Fire Bloom .

[Dipre]

And actually a pretty good defensive one. Why did NY move him to DH?

 

To avoid his increasingly frequent injuries?

[Dipre]

OPS by months:

 

832

962

742

844

630

 

That portends a September explosion. You can bet a month's supply of poutine and maple syrup on it.

[Bellhorn04]

That portends a September explosion. You can bet a month's supply of poutine and maple syrup on it.

 

I only eat poutine and maple syrup when I run out of back bacon.

[notin]

I only eat poutine and maple syrup when I run out of back bacon.

 

Is that legal in Canada?

[notin]

To avoid his increasingly frequent injuries?

 

That was my thought, too. Just wanted confirmation…

[notin]

That's why I said "DH-types", as some of them can play the field but are terrible at it, like Yoshida.

 

Is Yoshida really the best Sox candidate to move to DH? I’m thinking Casas to DH and Devers to 1b might make more sense. Potentially upgrade the gloves at two infield positions. Devers certainly has 1b in his future and Casas isn’t doing much defensively to keep himself there…

[moonslav59]

Is Yoshida really the best Sox candidate to move to DH? I’m thinking Casas to DH and Devers to 1b might make more sense. Potentially upgrade the gloves at two infield positions. Devers certainly has 1b in his future and Casas isn’t doing much defensively to keep himself there…

 

I keep thinking Devers will improve on D, and he is better than a few years back, but maybe him at 1B, Casas at DH and Yoshi in LF is better than Yosshi at DH. Depending on who plays 3B, we might do better that way.

 

Can Story play 3B with his arm issues? I guess, if he can play SS, then the arm must be okay.

 

Urias at 3B?

 

Sign or trade for one?

[moonslav59]

Devers on D by the numbers...

 

DRS

-13 in 2021 (1300 innings)

-6 in 2022 (1190 innings)

-5 in 2023 in just 950 innings

 

UZR/150 shows improvement

-10.6 '20

-5.8 '21

-1.9 '22

+1.5 '23

 

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Bloom has set this team up to be really good for a long time. He definitely deserves another year even if the Red Sox don't make the playoffs this year. But he has to deliver next season. They have the lineup to get it done, and several stud position prospects are on the way, but where will Bloom find SP upgrades? Let's say Bello is a 3 starter, Houck/Whitlock together a 4th starter, and Crawford a 5th starter, where do the Red Sox find two SPs at the top of the rotation for 2024? I'm not counting on Sale, he is a waste of space, a sunk cost. The Red Sox need to add two quality SPs for 2024 IMO and then we can start thinking about competing for a World Series championship.

[MADSTORK]

Bloom has set this team up to be really good for a long time. He definitely deserves another year even if the Red Sox don't make the playoffs this year. But he has to deliver next season. They have the lineup to get it done, and several stud position prospects are on the way, but where will Bloom find SP upgrades? Let's say Bello is a 3 starter, Houck/Whitlock together a 4th starter, and Crawford a 5th starter, where do the Red Sox find two SPs at the top of the rotation for 2024? I'm not counting on Sale, he is a waste of space, a sunk cost. The Red Sox need to add two quality SPs for 2024 IMO and then we can start thinking about competing for a World Series championship.

 

Lmao!

Your delusional

[notin]

Lmao!

Your delusional

 

I assume you came back to supply those links I asked you for a couple weeks ago…

[Randy Red Sox]

If Devers has "improved" at 3B I sure haven't noticed it.

I keep thinking Devers will improve on D, and he is better than a few years back, but maybe him at 1B, Casas at DH and Yoshi in LF is better than Yosshi at DH. Depending on who plays 3B, we might do better that way.

 

Can Story play 3B with his arm issues? I guess, if he can play SS, then the arm must be okay.

 

Urias at 3B?

 

Sign or trade for one?

[Randy Red Sox]

Bloom has set this team up to be really good for a long time. He definitely deserves another year even if the Red Sox don't make the playoffs this year. But he has to deliver next season. They have the lineup to get it done, and several stud position prospects are on the way, but where will Bloom find SP upgrades? Let's say Bello is a 3 starter, Houck/Whitlock together a 4th starter, and Crawford a 5th starter, where do the Red Sox find two SPs at the top of the rotation for 2024? I'm not counting on Sale, he is a waste of space, a sunk cost. The Red Sox need to add two quality SPs for 2024 IMO and then we can start thinking about competing for a World Series championship.

 

please tell what stud prospects Bloom has added that are close to MLB ready. Even Mayer is struggling at AA right now. There are no SP close to MLB ready so where/how do you get those 2 SP you speak of?? Most likely Bloom simply adds the next Cory Kluber type.

[mvp 78]

Bloom has set this team up to be really good for a long time. He definitely deserves another year even if the Red Sox don't make the playoffs this year. But he has to deliver next season. They have the lineup to get it done, and several stud position prospects are on the way, but where will Bloom find SP upgrades? Let's say Bello is a 3 starter, Houck/Whitlock together a 4th starter, and Crawford a 5th starter, where do the Red Sox find two SPs at the top of the rotation for 2024? I'm not counting on Sale, he is a waste of space, a sunk cost. The Red Sox need to add two quality SPs for 2024 IMO and then we can start thinking about competing for a World Series championship.

 

Yamamoto

Trade prospects for controllable starter

 

There’s two. Will Bloom do it? That’s another question.

 

If JH wants to give this FO another shot, they better hit it out of the park this offseason and get into the playoffs next year. If he wants to move on, find another CBO that can move the franchise on a similar path, but with better MLB roster management. Not sure I can put the roster issues on Cora.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Even if the Red Sox make the unlikely moves this winter to acquire both a #1 and #2 starter for the rotation, the wildly inconsistent offense needs another anchor.

 

And not just another all-or-nothing slugger, but someone who can hit both .300 and 30 home runs. In the recent past, it looked like Raffy would be that guy -- when he regularly used the entire field -- but nobody pulls their head more in every at bat than Devers this year.

 

Raffy would certainly benefit from more protection in the line-up from another hitter like Turner, but ideally someone in his prime that's not as injury-prone. Yoshida is a contact guy, but not a constant power threat. Story and Duvall, even when healthy, aren't feared.

 

Hopefully, Casas will continue to develop, make more contact, and cut down on the Ks; he's already passed Devers in OPS...

[Bellhorn04]

We need someone like Mookie Betts, who can hit, hit for power, is a great fielder, great arm, great baserunner. Guys like that are hard to find, though. Plus only big market teams can afford to keep them.

[notin]

Even if the Red Sox make the unlikely moves this winter to acquire both a #1 and #2 starter for the rotation, the wildly inconsistent offense needs another anchor.

 

And not just another all-or-nothing slugger, but someone who can hit both .300 and 30 home runs. In the recent past, it looked like Raffy would be that guy -- when he regularly used the entire field -- but nobody pulls their head more in every at bat than Devers this year.

 

Raffy would certainly benefit from more protection in the line-up from another hitter like Turner, but ideally someone in his prime that's not as injury-prone. Yoshida is a contact guy, but not a constant power threat. Story and Duvall, even when healthy, aren't feared.

 

Hopefully, Casas will continue to develop, make more contact, and cut down on the Ks; he's already passed Devers in OPS...

 

He’s had a better OPS than Devers most of the season…

[notin]

We need someone like Mookie Betts, who can hit, hit for power, is a great fielder, great arm, great baserunner. Guys like that are hard to find, though. Plus only big market teams can afford to keep them.

 

Well, maybe if we didn’t sign Price and expose Henry to the riskier side of MLB mega-contracts…

[Bellhorn04]

Well, maybe if we didn’t sign Price and expose Henry to the riskier side of MLB mega-contracts…

 

C'mon man.

 

He wasn't exposed to Crawford, Pablo, Hanley and Rusney?

 

Price at least contributed to a championship. The 4 above did less than zero.

 

Plus of course he just inked Raffy for Mookie money.

 

No sale!

[notin]

C'mon man.

 

He wasn't exposed to Crawford, Pablo, Hanley and Rusney?

 

Price at least contributed to a championship. The 4 above did less than zero.

 

Plus of course he just inked Raffy for Mookie money.

 

No sale!

 

Those guys barely combine to make what Price made (in two sets). Price was signed almost 8 years ago and only Devers has topped that deal.

 

And the Sox were able to unload Crawford and lots of other deadweight early on. That deal had 0 Albatrossivity…

[notin]

C'mon man.

 

He wasn't exposed to Crawford, Pablo, Hanley and Rusney?

 

Price at least contributed to a championship. The 4 above did less than zero.

 

Plus of course he just inked Raffy for Mookie money.

 

No sale!

 

Ok so why do you suppose Mookie’s contract demands were excessive in 2020 but Devers’ deal was acceptable in 2023? I

[Bellhorn04]

Those guys barely combine to make what Price made (in two sets).

 

Crawford 142

Pablo 95

Hanley 88

Rusney 73

Total 398

 

Price 217

Edited August 18, 2023 by Bellhorn04

[Bellhorn04]

Ok so why do you suppose Mookie’s contract demands were excessive in 2020 but Devers’ deal was acceptable in 2023? I

 

Great question, better posed to JH.

 

As you know the dark side says the Raffy extension only happened because of the uproar in the Nation at the time.

[Bellhorn04]

Those guys barely combine to make what Price made (in two sets). Price was signed almost 8 years ago and only Devers has topped that deal.

 

And the Sox were able to unload Crawford and lots of other deadweight early on. That deal had 0 Albatrossivity…

 

If we're going to factor in the unloaded part, Price's total net cost was 156 mill (217-31-15-15).

 

That's practically only Trevor Story money!

[Old Red]

Great question, better posed to JH.

 

As you know the dark side says the Raffy extension only happened because of the uproar in the Nation at the time.

 

And because he was the last one standing.

[Bellhorn04]

Mookie is playing like God right now.

 

It was a grotesque blunder by JH.

[redsoxrules]

Let's let Betts walk away because we can't meet his demands but let's meet the demands of a 1 tool player for almost the same cost. Makes sense

 

Sure, Betts deal like every other long term deals will probably suffer at the tail end but it will be way worse when they have to move Devers to DH because he can't field for s***.

 

Like another poster stated here, in a few years they will probably be looking to move Devers and eat some cost doing so

[notin]

Mookie is playing like God right now.

 

It was a grotesque blunder by JH.

 

I want to say it was a complete failure to read the market. But the market for players priced that high already existed. So accusing him of that would be like accusing him of failing to predict the past.

 

I honestly think it was a case of Henry showing his miserly side…

[Bellhorn04]

I want to say it was a complete failure to read the market. But the market for players priced that high already existed. So accusing him of that would be like accusing him of failing to predict the past.

 

I honestly think it was a case of Henry showing his miserly side…

 

Agree.

[notin]

So apparently the Sox aren’t the only team that can’t run the bases. Seattle’s Dylan Moore grounded out to left field yesterday.

 

LEFT field…

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/seattle-mariners-dylan-moore-commits-234829700.html