Fire Bloom .

[dannycater]

On Dermody, if his history is of all these tweets, then that makes Bloom even more of an idiot. The Bruins signed a kid who committed an unspeakable act as a teen by putting a disabled kid head into a toilet and took the backlash and then released him 2 days later. Well, Bloom gets a free pass on this? Nope. This is one of the easiest firings ever. No one will cry for Bloom if he is fired today. Not a single person, but his family.

[dannycater]

Let Wokism be Bloom's demise anyway. Apropro

[dannycater]

To use Bloom's own words on Dermody..."It was a baseball decision." Well, fire Bloom for that alone, Sox

[Jasonbay44]

It is pretty cool that the Red Sox got to have a battery of a racist homophobe and a dude who jerks off in parking lots.

[Dipre]

The Sox have a 5-year plan in place with Bloom. This team went from having the second worst farm system in baseball, to being in the 10-15 range in most publications, graduating Duran, Casas and Bello, and still having 3-4 prospects in the top 100 of most major scouting publications (Some combination of Mayer, York, Bleis, and Rafaela) plus a lot more projectable talent in Summer leagues/A-Ball.

 

He's going nowhere.

[Jasonbay44]

If they were willing to take that backlash they should have signed Trevor Bauer, who is at least talented.

 

I just don’t get why they signed this guy, when literally anyone else could’ve done what he did, defend him, face the backlash… and then release him after the game? Like what was the point

[dannycater]

I just don’t get why they signed this guy, when literally anyone else could’ve done what he did, defend him, face the backlash… and then release him after the game? Like what was the point

 

Because Bloom is an insensitive moron. Both in baseball decisions and moral decisions...He doesn't get it, doesn't understand the timing of Dermody start...you have to be a moron to not realize the backlash comes whether Dermody threw a no hitter or got bombed. Further, you are a bigger moron for backing down to the wok crowd, and then explaining himself that it's a baseball decision. So he lied. Let's defend him by signing him, then throw the guy under a bus during Pride Week...unbelievable.

Edited June 9, 2023 by dannycater

[Dipre]

I just don’t get why they signed this guy, when literally anyone else could’ve done what he did, defend him, face the backlash… and then release him after the game? Like what was the point

 

Look, IRL I work with a lot of people under pressure because they either set up a pyramid scheme, or had an investment fund that flunked. I see a lot of parallels between Bloom's recent actions and people in those kinds of situations, when the pressure really mounts and they start making mistakes.

[Bellhorn04]

On Dermody, if his history is of all these tweets, then that makes Bloom even more of an idiot. The Bruins signed a kid who committed an unspeakable act as a teen by putting a disabled kid head into a toilet and took the backlash and then released him 2 days later. Well, Bloom gets a free pass on this? Nope. This is one of the easiest firings ever. No one will cry for Bloom if he is fired today. Not a single person, but his family.

 

To be fair, Danny, the Bruins might have taken backlash, but they didn't fire anybody, they just got rid of the player.

[dannycater]

To be fair, Danny, the Bruins might have taken backlash, but they didn't fire anybody, they just got rid of the player.

 

True, but I'm saying the Sox have a great excuse now to just Fire Bloom--they can just use the poor judgment excuse that has fired many people in many professions over the last few years.

[mvp 78]

It is pretty cool that the Red Sox got to have a battery of a racist homophobe and a dude who jerks off in parking lots.

 

At some point, Column B is just a really stupid decision that makes McGuire just look ridiculous but really didn't outwardly hurt anyone but his own reputation.

[mvp 78]

The Sox have a 5-year plan in place with Bloom. This team went from having the second worst farm system in baseball, to being in the 10-15 range in most publications, graduating Duran, Casas and Bello, and still having 3-4 prospects in the top 100 of most major scouting publications (Some combination of Mayer, York, Bleis, and Rafaela) plus a lot more projectable talent in Summer leagues/A-Ball.

 

He's going nowhere.

 

That was inevitable by simply hoarding prospects for a few years. I don't think Bloom really invented the wheel.

[mvp 78]

True, but I'm saying the Sox have a great excuse now to just Fire Bloom--they can just use the poor judgment excuse that has fired many people in many professions over the last few years.

 

If they fire Bloom, it will have zero to do with Durrmody.

[mvp 78]

Actually, there's a good chance Durrmody passes through waivers and is sent to WOO again.

[Bellhorn04]

Actually, there's a good chance Durrmody passes through waivers and is sent to WOO again.

 

Dear God no.

[dannycater]

Tapia got dropped after actually doing a few things...typical of Sox.

[Dipre]

That was inevitable by simply hoarding prospects for a few years. I don't think Bloom really invented the wheel.

 

But the directive was "build up the farm system", and he's done that. Also, you can hoard a bunch of prospects, and they can all suck. Drafting is both a science and an art. Not trying to defend Bloom here, just trying to look at things objectively.

[Bellhorn04]

The 5 year plan idea makes a lot of sense. It explains why they held back on spending this year and why they keep signing starting pitchers to 1 year deals. Presumably they'll make some big moves next offseason. But man, are they going to endure a lot of abuse in the meantime.

[mvp 78]

But the directive was "build up the farm system", and he's done that. Also, you can hoard a bunch of prospects, and they can all suck. Drafting is both a science and an art. Not trying to defend Bloom here, just trying to look at things objectively.

 

He's not the guy doing all the scouting. He's the guy listening to the scouting and picking from a hat. The rankings are based on the top tier talent (Rafaela, Bleis, Mayer). Rafaela is a DD guy. Bleis is a highly ranked IFA guy that Bloom didn't scout. Mayer fell into his lap. Bloom would have a higher ranked farm if he half assed his way into getting some pitching talent.

[mvp 78]

The 5 year plan idea makes a lot of sense. It explains why they held back on spending this year and why they keep signing starting pitchers to 1 year deals. Presumably they'll make some big moves next offseason. But man, are they going to endure a lot of abuse in the meantime.

 

A reason for Henry to keep Bloom around until he's ready to spend again.

[Bellhorn04]

A reason for Henry to keep Bloom around until he's ready to spend again.

 

Yep, keep Chaim out front alternately offering valid explanations and pure lies.

[moonslav59]

That was inevitable by simply hoarding prospects for a few years. I don't think Bloom really invented the wheel.

 

No, but other GMs do otherwise.

 

How well these additions do years from now will likely be realised- for good, bad or meh, after Bloom is gone.

[Dipre]

He's not the guy doing all the scouting. He's the guy listening to the scouting and picking from a hat. The rankings are based on the top tier talent (Rafaela, Bleis, Mayer). Rafaela is a DD guy. Bleis is a highly ranked IFA guy that Bloom didn't scout. Mayer fell into his lap. Bloom would have a higher ranked farm if he half assed his way into getting some pitching talent.

 

Bro, that's how it works in any corporate environment. Grunts do all the hard work, boss gets the hoopla if things go well, or the axe if things go badly and he doesn't find a scapegoat. I don't see any of you blaming the scouting department on their inability to find pitching in the later rounds.

[redsoxrules]

1. Devers is not a 300M man.

2. Devers only has one skill: hitting.

3. Devers doesn't have a good IQ.

4. Devers is possibly immature and needs a binky.

5. Not hating on Devers though!

 

Yes, those are points to as to why the FO should not have paid him 300 Million.

 

What happens during stretches like this that Devers is having in terms of production? Absolutely nothing. At least if he was a top notch defender like a Machado or Arenado he would still be Impactful to the team in a way. In order for him to be worth 300 Million he'd need to OPS in the 950 -1000 range every year. Like a David Ortiz type thing. He's not that player so why pay him over 300 Million?

 

I've said this many times. His comp is Matt Olson. Is he getting 300 Million? f*** no.

[mvp 78]

Bro, that's how it works in any corporate environment. Grunts do all the hard work, boss gets the hoopla if things go well, or the axe if things go badly and he doesn't find a scapegoat.

 

Yes, we know. I'm not sure anyone on here has actually seen what Bloom has done that has added value to what was already part of the Sox organization.

 

BOH was already here. The scouts were already here.

[Hugh2]

Dear God no.

 

I mean, our we that concerned with the AAA roster.

[Dipre]

Yes, those are points to as to why the FO should not have paid him 300 Million.

 

What happens during stretches like this that Devers is having in terms of production? Absolutely nothing. At least if he was a top notch defender like a Machado or Arenado he would still be Impactful to the team in a way. In order for him to be worth 300 Million he'd need to OPS in the 950 -1000 range every year. Like a David Ortiz type thing. He's not that player so why pay him over 300 Million?

 

I've said this many times. His comp is Matt Olson. Is he getting 300 Million? f*** no.

 

If Matt Olson was 25/26 with the track record of production Devers has while playing 3B instead of 1B, he'd get 300MM easy in the current MLB economic climate. Kinda reactionary to be so down on Devers over what amounts to a bad month. Ever thought of rooting for the Phillies? Because you're very Phillie Fan-ish in this whole "Turn on a player if he struggles for more than a week" thing. right now.

[mvp 78]

Ever thought of rooting for the Phillies? Because you're very Phillie Fan-ish in this whole "Turn on a player if he struggles for more than a week" thing. right now.

 

This is they poster they've always been.

[moonslav59]

The 5 year plan idea makes a lot of sense. It explains why they held back on spending this year and why they keep signing starting pitchers to 1 year deals. Presumably they'll make some big moves next offseason. But man, are they going to endure a lot of abuse in the meantime.

 

Yup!

 

I knew we had some serious rebuilding to do but thought it could be done in less than 5 years with continued prudent spending.

[Randy Red Sox]

This is one of the most sensible posts I have read on here. Can someone name a SINGLE TOP pitching prospect Bloom has drafted or acquired other than Whitlock? The franchise from which Bloom came from { Tampa} was so adept at acquiring top young pitching talent. I am not interested in some 5 year plan. This is the Boston Red Sox not some small market team. I have zero faith that Bloom can put a true contender of the field in 2024.

He's not the guy doing all the scouting. He's the guy listening to the scouting and picking from a hat. The rankings are based on the top tier talent (Rafaela, Bleis, Mayer). Rafaela is a DD guy. Bleis is a highly ranked IFA guy that Bloom didn't scout. Mayer fell into his lap. Bloom would have a higher ranked farm if he half assed his way into getting some pitching talent.