Fire Bloom .

[Old Red]

They're your updates now, man.

 

I’d rather have better results to update.

[moonslav59]

Just doing the daily Wild Card standings update that Moon started, or have we forgotten?

 

No, you added the games from 2nd to last place and .500, so it means something to you.

[notin]

No, you added the games from 2nd to last place and .500, so it means something to you.

 

It’s become obvious Old Red is rooting for the Sox to lose in hopes they fire Bloom and stop using those pesky analytics.

 

The problem is the days of the non-analytical GM are, as Old Red would say, going, going GONE. And not only are they never coming back, any new GM brought in is likely to be even MORE analytics-based…

[moonslav59]

It’s become obvious Old Red is rooting for the Sox to lose in hopes they fire Bloom and stop using those pesky analytics.

 

The problem is the days of the non-analytical GM are, as Old Red would say, going, going GONE. And not only are they never coming back, any new GM brought in is likely to be even MORE analytics-based…

 

He must have been bullied by geeks and nerds back in grammar school.

[dgalehouse]

More back fence gossip.

[notin]

More back fence gossip.

 

It’s so funny that you actually don’t think you do the same thing…

[moonslav59]

It’s so funny that you actually don’t think you do the same thing…

 

It's the same as name-calling- basically calling us back fence gossipers, but by wording it differently, he thinks he's innocent.

[moonslav59]

Their winning spurts coincided with them playing under .500 teams.

 

So, the Yankee collapse also has to do with playing a more difficult schedule later in the season, rather than having 15 players on the IL, too, right?

[Old Red]

No, you added the games from 2nd to last place and .500, so it means something to you.

 

Just giving more info to the readers, and nothing more.

[Old Red]

So, the Yankee collapse also has to do with playing a more difficult schedule later in the season, rather than having 15 players on the IL, too, right?

 

Why do you always have to do a but if? It makes me feel better that the Yankees have collapsed too, but that has nothing to do with the Red Sox situation. I didn’t buy in to the fantasy month of June like so many did on here.

[Old Red]

It’s become obvious Old Red is rooting for the Sox to lose in hopes they fire Bloom and stop using those pesky analytics.

 

The problem is the days of the non-analytical GM are, as Old Red would say, going, going GONE. And not only are they never coming back, any new GM brought in is likely to be even MORE analytics-based…

 

It’s always so amusing that so many on here find things that aren’t even there. Just , because I give more standing updates then Moon did you have come to the nonsense conclusion that I want the Red Sox to lose, and then say it is so obvious.it’s true that I want Bloom gone, and have said so many times, but it’s 100% FALSE that I want the Red Sox to lose.

[Old Red]

He must have been bullied by geeks and nerds back in grammar school.

 

Wow!

[moonslav59]

Why do you always have to do a but if? It makes me feel better that the Yankees have collapsed too, but that has nothing to do with the Red Sox situation. I didn’t buy in to the fantasy month of June like so many did on here.

 

Injuries matter.

 

I don't think the Sox are as good as the 20-6 June Sox, but they aren't as bad as the injury-riddled 8-19 July Sox, either. I don't think their 12-16 August record reflects the team very well, either.

 

The team seemed snake-bitten from opening day. It happens.

 

Being in a division with so many good teams makes a difference. The O's are no longer a door mat, like we've thought for years.

 

Hey, we're 5-4 in September.

Our farm is playing well, and certain players seem to be busting out.

Maybe I'm just "buying a fantasy," but I have to try and be optimistic about something. To me, and this is not meant as a slight on anyone else, it's what being a true fan means.

[notin]

It’s always so amusing that so many on here find things that aren’t even there. Just , because I give more standing updates then Moon did you have come to the nonsense conclusion that I want the Red Sox to lose, and then say it is so obvious.it’s true that I want Bloom gone, and have said so many times, but it’s 100% FALSE that I want the Red Sox to lose.

 

Actually it’s because you repeatedly emphasize everything negative and attempt to bully anyone who says anything positive and because you denigrate “nerds” and blame analytics and refuse to acknowledge the role of analytics in the recent success of the last 2 decades. And even when asked if you would emphasize the negatives, you blatantly and overtly said yes and scoffed at anything even mildly positive.

 

I stand by what I said. I don’t get why you’re afraid to admit it. Not like it’s a crime. Not even on a Sox board…

[Old Red]

Actually it’s because you repeatedly emphasize everything negative and attempt to bully anyone who says anything positive and because you denigrate “nerds” and blame analytics and refuse to acknowledge the role of analytics in the recent success of the last 2 decades. And even when asked if you would emphasize the negatives, you blatantly and overtly said yes and scoffed at anything even mildly positive.

 

I stand by what I said. I don’t get why you’re afraid to admit it. Not like it’s a crime. Not even on a Sox board…

 

Doing the standing update the facts are the facts, and I don’t see there is anything good to say about them. I’m only repeating what is said on the air numerous times that the Red Sox are run by the nerds, and clones. I’ve always thought the the likes of Big Papi, Manny, Pedro, and Schilling were the ones who were the reason, and your telling me analytics was the reason that for the success. What a bummer. You can write your fictional comedy all you want. Once again hilarious!

[moonslav59]

Doing the standing update the facts are the facts, and I don’t see there is anything good to say about them. I’m only repeating what is said on the air numerous times that the Red Sox are run by the nerds, and clones. I’ve always thought the the likes of Big Papi, Manny, Pedro, and Schilling were the ones who were the reason, and your telling me analytics was the reason that for the success. What a bummer. You can write your fictional comedy all you want. Once again hilarious!

 

Do you deny analytics were a big part of Theo's reign as GM?

 

They went after high OBP guys like "The Grrek God of Walks" -Youk and Papi, just to name 2.

 

(Manny was a carry over, but he fit right into any form of offensive metric usage.

[Old Red]

Do you deny analytics were a big part of Theo's reign as GM?

 

They went after high OBP guys like "The Grrek God of Walks" -Youk and Papi, just to name 2.

 

(Manny was a carry over, but he fit right into any form of offensive metric usage.

You already know my answer. I don’t give a dam about analytics, nor do I need them. For those of you who do fine, but I just don’t deal with them, and there is nothing wrong with that. We’ve gone through all this 658 times already. It doesn’t bother me if you use analytics, but it seems to bother some way to much that I don’t. Sorry, but that’s the way I see it.

[moonslav59]

You already know my answer. I don’t give a dam about analytics, nor do I need them. For those of you who do fine, but I just don’t deal with them, and there is nothing wrong with that. We’ve gone through all this 658 times already. It doesn’t bother me if you use analytics, but it seems to bother some way to much that I don’t. Sorry, but that’s the way I see it.

 

I didn't ask the question you answered.

[Old Red]

3-5-11

 

Yes 3 games from 500, and 3 games from being called a losing team that has bothered some, but get to 500, and that stigma can go away, so 1 game at a time, and let’s go Sox!

 

5 games in the L column from getting out of last place in the Div.

 

11 games in the L column from the last Wild Card Spot.

 

Don’t blame me for the bad news, and stats. There’s plenty of blame to pass around for that.

Edited September 11, 2022 by Old Red

[Old Red]

I didn't ask the question you answered.

 

That’s my analytics answer for everything. I don’t use it, I don’t need it, and I don’t care.

[moonslav59]

That’s my analytics answer for everything. I don’t use it, I don’t need it, and I don’t care.

 

It was a question about Sox management, not your opinion on analytics, but okay.

 

BTW, you obviously care..

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

As far as the disallowing of the shift next season, I have no problem with that because just like lowering the mound and employing DH's it will add offense to the game. However, if I was putting this new rule together, I would allow a team to use the shift a certain arbitrary number of times during the game.

Hell, MLB has numbers for mound visits, how many batters a reliever must face, and next season how many times a pitcher can throw to 1st base.

Just my 2 cents.

[notin]

Doing the standing update the facts are the facts, and I don’t see there is anything good to say about them. I’m only repeating what is said on the air numerous times that the Red Sox are run by the nerds, and clones. I’ve always thought the the likes of Big Papi, Manny, Pedro, and Schilling were the ones who were the reason, and your telling me analytics was the reason that for the success. What a bummer. You can write your fictional comedy all you want. Once again hilarious!

 

 

Ooh radio opinions!! Always so informative!

 

Obviously the 4 players you named were great, but you can’t credit them for two decades of success when most of them have been gone for over 10 years.

 

The radio guys like to criticize because they miss the point that while great players certainly are help, the gaps get filled with analytics. And sometimes those gaps get filled by a player who actually becomes great, like David Ortiz…

[Old Red]

Ooh radio opinions!! Always so informative!

 

Obviously the 4 players you named were great, but you can’t credit them for two decades of success when most of them have been gone for over 10 years.

 

The radio guys like to criticize because they miss the point that while great players certainly are help, the gaps get filled with analytics. And sometimes those gaps get filled by a player who actually becomes great, like David Ortiz…

Oh no those bad radio opinions again, and those bad radio guys that always miss the point. How do they possibly get away with stuff like that?

[notin]

Oh no those bad radio opinions again, and those bad radio guys that always miss the point. How do they possibly get away with stuff like that?

 

It’s funny how you still think media is clearly based on facts. Apparently you’re the guy who still does…

[Old Red]

It’s funny how you still think media is clearly based on facts. Apparently you’re the guy who still does…

 

My only excuse is I was corrupted early on listening to Guy Mainella, Eddie Andleman, and the Sports Babe.

[Bellhorn04]

Doing the standing update the facts are the facts, and I don’t see there is anything good to say about them. I’m only repeating what is said on the air numerous times that the Red Sox are run by the nerds, and clones. I’ve always thought the the likes of Big Papi, Manny, Pedro, and Schilling were the ones who were the reason, and your telling me analytics was the reason that for the success. What a bummer. You can write your fictional comedy all you want. Once again hilarious!

 

Theo Epstein was an analytics nerd. Won two titles with the Red Sox. Some call him the greatest GM of all time. But Airheads say nerds are bad.

[notin]

Theo Epstein was an analytics nerd. Won two titles with the Red Sox. Some call him the greatest GM of all time. But Airheads say nerds are bad.

 

A lot of folks in the sports media adopted the stance that complaining about everything makes them look smarter…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Theo Epstein was an analytics nerd. Won two titles with the Red Sox. Some call him the greatest GM of all time. But Airheads say nerds are bad.

 

Theo did acknowledge lately that he and his ilk were partly to blame for the majors' major issues. I'm still glad he has a say in how to fix things now.

[moonslav59]

Ooh radio opinions!! Always so informative!

 

Obviously the 4 players you named were great, but you can’t credit them for two decades of success when most of them have been gone for over 10 years.

 

The radio guys like to criticize because they miss the point that while great players certainly are help, the gaps get filled with analytics. And sometimes those gaps get filled by a player who actually becomes great, like David Ortiz…

 

And, how did we choose to acquire some of those greats?

 

I doubt they only looked at ERA & BA and the ole "eye test."

 

How did they decide to let some of our stars go- just in time?

 

It couldn't have anything to do with data on player decline by age- that would be too nerdy.

 

Remember when everyone ooo'd and awww'd at VTek's computer brain? The guy committed to memory more than any little cheat sheet kept under a player's cap could ever hold. You think all he memorized was BA's and HRs?

 

I don't get why some want to limit intelligence in baseball.