Corey Kluber signs with Red Sox

[Bellhorn04]

Another good outing today by Wacha at the stadium. 7 IP/5 H/ 2 ER.

 

Yes, another lucky game for Michael. Maybe his month of May will go down as the luckiest of any pitcher in history.

[Old Red]

Yes, another lucky game for Michael. Maybe his month of May will go down as the luckiest of any pitcher in history.

 

Wacha probably thought he was signing with a better team, but it doesn’t look like it so far this season.

[Duran Is The Man]

someone on Facebook claimed the reason Kluber has been so bad and Wacha so good is the weather -nice and mild in SD while cold and clammy in Boston. LOL. yeah, that's it.

[moonslav59]

Yes, another lucky game for Michael. Maybe his month of May will go down as the luckiest of any pitcher in history.

 

And so soon after the luckiest season in history!

[dgalehouse]

It is pretty clear that Eovaldi and Wacha were better picks to click than Kluber.

[Dipre]

Yes, another lucky game for Michael. Maybe his month of May will go down as the luckiest of any pitcher in history.

 

That honor will always belong to Carlos Silva.

[notin]

It is pretty clear that Eovaldi and Wacha were better picks to click than Kluber.

 

Was this true in December?

[dgalehouse]

I think so .

[Jasonbay44]

Was this true in December?

 

I would think so.. Wacha and Eovaldi were both better last season and it’s not like Kluber was getting younger…

[notin]

I think so .

 

Even though Kluber was better and healthier than both last season?

 

Wacha threw 127 innings last year and it was the most he’d thrown since 2017. Kluber threw 164.

 

Eovaldi considers the Injured List his summer home…

Edited May 28, 2023 by notin

[dgalehouse]

Even though Kluber was better and healthier than both last season?

 

Wacha threw 127 innings last year and it was the most he’d thrown since 2017. Kluber threw 164.

 

Eovaldi considers the Injured List his summer home…

 

Wacha : 11- 2 , 3.32 ERA. Eovaldi : 6-3, 3.87 ERA. Kluber: 10-10 , 4.34 ERA. Kluber is several years older than the others.

[notin]

Wacha : 11- 2 , 3.32 ERA. Eovaldi : 6-3, 3.87 ERA. Kluber: 10-10 , 4.34 ERA. Kluber is several years older than the others.

 

Wacha: 127 IP, 1.5 fWAR

Eovaldi: 109 IP, 1.0 fWAR

Kluber: 164 IP, 3.0 fWAR

 

Kluber was older, but that doesn’t mean you ignore the obvious and omnipresent injury problems from the other two pitchers…

[moonslav59]

Wacha: 127 IP, 1.5 fWAR

Eovaldi: 109 IP, 1.0 fWAR

Kluber: 164 IP, 3.0 fWAR

 

Kluber was older, but that doesn’t mean you ignore the obvious and omnipresent injury problems from the other two pitchers…

 

So, there actually was a reason Bloom signed the bum.

 

Those damn metrics!!!!

[Duran Is The Man]

So, there actually was a reason Bloom signed the bum.

 

Those damn metrics!!!!

 

and i think Kluber would be Exhibit A on why you don't rely solely on them.

[notin]

So, there actually was a reason Bloom signed the bum.

 

Those damn metrics!!!!

 

That and Kluber was likely the only one of the three to take a one year deal. Plus Eovaldi and Wacha quite often don’t have a healthy arm between them…

[notin]

and i think Kluber would be Exhibit A on why you don't rely solely on them.

 

And you’re sure that’s what happened?

[moonslav59]

That and Kluber was likely the only one of the three to take a one year deal. Plus Eovaldi and Wacha quite often don’t have a healthy arm between them…

 

Exactly. We did offer Nate much more for one year.

 

I'm pretty sure we'd have taken Wacha at $7.5M/1.

[Duran Is The Man]

And you’re sure that’s what happened?

 

 

i didn't say it did.

[Jasonbay44]

That and Kluber was likely the only one of the three to take a one year deal. Plus Eovaldi and Wacha quite often don’t have a healthy arm between them…

 

To be fair, Wacha and Eovaldi sitting on injury list and causing someone else to start, probably would’ve gotten better results than Kluber…

[moonslav59]

To be fair, Wacha and Eovaldi sitting on injury list and causing someone else to start, probably would’ve gotten better results than Kluber…

 

Like more of Pivetta?

[Bellhorn04]

Wacha: 127 IP, 1.5 fWAR

Eovaldi: 109 IP, 1.0 fWAR

Kluber: 164 IP, 3.0 fWAR

 

Kluber was older, but that doesn’t mean you ignore the obvious and omnipresent injury problems from the other two pitchers…

 

You're being a bit selective, considering that Kluber threw a grand total of 116 innings for the years 2019-2021. If we only use 2022, Carlos Rodon has no injury concerns either.

[Bellhorn04]

Exactly. We did offer Nate much more for one year.

 

I'm pretty sure we'd have taken Wacha at $7.5M/1.

 

Academic niceties. All that really matters is what actually happened.

[Jasonbay44]

Like more of Pivetta?

 

Pivetta was slotted in for a rotation spot regardless

[dannycater]

Kluber (over-the-hill, sign him!) Story (injury prone, arm issues, sign him big!), Kike (after a bad season, sign him!), Duvall (injury prone)...yup, GM of the Year.

[notin]

You're being a bit selective, considering that Kluber threw a grand total of 116 innings for the years 2019-2021. If we only use 2022, Carlos Rodon has no injury concerns either.

 

I’ve repeatedly expressed that willingness to sign a one year deal was also a likely factor…

[notin]

Kluber (over-the-hill, sign him!) Story (injury prone, arm issues, sign him big!), Kike (after a bad season, sign him!), Duvall (injury prone)...yup, GM of the Year.

 

You do understand this team is winning right now, right?

[notin]

To be fair, Wacha and Eovaldi sitting on injury list and causing someone else to start, probably would’ve gotten better results than Kluber…

 

Not necessarily given the way Walter, Murphy and Mata have been going so far this year…

[Bellhorn04]

I’ve repeatedly expressed that willingness to sign a one year deal was also a likely factor…

 

What does that have to do with the injury point?

[Jasonbay44]

Not necessarily given the way Walter, Murphy and Mata have been going so far this year…

 

The starts likely would’ve gone to Crawford and Winckowski, which I get hurts the pen.. but it’s not like Kluber helps the pen in anyway shape or form

[notin]

The starts likely would’ve gone to Crawford and Winckowski, which I get hurts the pen.. but it’s not like Kluber helps the pen in anyway shape or form

 

Maybe they start, but both of them have started and neither exactly dazzled in the rotation either.

 

Kluber was a very low risk gamble that didn’t work out. I don’t mind that they signed him. They needed rotation help and he certainly has a long history of being a successful starter. But I’m also glad it was only for one year and glad they removed him from the rotation…