Fire Bloom .

[notin]

My warm and fuzzies about Winckowski making the Beni trade pay off are fading.

 

He is disappointing lately, but at 103 IP, he also might be wearing down physically. His career high in IP is only 127 and that was back in 2019…

[Bellhorn04]

He is disappointing lately, but at 103 IP, he also might be wearing down physically. His career high in IP is only 127 and that was back in 2019…

 

Another silver lining found.

[JDavis76]

He is disappointing lately, but at 103 IP, he also might be wearing down physically. His career high in IP is only 127 and that was back in 2019…

 

[cp176]

He is disappointing lately, but at 103 IP, he also might be wearing down physically. His career high in IP is only 127 and that was back in 2019…

 

You might be right I guess but tell me what is wrong with this picture if he is tired and worn. He is 24 - 6'4" and weighs over 200 pounds.

[JDavis76]

You might be right I guess but tell me what is wrong with this picture if he is tired and worn. He is 24 - 6'4" and weighs over 200 pounds.

 

It's just another excuse by one of the Spin Doctors.......

[moonslav59]

My warm and fuzzies about Winckowski making the Beni trade pay off are fading.

 

For sure. It looks like it's down to the low minor prospects we got.

 

Strike 1: Cordero

 

Strike 2: Wink

 

...

[moonslav59]

Another good one, Skeeter.

 

I'm guilty for being optimistic about some Sox players and prospects. What a lousy fan I am.

[Bellhorn04]

I'm guilty for being optimistic about some Sox players and prospects. What a lousy fan I am.

 

Unfortunately, Skeeter is the price we pay for posting on a lightly moderated board.

[notin]

It's just another excuse by one of the Spin Doctors.......

 

I only speak in possibilities as I don’t have access to actual players.

 

Winckowski has a 5.83 ERA in 61 IP at age 24. Did you also give up on Nestor Cortes at his 5.83 ERA after 66 IP at that same age? Or os the hard line between “potential” and “flop” somewhere between an ERA of 5.67 and 5.83?

[Bellhorn04]

I only speak in possibilities as I don’t have access to actual players.

 

Winckowski has a 5.83 ERA in 61 IP at age 24. Did you also give up on Nestor Cortes at his 5.83 ERA after 66 IP at that same age? Or os the hard line between “potential” and “flop” somewhere between an ERA of 5.67 and 5.83?

 

notin, you must be incredibly bored to try reasoning with Skeeter.

[Elktonnick]

Yes l they should edit every non positive post.

[Bellhorn04]

Yes l they should edit every non positive post.

 

Pardon?

[moonslav59]

Pardon?

 

Never took the Elk to be a censorship hound.

[Elktonnick]

Never took the Elk to be a censorship hound.

I am not. That was a sarcastic response.

[JDavis76]

I only speak in possibilities as I don’t have access to actual players.

 

Winckowski has a 5.83 ERA in 61 IP at age 24. Did you also give up on Nestor Cortes at his 5.83 ERA after 66 IP at that same age? Or os the hard line between “potential” and “flop” somewhere between an ERA of 5.67 and 5.83?

 

Well, at no point was I ever bragging about Nasty Nestor as being a big "get" in a trade, either......

[moonslav59]

I am not. That was a sarcastic response.

 

I figured it had to be.

[dgalehouse]

That team had just won three al east titles in a row and a World Series they have one year they play .500 ball and you panic if you think about it Betts was the big bucks, he got traded I think they could have gotten more especially with Sox picking up half of Price money but I understand that move but Benny was low cost they signed Xander anyways and they let Bradley walk, everything good so far except Benny, Moreland free agent, Holt gone to, so the team needs two outfielders first ban and second baseman in three years we have filled the second base position, this is what bothers me, Hose I believe is a free agent, Kiki free agent, give me two outfielders and a first baseman three guys that are good quality players at their position, Freddy Freeman is not necessary it’s been way to long, that’s not asking for a lot, I didn’t mention the pitchers because it’s a different can of worms

 

Benintendi is a good ballplayer. The Sox made a bad trade. That should be obvious even though some will not admit it.

[Old Red]

Benintendi is a good ballplayer. The Sox made a bad trade. That should be obvious even though some will not admit it.

 

The fact that Franchy is still on the big club playing 1B no less was a joke the first time, but to do it again is just plain incompetent by either Bloom, Cora, or both.

[Bellhorn04]

Benintendi is a good ballplayer. The Sox made a bad trade. That should be obvious even though some will not admit it.

 

The trade looked a lot better when Winckowski was pitching well. Hopefully that's not talking out of turn...

[Old Red]

The trade looked a lot better when Winckowski was pitching well. Hopefully that's not talking out of turn...

 

I don’t think Winck will ever be much more than a 6th, or 7th starter on a LAST PLACE team like the Sox.

Edited August 24, 2022 by Old Red

[dgalehouse]

The trade looked a lot better when Winckowski was pitching well. Hopefully that's not talking out of turn...

 

He looks like just another jabroni.

[JDavis76]

Benintendi is a good ballplayer. The Sox made a bad trade. That should be obvious even though some will not admit it.

 

Hmmm, wonder who that could be........

[moonslav59]

Benintendi is a good ballplayer. The Sox made a bad trade. That should be obvious even though some will not admit it.

 

Some won't admit it's too early to judge a trade for prospects.

 

Beni was a fine player. I doubt he'd have made much of a difference, but he was a plus player.

 

His team control ends, this winter, so his half of the trade is just about in the books.

 

So far, it looks like a bad trade. Cordero has sucked. Wink no longer looks all that promising, but there is still time to turn it around.

 

The other 3 prospects are far away from the bigs, and mjay easily amount to squat.... or not.

 

The $3M saved year one was used to sign an OF'er named Renfroe. One can choose to not count that as part of the trade, or sub Marwin's name for Renfroe, and the dynamic changes significantly.

 

Fill in the blank on who we signed for Beni's second year.

[Old Red]

Some won't admit it's too early to judge a trade for prospects.

 

Beni was a fine player. I doubt he'd have made much of a difference, but he was a plus player.

 

His team control ends, this winter, so his half of the trade is just about in the books.

 

So far, it looks like a bad trade. Cordero has sucked. Wink no longer looks all that promising, but there is still time to turn it around.

 

The other 3 prospects are far away from the bigs, and mjay easily amount to squat.... or not.

 

The $3M saved year one was used to sign an OF'er named Renfroe. One can choose to not count that as part of the trade, or sub Marwin's name for Renfroe, and the dynamic changes significantly.

 

Fill in the blank on who we signed for Beni's second year.

Franchy, and Wink don’t even look good on a LAST PLACE team. Beni gets to play on a 1st place team. Poor poor JH who couldn’t have come up with the $3M anyway to sign Renfroe. Maybe we should take up a collection. NOT!

Edited August 24, 2022 by Old Red

[Bellhorn04]

Beni has 4 HR and 49 RBI. If he was on the Sox with those numbers, he'd be taking his fair share of abuse.

[Old Red]

Beni has 4 HR and 49 RBI. If he was on the Sox with those numbers, he'd be taking his fair share of abuse.

 

Yes he would, but it still doesn’t take away it was a bad trade, and Blooms evaluation of who he got back is a big question mark again. Hello Jeter Downs. Maybe he should try a different computer.

[notin]

notin, you must be incredibly bored to try reasoning with Skeeter.

 

Work trip to Connecticut. So, yes. Bored…

[notin]

Benintendi is a good ballplayer. The Sox made a bad trade. That should be obvious even though some will not admit it.

 

It should also be obvious that the Sox went 33-14 over a 47 game stretch - which did clearly not take place over 2 weeks against a couple bad teams - during which they lost 3 starting pitchers (Eovaldi, Whitlock and Hill) and would 2 more (Wacha and Sale) shortly after. If you think “everyone has injuries”, please name another team that lost five SPs over a 4 week stretch…

[Old Red]

It should also be obvious that the Sox went 33-14 over a 47 game stretch - which did clearly not take place over 2 weeks against a couple bad teams - during which they lost 3 starting pitchers (Eovaldi, Whitlock and Hill) and would 2 more (Wacha and Sale) shortly after. If you think “everyone has injuries”, please name another team that lost five SPs over a 4 week stretch…

What’s this got to do with Beni, and the bad trade? Are you talking about the FANTASY month of June again? We get it that injuries played a big part of this season, and so didn’t the big bats not coming up big, and the bad D, and yes the mismanagement from BLOOM. Got it, and LAST PLACE is a result, and heads should roll.

Edited August 24, 2022 by Old Red

[JDavis76]

It should also be obvious that the Sox went 33-14 over a 47 game stretch - which did clearly not take place over 2 weeks against a couple bad teams - during which they lost 3 starting pitchers (Eovaldi, Whitlock and Hill) and would 2 more (Wacha and Sale) shortly after. If you think “everyone has injuries”, please name another team that lost five SPs over a 4 week stretch…

 

It primarily did take place against the weakest part of their schedule, no way to Spin that, Doctor.