Red Sox Sign Masataka Yoshida

[notin]

Does that even exist anymore in the MLB?

 

And then that executive said “Excuse me. I have go sign a player for over $340mill”

[Bellhorn04]

So here's the thing about this over bidding. The way the salaries are going up year over year the price that these team will be paying their players in these long contract will probably be close to market price at that time. In 10 years from now 400+ million will be the new normal contracts

 

I keep thinking the bubble has to burst eventually, but it sure hasn't yet. How can revenues continue to grow at a level that supports such massive contracts? Are attendance and TV/internet viewership growing? It's pretty obvious a lot of the new money is coming from advertising and gambling partnerships. But even that has to plateau at some point.

[mvp 78]

mvp and moon think they should have tanked 2022, basically.

 

They would be in a better spot today with no worse for wear.

[mvp 78]

I keep thinking the bubble has to burst eventually, but it sure hasn't yet. How can revenues continue to grow at a level that supports such massive contracts? Are attendance and TV/internet viewership growing? It's pretty obvious a lot of the new money is coming from advertising and gambling partnerships. But even that has to plateau at some point.

 

Braves made 400M solely in baseball revenues through Q3. Not going over the luxury cap is a choice.

[dgalehouse]

The Sox can still sell advertising space on the left sleeve of the player's jerseys. Help pay for Devers.

[Bellhorn04]

They would be in a better spot today with no worse for wear.

 

Yes, and it would be really cool to have a crystal ball that foretells the future.

[Bellhorn04]

Braves made 400M solely in baseball revenues through Q3. Not going over the luxury cap is a choice.

 

Oh I know they're making it, I'm just not sure how and if that means is perfectly sustainable at this rate.

[moonslav59]

I don't think they knew before 2022 that the 2022 team was going to go 78-84.

 

The argument about trading him at the deadline makes a lot more sense than the one about trading him before the season. That argument stinks.

 

It stinks, but it's a valid point. If they knew they were never going to pay B ogey near what he was going to get, they should have traded him. Same with Devers, now.

 

When you get your system as fine tuned as the Atsros, and you have studs waiting to replace your departing studs, you don't need to trade them before a season where you might win. Until then, we are in building up mode.

 

We aren't getting any better by replacing Bogey with a comp pick and Andrus.

[moonslav59]

mvp and moon think they should have tanked 2022, basically.

 

I did at the deadline, but trading Bogey last winter does not have to be tanking. We'd have his $20M to spend and whatever we get for him, too.

[mvp 78]

Yes, and it would be really cool to have a crystal ball that foretells the future.

 

I saw the 18 wheeler headed down the road.

[mvp 78]

Oh I know they're making it, I'm just not sure how and if that means is perfectly sustainable at this rate.

 

Who knows what the breaking point will be. We’ll know once owners start selling or the 300M contracts go bye bye.

[notin]

It stinks, but it's a valid point. If they knew they were never going to pay B ogey near what he was going to get, they should have traded him. Same with Devers, now.

 

When you get your system as fine tuned as the Atsros, and you have studs waiting to replace your departing studs, you don't need to trade them before a season where you might win. Until then, we are in building up mode.

 

We aren't getting any better by replacing Bogey with a comp pick and Andrus.

 

Or Swanson - as the “interest” rumors persist!!

 

#clickbait

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Just learned that Yoshida's agent is Boras, who we all know loves to shop players for as long as humanly possible to squeeze out every possible penny...

 

... unless a club totally overpays, like San Diego with Bogey -- or Boston with Yoshida (which is the consensus across the industry).

 

I still like the signing, because a guy who doesn't strike out and consistently gets on base is always valuable -- and nowadays, a rarity. Now Bloom just needs a couple big righty boppers to drive him in (like JD or Xander in their primes).

[Old Red]

@BeyondtheMnstr

ESPN's Kiley McDaniel on new Red Sox outfielder Masataka Yoshida:

 

According to "10 sources" he spoke to they all "thought the Red Sox overpaid by a hefty margin." One executive went as far as to say, "We thought he was worth less than half of what they paid."

Maybe I’m late to the party on this, but I’m finding out that Yoshida is a Boris guy, and the fact that the signing happened so fast that Boris never does tells me Boris didn’t think he could get more money than this, and scooped up this deal real quick, and took the Red Sox to the cleaners along the way.

[moonslav59]

Maybe I’m late to the party on this, but I’m finding out that Yoshida is a Boris guy, and the fact that the signing happened so fast that Boris never does tells me Boris didn’t think he could get more money than this, and scooped up this deal real quick, and took the Red Sox to the cleaners along the way.

 

Lots of assumptions.

 

It's pretty much a given, though, that Boras felt he "could get no more money than this."

 

I agree on that.

[a700hitter]

@BeyondtheMnstr

ESPN's Kiley McDaniel on new Red Sox outfielder Masataka Yoshida:

 

According to "10 sources" he spoke to they all "thought the Red Sox overpaid by a hefty margin." One executive went as far as to say, "We thought he was worth less than half of what they paid."

But we love Bloom’s strategy and philosophy!

[Bellhorn04]

If this guy gets off to a bad start, what are the odds his first nickname is "Mistake"?

[Old Red]

If this guy gets off to a bad start, what are the odds his first nickname is "Mistake"?

 

I doubt he’s nowhere near prepared for he scrutiny he’ll be getting, and it will be worse than the warm welcome Story Land got if he gets off to a bad start.

[Deja Doh]

Unless Yoshida is the missing piece that will ensure we land Shohei Ohtani next year, Mistake is what it is. Judge was steal of free agency.

[oldtimer]

So now we have Jansen and Yoshida and a couple of fairly competent relievers and 40 million to spend. Senga is out there and we need at least another outfielder (right handed) and have to fill in at shortstop. If we bring Rafaela up, we will have the most diminutive outfield in the league. Let's not pick any fights. The Bogey loss is a sa one, but I doubt we would ever match the Padres offer. Have to move onward now.

[Old Red]

Unless Yoshida is the missing piece that will ensure we land Shohei Ohtani next year, Mistake is funny. Judge was steal of free agency.

 

We were at least $100M short on signing Bogey, and there is no way the Red Sox could land Ohtani.

[Hugh2]

We were at least $100M short on signing Bogey, and there is no way the Red Sox could land Ohtani.

 

But we could overpay for other guys? I don't buy theres no chance the Sox land Ohtani, but....I don't think it's likely. maybe a 5-10% chance.

[redsoxrules]

But we could overpay for other guys? I don't buy theres no chance the Sox land Ohtani, but....I don't think it's likely. maybe a 5-10% chance.

 

If Ohtani has another year like last year, he's getting 450MIL easily. Even at 29

[Hugh2]

If Ohtani has another year like last year, he's getting 450MIL easily. Even at 29

 

I take this back, I was stuck on this years FA class and was thinking about Senga not Ohtani

[Old Red]

But we love Bloom’s strategy and philosophy!

 

He’d better be right on this one, because of other reports I’ve read other teams doesn’t have Yoshida ranked so highly, and certainly not worth what the Red Sox are paying him. Underpay to Bogey, and over pay on Yoshida an unproven ML talent?

Edited December 9, 2022 by Old Red

[Hugh2]

 

 

If you wanna see him hit

[oldtimer]

He’d better be right on this one, because of other reports I’ve read other teams doesn’t have Yoshida ranked so highly, and certainly not worth what the Red Sox are paying him. Underpay to Bogey, and over pay on Yoshida an unproven ML talent?

No way anyone should have given Bogey a 280 mil 11 year contract. It would have been thee wrong move for the Sox. One can argue that we did a poor job on extension talks earlier on but Bloom did the right thing by not matching the Padres offer.

[redsoxrules]

No way anyone should have given Bogey a 280 mil 11 year contract. It would have been thee wrong move for the Sox. One can argue that we did a poor job on extension talks earlier on but Bloom did the right thing by not matching the Padres offer.

 

He didn't have to match the Padres.

He could have signed him for less

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

If we bring Rafaela up, we will have the most diminutive outfield in the league. Let's not pick any fights.

 

No will challenge the Red Sox as long as Madman Sale is around. They'd be afraid he'd scissor their shirts, ram them with his bike, and king kong them with big screen TVs.

[Bellhorn04]

No way anyone should have given Bogey a 280 mil 11 year contract. It would have been thee wrong move for the Sox. One can argue that we did a poor job on extension talks earlier on but Bloom did the right thing by not matching the Padres offer.

 

They did nothing right, oldtimer. Nothing at all. They screwed up just like they did with Betts and just like they will with Devers. They've become a clown show.