Who gets sent down from the rotation once Sale is back?

[Bellhorn04]

Brewer is not in the rotation but might win the poll anyway.

[illinoisredsox]

Brewer was DFAd

[moonslav59]

Brewer was DFAd

 

Will anyone claim him, or do we work out a trade?

 

Probably we get nothing.

Edited June 3, 2021 by moonslav59

[Larry Cook]

Brewer was DFAd

 

Hang’em Chaim moving decisively! You gotta live that!

[TylerD]

How we all feeling about Sawamura? He’s been good. I like him.

[notin]

Will anyone claim him, or do we work out a trade?

 

Probably we get nothing.

 

Minimum wage plus MLB experience?

 

He’ll probably get claimed...

[Bellhorn04]

How we all feeling about Sawamura? He’s been good. I like him.

 

He kicked ass last night, that's for sure.

[moonslav59]

He kicked ass last night, that's for sure.

 

I guess you're only as good as your last game.

[Bellhorn04]

I guess you're only as good as your last game.

 

He's been up and down, and I never would have predicted Cora would go to him for 2 innings last night. But he sure came through.

[moonslav59]

He's been up and down, and I never would have predicted Cora would go to him for 2 innings last night. But he sure came through.

 

I was surprised, too, but maybe the match-ups favored him over DHern or Whitlock.

 

I'm not sure bringing in ex-Yankees, Ottavino or Whitlock, would have worked, but in hindsight, Cora was a genius, last night.

 

Had Sawamura been lit up, we'd have a 100 posts roasting Cora alive.

[TylerD]

He kicked ass last night, that's for sure.

 

He was deadly!!! Love his stuff.

[moonslav59]

He was deadly!!! Love his stuff.

 

He had fire in his eyes, and his body language was clear.

[Larry Cook]

I was surprised, too, but maybe the match-ups favored him over DHern or Whitlock.

 

I'm not sure bringing in ex-Yankees, Ottavino or Whitlock, would have worked, but in hindsight, Cora was a genius, last night.

 

Had Sawamura been lit up, we'd have a 100 posts roasting Cora alive.

 

I agree. I am concerned about how Hernandez stuff will play in New York.

[moonslav59]

I agree. I am concerned about how Hernandez stuff will play in New York.

 

He's had just a tiny sample size in Yankee Stadium (The Yanks are 0-4 off him with 2 BBs- Career)

[Larry Cook]

Whitlock and ottavino threw really well today.

 

Let’s hope that if we need Hernandez tomorrow, he is a beast!

[TylerD]

Whitlock and ottavino threw really well today.

 

Let’s hope that if we need Hernandez tomorrow, he is a beast!

 

Workman also didn't give up any runs (I don't believe)

 

If Nate pitched like he is capable of, this is a very winnable game. Hard to win games when you get down early and your "Ace" gives up 11 hits... Ugly day for him. But the Astros just straight up own us so far this year.

[Bellhorn04]

Workman also didn't give up any runs (I don't believe)

 

If Nate pitched like he is capable of, this is a very winnable game. Hard to win games when you get down early and your "Ace" gives up 11 hits... Ugly day for him. But the Astros just straight up own us so far this year.

 

I think the Astros are cheating again, somehow. Especially when they play against us.

[TylerD]

I think the Astros are cheating again, somehow. Especially when they play against us.

 

I think they just have our number. Jays are having a nice season and Astros destroyed them too. I think when fully healthy the Astros are just a damn good team. Wouldn’t be surprised if they go back to the WS

[notin]

I think they just have our number. Jays are having a nice season and Astros destroyed them too. I think when fully healthy the Astros are just a damn good team. Wouldn’t be surprised if they go back to the WS

 

While a lot of talking heads praising the Jays for their Legacy Infield prospects, the Astros were quietly developing some serious quality arms...

[TylerD]

While a lot of talking heads praising the Jays for their Legacy Infield prospects, the Astros were quietly developing some serious quality arms...

 

Yup you got that right. I didn’t even take note until just recently. I knew they had a quality offense but didn’t realize the depth of pitching they have. They have all the right tools to make a serious run again at the World Series.

[Larry Cook]

I think the Astros are cheating again, somehow. Especially when they play against us.

 

Today’s game is currently 12 to 8 in the 7th inning. What the astros hitters are doing makes no sense. Either they have esp or more likely I think, something is wrong in Denmark!

 

Where are the Major League Baseball sign cheating people? The astros are definitely up to something.

[TylerD]

Our entire rotation is not very good. I don’t even know anymore

[Larry Cook]

Our entire rotation is not very good. I don’t even know anymore

 

Our rotation seems to pitch much better away fro. Fenway.

[moonslav59]

We went from 4 decent starters and ERod to ERod now being decent and the others looking like crap in their last 1-2 starts.

 

I hope this is just a blip, or we could be out of it by the deadline. Our pen cannot carry our starters for all that long. Our bats can pull games out of our asses much longer, either.

[Bellhorn04]

Our rotation seems to pitch much better away fro. Fenway.

 

Very true.

[redsoxrules]

Over the last 18 starts the starting rotation has an ERA of 5.50. This is more than a blip. We need Sale back

[moonslav59]

Over the last 18 starts the starting rotation has an ERA of 5.50. This is more than a blip. We need Sale back

 

We've seen whole teams go into batting slumps, including the Sox, so I guess this should not be all that surprising, especially when you consider all but ERod were pitching above winter/spring expectations.

 

Our starters' last 3 starts:

In reverse order... IP ER

 

Pivetta 5.74 in 15.2IP (24 H+BB+HBP) .306 BAbip

5.0 6

4.2 2

6.0 2

 

Richards 4.96 in 16.1 IP (31 H+BB+HBP) .423 BAbip

5.1 4

5.0 3

6.0 2

 

ERod 9.20 (24 H+BB+HBP) .375 BAbip

4.2 6

5.1 3

4.2 6

 

Eovaldi 3.18 in 17 IP (27 H+BB+HBP) .404 BAbip

5.2 5

6.0 1

5.1 0

 

Perez 4.91 in 14.2 IP (22 H+BB+HBP) .319 BAbip

2.0 6

7.2 0

5.0 2

 

The reason I said it might be a blip, is that if you take away just the last start from these 5, the numbers look much MUCH better in their previous 2 starts for all but 1 of the 5 (ERod).

 

Pervious 2 starts:

10.2 IP 4 ER Pivetta 3.37 ERA

11.0 IP 5 ER Richards 4.09 ERA

10.0 IP 9 ER ERod 8.10 ERA

11.1 IP 1 ER Eovaldi 0.79 ERA

12.2 IP 2 ER Perez 1.42 ERA

[Hugh2]

What can we even realistically expect from Sale?

 

Let’s say he’s not 100% you’d take just him being out there getting healthy again with the hope that he’s a top pitcher in MLB in 2022.

 

Let’s say he returns and is as good as ever, which I think is very plausible. Now you have to limit his Innings. What can we realistically expect from him come October?

 

Realistically, we need another ACE, and Eros underperforming really makes things complicated for this team.

[moonslav59]

Over the last 18 starts the starting rotation has an ERA of 5.50. This is more than a blip. We need Sale back

 

Starter ERA...

 

10.72 last 5 starts

2.83 previous 5 starts

4.00 previous 5 starts

5.33 previous 5 starts

4.88 previous 5 starts

4.08 previous 5 starts

3.95 previous 5

5.33 before that

2.36 before that

4.08 before that

6.12 before that (including doubleheader)

2.66 before that (other doubleheader included)

4.18 before that

4.67 in their first 4 starts of the season

 

It seems like 4 of their last 5 sets of starts have not been very good.

 

[moonslav59]

What can we even realistically expect from Sale?

 

Let’s say he’s not 100% you’d take just him being out there getting healthy again with the hope that he’s a top pitcher in MLB in 2022.

 

Let’s say he returns and is as good as ever, which I think is very plausible. Now you have to limit his Innings. What can we realistically expect from him come October?

 

Realistically, we need another ACE, and Eros underperforming really makes things complicated for this team.

 

Best realistic expectation?

 

He comes back in mid to late July.

He struggles for a few games-maybe 1-2 in relief.

He does okay in mid to late August, but may have a bad outing here and there.

By the end of September, he's at about 85-90% of his former self but only going 5 innings of 75-80 pitches.

If we make the playoffs, he is our ace, again, but he can only give us 80-90 pitches per start.

 

That's probably best case scenario, yet still realistic.