think they think Snell and Monty are good long term options

[Hugh2]

@BRWalkoff

Blake Snell has privately expressed an interest in playing for the Yankees, per @martinonyc

 

I thought Reddit said he was signing with Boston this week.

 

I can’t believe “trust me bro” didn’t come thru

[Old Red]

So, who plays 1B, when Casas sits the mandated 10+ games of rest by Cora?

 

I know you do not want dalbec on the 26 just for that.

 

Until we sign someone else, who can play 1B, and somewhere else, I hope, I think EValdez might be the best option. (BTW, I'm not sure he belongs on the 26 either, but I think more than Dalbec.)

No on Raffy at 1B, and even more so on the 5’9” Valdez. Dalbec is still a better option than these two.

[Hugh2]

Dalbec is the guy getting the call of Casas goes down and you need to call someone up for a few weeks

 

But who plays 1B when you just want to give him a day off? Or he’s ejected? Or taken out of a game. You need a back up first baseman on the 26 man. And there’s zero room for Dalbec on the 26 man.

[Bellhorn04]

It's a rarity and did not happen in 2022 or 2023, at all.

 

GS 2023 Even counting DH starts, all Sox players got 11 games off.

149 Devers at 3B (+2 at DH)

135 Dugo OF

115 Casas 1B (+2 at DH)

 

2022 Even counting DH starts, all Sox players got 11+ games off.

149 Dugo (+1 DH)

146 Bogey (+2 DH)

139 JD at DH (0 in the field)

137 Devers (+3 at DH)

 

Devers missed games due to injuries in 2022 and 2023.

[notin]

No on Raffy at 1B, and even more so on the 5’9” Valdez. Dalbec is still a better option than these two.

 

So the better Valdez goes to Worcester to accommodate the inferior Dalbec?

[Old Red]

Dalbec is the guy getting the call of Casas goes down and you need to call someone up for a few weeks

 

But who plays 1B when you just want to give him a day off? Or he’s ejected? Or taken out of a game. You need a back up first baseman on the 26 man. And there’s zero room for Dalbec on the 26 man.

 

I don’t even think anyone knows what the 26 man will even look like on March 28th. Cora may have some ideas, but I don’t know why some on here think it’s decided already. Who’s the backup 3B? It’s almost 3 months away, before the season starts. Nothing been decided, or confirmed of what the opening day roster will be.

[mvp 78]

Dalbec is the guy getting the call of Casas goes down and you need to call someone up for a few weeks

 

But who plays 1B when you just want to give him a day off? Or he’s ejected? Or taken out of a game. You need a back up first baseman on the 26 man. And there’s zero room for Dalbec on the 26 man.

 

Right now, the picture is still unsettled, but it looks like Reyes would be the bench UTIL guy. He played 1B last year for a few innings. It's better than nothing. Reyes has much more usefulness throughout the diamond too so he makes more sense for the 26 man roster than Valdez. Yes, Reyes is listed as shorter than Valdez, but his arms are much longer.

[mvp 78]

I don’t even think anyone knows what the 26 man will even look like on March 28th. Cora may have some ideas, but I don’t know why some on here think it’s decided already. Who’s the backup 3B? It’s almost 3 months away, before the season starts. Nothing been decided, or confirmed of what the opening day roster will be.

 

If they need a backup 1b and 3b, it would be Dalbec.

 

Maybe they move one of the OFers and make room for Dalbec out there as well.

[notin]

Dalbec is the guy getting the call of Casas goes down and you need to call someone up for a few weeks

 

But who plays 1B when you just want to give him a day off? Or he’s ejected? Or taken out of a game. You need a back up first baseman on the 26 man. And there’s zero room for Dalbec on the 26 man.

 

 

It’s kind of amazing how important it is for the Sox to have a backup 1b, but who backs up RF and CF? Refsnyder?