Story has surgery

[dgalehouse]

Sports surgery is now a common and routine thing. He should have had it done. People making a big deal out of it are actually trying to defend signing Story for big bucks in the first place. Just another way of absolving Bloom. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Let's see more results and fewer excuses.

[Old Red]

Sports surgery is now a common and routine thing. He should have had it done. People making a big deal out of it are actually trying to defend signing Story for big bucks in the first place. Just another way of absolving Bloom. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Let's see more results and fewer excuses.

 

And that’s why I asked the simple question in the first place. Was there anything missed in the medicals when Story was signed, and I think Bloom should answer that. And no I’m not asking for a full medical report to break any HIPPA laws.

[Bellhorn04]

And that’s why I asked the simple question in the first place. Was there anything missed in the medicals when Story was signed, and I think Bloom should answer that. And no I’m not asking for a full medical report to break any HIPPA laws.

 

The doctors obviously cleared him, just like they did Sale.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

The doctors obviously cleared him, just like they did Sale.

 

Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard!

[moonslav59]

The doctors obviously cleared him, just like they did Sale.

 

It really is this simple. Some posters just love to overanalyze and assign blame to the same guy for everything.

[Old Red]

It really is this simple. Some posters just love to overanalyze and assign blame to the same guy for everything.

 

Go wipe your brown nose off for once. If medicals were missed then someone is certainly to blame rather you like that , or not. If no medicals were missed then no one is to blame, but except for you it was well known Story had trouble throwing from SS his last year in Colorado.

[notin]

Sports surgery is now a common and routine thing. He should have had it done. People making a big deal out of it are actually trying to defend signing Story for big bucks in the first place. Just another way of absolving Bloom. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Let's see more results and fewer excuses.

 

Stop.

 

I didn’t like the Story signing, but at least liked it temporarily killed the Tampa North rhetoric.

 

But I also don’t think a flexor strain automatically equates to surgery, and would like some medical opinion from people who don’t think surgery is as routine as brushing one’s teeth or some sort of professional obligation.

 

I also don’t think every time a player needs surgery, it’s because something was missed a year earlier…

Edited January 11, 2023 by notin

[moonslav59]

Go wipe your brown nose off for once. If medicals were missed then someone is certainly to blame rather you like that , or not. If no medicals were missed then no one is to blame, but except for you it was well known Story had trouble throwing from SS his last year in Colorado.

 

Nobody is disputing this, and what this has to do with a brown nose, only you know.

 

Yes, the medical staff knew about the issues with the elbow. Who is saying this is not true?

 

They must have cleared him to play and reported the risk was low enough to be worth the risk.

 

What are we missing? Bloom erred by believing the report? Bloom did not read the report? Bloom disregarded the strong warnings about the risk of injury and signed him anyway?

 

This is what you are implying. Tell us where we are wrong and you are right.

 

Have you read the report?

 

I didn't think so.

[moonslav59]

Sports surgery is now a common and routine thing. He should have had it done. People making a big deal out of it are actually trying to defend signing Story for big bucks in the first place. Just another way of absolving Bloom. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Let's see more results and fewer excuses.

 

How about seeing this as just another way of blaming Bloom for everything?

 

So, we should now blame Bloom for not forcing Story to have surgery on top of the signing of him?

[Old Red]

Nobody is disputing this, and what this has to do with a brown nose, only you know.

 

Yes, the medical staff knew about the issues with the elbow. Who is saying this is not true?

 

They must have cleared him to play and reported the risk was low enough to be worth the risk.

 

What are we missing? Bloom erred by believing the report? Bloom did not read the report? Bloom disregarded the strong warnings about the risk of injury and signed him anyway?

 

This is what you are implying. Tell us where we are wrong and you are right.

 

Have you read the report?

 

I didn't think so.

 

For some reason you think you are Bloom’s keeper, and protector, and every time you try do do that you make him look worse, and worse. Everything written isn’t trying to blame Bloom even from me, but you think it is. It must be a tough way to think like that all the time.

[Old Red]

How about seeing this as just another way of blaming Bloom for everything?

 

So, we should now blame Bloom for not forcing Story to have surgery on top of the signing of him?

 

The sky is falling, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, and someone is trying to blame Bloom again. Boo who, boo who!

[mvp 78]

How about seeing this as just another way of blaming Bloom for everything?

 

So, we should now blame Bloom for not forcing Story to have surgery on top of the signing of him?

 

I mean, there were questions about the signing from day one. If the signing doesn't work out OF COURSE IT'S ON BLOOM.

[Hugh2]

I think in this case there’s a lot of justified fan frustration.

 

Sale, for example, took forever to get TJ surgery and missed a lot of time he really didn’t need to had he decided (or the team decided, not sure who makes the call) to have it earlier.

 

And Story now appears to be on a similar track just after the Sox decided to part ways with Bogaerts.

 

That's exactly it. This can still be a bad signing, Bloom can still be bad at his job, AND people can back off of the "they should have made him get the surgery sooner" argument which is just unethical, lacking knowledge of common medicine, and wrong on so many levels. Let's also factor in Kike tweeting today calling some of the reports about his earlier knowledge complete ********. He literally tweeted and used the word ******** there too I believe.

 

I will never understand why people make the arguments they do. This is NOT an attempt to defend Bloom, the wolves can have him IDK. I have no idea where people got that nonsense from other than......fan frustration. Emotions play a large role in the decisions we make, it's evolutionary, and here we see some people who clearly get emotional and can not think rationally when they get upset.

[Hugh2]

I'm going to say it again I don't care how annoying it's but anyone who feels a person should have been pressured into getting surgery when they may not have needed surgery just lacks all empathy for their fellow man. And after what happened in Buffalo a week ago you'd think people would use their brains before regurgitating such garbage.

[mvp 78]

That's exactly it. This can still be a bad signing, Bloom can still be bad at his job, AND people can back off of the "they should have made him get the surgery sooner" argument which is just unethical, lacking knowledge of common medicine, and wrong on so many levels. Let's also factor in Kike tweeting today calling some of the reports about his earlier knowledge complete ********. He literally tweeted and used the word ******** there too I believe.

 

I will never understand why people make the arguments they do. This is NOT an attempt to defend Bloom, the wolves can have him IDK. I have no idea where people got that nonsense from other than......fan frustration. Emotions play a large role in the decisions we make, it's evolutionary, and here we see some people who clearly get emotional and can not think rationally when they get upset.

 

There were known issues. Bloom had no backup plan. I'm not mad at Story. I'm upset that Bloom seemingly has no idea how to fill the middle of the infield.

[Hugh2]

There were known issues. Bloom had no backup plan. I'm not mad at Story. I'm upset that Bloom seemingly has no idea how to fill the middle of the infield.

 

Fine, that's fair, I have no quarrels with that stance and agree. My issue is with the stupid ideal that if he had surgery now, he should have had surgery back in October.

[Bobe2]

That's exactly it. This can still be a bad signing, Bloom can still be bad at his job, AND people can back off of the "they should have made him get the surgery sooner" argument which is just unethical, lacking knowledge of common medicine, and wrong on so many levels. Let's also factor in Kike tweeting today calling some of the reports about his earlier knowledge complete ********. He literally tweeted and used the word ******** there too I believe.

 

I will never understand why people make the arguments they do. This is NOT an attempt to defend Bloom, the wolves can have him IDK. I have no idea where people got that nonsense from other than......fan frustration. Emotions play a large role in the decisions we make, it's evolutionary, and here we see some people who clearly get emotional and can not think rationally when they get upset.

 

The way I see it is if Story had stayed at second base he wouldn’t need the surgery, it was the RedSox horrible handling of the shortstop situation in both AAA and the bigs, that caused the problem,

[mvp 78]

Fine, that's fair, I have no quarrels with that stance and agree. My issue is with the stupid ideal that if he had surgery now, he should have had surgery back in October.

 

According to one report, the issue didn't even creep up until recently. It wasn't an issue. If there was a known issue, why not get it while he was out last season?!?!? Go back further!

[mvp 78]

The way I see it is if Story had stayed at second base he wouldn’t need the surgery, it was the RedSox horrible handling of the shortstop situation in both AAA and the bigs, that caused the problem,

 

How? He arm was a timebomb.

[moonslav59]

For some reason you think you are Bloom’s keeper, and protector, and every time you try do do that you make him look worse, and worse. Everything written isn’t trying to blame Bloom even from me, but you think it is. It must be a tough way to think like that all the time.

 

Again, you are constructing someone else.

 

It's obvious just about everything is Bloom's fault to you.

 

There is a lot I don't like about what Bloom has done, including a couple things you don't even blame him for. You just choose to interpret my posts wrongly and assign meanings not there or even implied. I'd say that "must be tough to think that way all the time," but since you are oblivious to it all, I'm guessing your La-La land is pretty sweet, for you.

[moonslav59]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, and someone is trying to blame Bloom again. Boo who, boo who!

 

Just pointing out you obsessiveness. It's not "someone;" it's you.

 

No sky falling.

[Old Red]

There were known issues. Bloom had no backup plan. I'm not mad at Story. I'm upset that Bloom seemingly has no idea how to fill the middle of the infield.

 

Kind of the common theme with Bloom. 1B, and CF last year that he dragged his feet for 2 months. Bloom himself is the backup plan, and how has that worked out?

[Bobe2]

How? He arm was a timebomb.

 

True, but it was strong enough to play second, for how long no one knows, and we wouldn’t be in this self inflicted mess, with no ss or 2nd baseman. This off season has not been bad luck, just bad management

[mvp 78]

Just pointing out you obsessiveness. It's not "someone;" it's you.

 

No sky falling.

 

It already fell.

[Old Red]

Just pointing out you obsessiveness. It's not "someone;" it's you.

 

No sky falling.

 

Does it make you feel better to point out my critique on Bloom? I think it’s pretty well known.

[mvp 78]

True, but it was strong enough to play second, for how long no one knows, and we wouldn’t be in this self inflicted mess, with no ss or 2nd baseman. This off season has not been bad luck, just bad management

 

I'm not saying luck is involved. They signed him. They chose no redundancy. They have chosen to still sit on their hands.

[Old Red]

It already fell.

 

The baseball gods are not happy with the Red Sox for the last few years. Must be Bloom’s critics.

[oldtimer]

It's hard for me to believe that if the Sox medical staff knew our $20 Mil infielder had a medical issue that would require surgery that they would not have recommended surgery at the close of last season. That just would have added 3 months of unavailability.

[mvp 78]

The baseball gods are not happy with the Red Sox for the last few years. Must be Bloom’s critics.

 

I mean, they were happy with them in 2021.

[Nick]

I waited out Pedey's dead contract. Then Price. We wait patiently on Sale. Now another dead money of $23M.

And we wonder why JH is skeptical.

Edited January 11, 2023 by Nick