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It can be hard to tell what motivates a billionaire who has everything. Cohen seems to be having fun as an MLB owner, rather than just trying to turn a profit on it. I don't know if that is true, it just seems that way to me.
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It can be hard to tell what motivates a billionaire who has everything. Cohen seems to be having fun as an MLB owner, rather than just trying to turn a profit on it. I don't know if that is true, it just seems that way to me.

 

I get that sense, too, but I think he learned a lesson from last winter's splurge.

 

The Mets have a lot of high need areas. Spending huge on Yamo will not even come close to making them a winner.

 

I think adding Yamo to the Sox roster brings them closer, but maybe I'm just a homer.

 

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I get that sense, too, but I think he learned a lesson from last winter's splurge.

 

The Mets have a lot of high need areas. Spending huge on Yamo will not even come close to making them a winner.

 

I think adding Yamo to the Sox roster brings them closer, but maybe I'm just a homer.

 

 

The Mets won 3 fewer games than the Red Sox. Yamamoto is just as useful to them…

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I get that sense, too, but I think he learned a lesson from last winter's splurge.

 

The Mets have a lot of high need areas. Spending huge on Yamo will not even come close to making them a winner.

 

I think adding Yamo to the Sox roster brings them closer, but maybe I'm just a homer.

 

 

The N.L. East is a tough division too. The Mets do have talent. One of the things that hurt them last year was the loss of their closer, Edwin Diaz. He is arguably the best in the business at this point and he will be back this year.

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The Mets won 3 fewer games than the Red Sox. Yamamoto is just as useful to them…

 

My point was the Mets will have more holes to fill after getting Yamo than we would.

 

If Yamo is picking a team on which one has the best chance at winning not just in 2024, but over the next 5-10 years, they all look pretty much the same. I might even give the edge to BOS with so many top prospects a year or two away, and a pretty young/prime foundation. Sale comes off the books after '24, so another major acquisition should be very possible, next winter- along with 2-3, this winter.

 

Of course, the Mets could choose to add 5 key player any winter, and the Yanks & Giants have been known to make big offers, too.

 

Of these 4 teams, which is best set up farm & budget wise (combined)? I think one could argue the Sox are 1 or 2.

 

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The N.L. East is a tough division too. The Mets do have talent. One of the things that hurt them last year was the loss of their closer, Edwin Diaz. He is arguably the best in the business at this point and he will be back this year.

 

True, but they also traded away some talent at the deadline.

 

We lost Turner, Duvall and Paxton plus Dugo and Urias. With $50-70M to spend, we should be able to improve. If Story returns healthy, he could more than match the value of Diaz.

 

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My point was the Mets will have more holes to fill after getting Yamo than we would.

 

If Yamo is picking a team on which one has the best chance at winning not just in 2024, but over the next 5-10 years, they all look pretty much the same. I might even give the edge to BOS with so many top prospects a year or two away, and a pretty young/prime foundation. Sale comes off the books after '24, so another major acquisition should be very possible, next winter- along with 2-3, this winter.

 

Of course, the Mets could choose to add 5 key player any winter, and the Yanks & Giants have been known to make big offers, too.

 

Of these 4 teams, which is best set up farm & budget wise (combined)? I think one could argue the Sox are 1 or 2.

 

 

I don’t think the prospect of having so many suspects maybe a year , or two away with the possibility of living up to lots of hype is any lure of any FA coming to Boston. Now if the Red Sox still had Mookie, and Bogey to go with Raffy it would look a lot better.

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I don’t think the prospect of having so many suspects maybe a year , or two away with the possibility of living up to lots of hype is any lure of any FA coming to Boston. Now if the Red Sox still had Mookie, and Bogey to go with Raffy it would look a lot better.

 

Of course.

 

I'm not sure any FA looks at the team outlook 2-5 or more years down the line, but I do think our outlook, in terms of the current foundation and the whole system, looks pretty good for the Sox. At worst, we look about the same as the NYM, NYY and SFG.

 

I don't think any of these 4 jump out as the team that is a "winner," if that is what Yamo is looking for as a secondary factor to money.

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The N.L. East is a tough division too. The Mets do have talent. One of the things that hurt them last year was the loss of their closer, Edwin Diaz. He is arguably the best in the business at this point and he will be back this year.

 

The Mets weren’t hurt by a lack of a closer; they were hurt by having so few games in which they needed one. They only had 18 blown saves, third fewest in MLB…

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The Mets weren’t hurt by a lack of a closer; they were hurt by having so few games in which they needed one. They only had 18 blown saves, third fewest in MLB…

 

They were pretty damn bad.

 

They finished 4 games above the second worst team in the NL, the Nats.

 

Cohen may give a free agents the idea he will spend what it takes to be a winner, but they have a long way to go. IMO, longer than the Sox, and they have less top prospects near the ML level, too.

 

I'm just not seeing the great appeal of the Mets.

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Talk a bout a team who keeps swinging and missing at their top priorities.

At least the San Francisco Giants reportedly are swinging.

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He's teh brother of that racist p.o.s. who plays (or did play?) for the Astros?

 

Marlins now. Also a completely different human being than his brother…

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Marlins now. Also a completely different human being than his brother…

 

What is brother did was stupid, insensitive and ignorant. If it was based in racism, I wasn't aware the trait was genetically passed onto siblings.

 

"Stroman's a punk."

 

"Gurriel's is a defacto racist."

 

"Giolito is a nutcase."

 

Did I miss any?

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What is brother did was stupid, insensitive and ignorant. If it was based in racism, I wasn't aware the trait was genetically passed onto siblings.

 

"Stroman's a punk."

 

"Gurriel's is a defacto racist."

 

"Giolito is a nutcase."

 

Did I miss any?

 

Yes, you delicately omitted Bauer and Clevinger.

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Yes, you delicately omitted Bauer and Clevinger.

 

Tyler O'Neill!!!!!!!! Can't believe we traded for that guy!!!!!!!!!!!!

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“Bauer is a rapist!”

 

“Clevinger hates babies!!”

 

We may need to reconsider the 2nd point in relation to what a baby tried to do to our rotation in 2013.

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We may need to reconsider the 2nd point in relation to what a baby tried to do to our rotation in 2013.

 

“Babies hate Buchholz!!”

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