Will The MLB Suspend The 2020 season

[Thunder]

My prediction is that there will be no season and the owners will blame it on the safety limitations from the virus... but it will be about $.

 

I've been thinking that since this BS began

[Kimmi]

My prediction is that there will be no season and the owners will blame it on the safety limitations from the virus... but it will be about $.

 

Well, Manfred has stated that there will be a season, 100% guaranteed. However, with the new spikes occurring in several states, the season could very well be in jeopardy. A player and a pitching coach have recently tested positive for the coronavirus.

 

This whole process between the owners and the players has been one big screw up.

[a700hitter]

Well, Manfred has stated that there will be a season, 100% guaranteed. However, with the new spikes occurring in several states, the season could very well be in jeopardy. A player and a pitching coach have recently tested positive for the coronavirus.

 

This whole process between the owners and the players has been one big screw up.

I just don’t want to get my hopes up. If they have some sort of a season, it will be a pleasant surprise for me.

[oldtimer]

Well, Manfred has stated that there will be a season, 100% guaranteed. However, with the new spikes occurring in several states, the season could very well be in jeopardy. A player and a pitching coach have recently tested positive for the coronavirus.

 

This whole process between the owners and the players has been one big screw up.

 

We are seeing new spikes in some states. Small wonder with the protests and riots on the one hand and the carelessness exhibited at bars, pool parties and the beach as reported on TV. I would guess a large number of people are still, observing social distancing, hand cleaning and face mask use, but many don't. It could well doom any world series if we get a strong return of the virus in the fall.

 

I doubt if cooler heads will prevail during the negotiations. A 50 game season won't be satisfying and will hurt the game long term. It may be best to let the season go and better luck in 2021, provided there isn't a prolonged strike to kick off next year.

[jad]

You're right. This is becoming a PR contest where both sides are trying to "demonize" the other to gain public favor. It's also worth mentioning that the owners have the upper hand in this discussion because we know how much money the players make but we have no idea how much the owners are making.

 

Negotiations should never go public. Going public is an attempt to garner public support for one side of the negotiations while the public has no real significant financial stake in the outcome.

 

My prediction is that there will be no season and the owners will blame it on the safety limitations from the virus... but it will be about $.

 

We are seeing new spikes in some states. Small wonder with the protests and riots on the one hand and the carelessness exhibited at bars, pool parties and the beach as reported on TV. I would guess a large number of people are still, observing social distancing, hand cleaning and face mask use, but many don't. It could well doom any world series if we get a strong return of the virus in the fall.

 

I doubt if cooler heads will prevail during the negotiations. A 50 game season won't be satisfying and will hurt the game long term. It may be best to let the season go and better luck in 2021, provided there isn't a prolonged strike to kick off next year.

 

But if this season goes (and I think it will--- i.e., Manfred will impose his 50 game season and players, either en masse or individually, will refuse to play), it's almost CERTAIN that that will bleed into next season. The owners will then doubtless act as they usually do (like dumbasses) and will also almost certainly run afoul of laws against collusion (as they did years ago). I can't see how there will be a 2021 season free of acrimony, which almost certainly will end in a strike.

[Kimmi]

I just don’t want to get my hopes up. If they have some sort of a season, it will be a pleasant surprise for me.

 

I get that. I will still be very disappointed if they don't have a season.

 

It appears that we may be headed towards a 50 game mandated season with many replacement players.

 

Baseball really screwed this up.

[Kimmi]

We are seeing new spikes in some states. Small wonder with the protests and riots on the one hand and the carelessness exhibited at bars, pool parties and the beach as reported on TV. I would guess a large number of people are still, observing social distancing, hand cleaning and face mask use, but many don't. It could well doom any world series if we get a strong return of the virus in the fall.

 

I doubt if cooler heads will prevail during the negotiations. A 50 game season won't be satisfying and will hurt the game long term. It may be best to let the season go and better luck in 2021, provided there isn't a prolonged strike to kick off next year.

 

Yes, the number of people that are being careless in public is rather concerning. It could end the season before it really even gets started.

 

The latest is that the players will not offer another counter proposal. Their mantra is now to tell them when and where to show up. I am pretty much over the whole process. It's been going on for weeks, haggling over money that neither side needs. Regardless of what happens now, whether they play or not, whether the two sides reach an agreement or not, the damage is done.

 

And it sounds like things will remain ugly in the 2021 season.

[Kimmi]

But if this season goes (and I think it will--- i.e., Manfred will impose his 50 game season and players, either en masse or individually, will refuse to play), it's almost CERTAIN that that will bleed into next season. The owners will then doubtless act as they usually do (like dumbasses) and will also almost certainly run afoul of laws against collusion (as they did years ago). I can't see how there will be a 2021 season free of acrimony, which almost certainly will end in a strike.

 

As of now, there are 2 owners who are stating that they don't want a season. If I'm not mistaken, if 8 owners agree not to have a season, then they won't have a season.

[mvp 78]

@DanielDescalso

MLB: Do you want a half dozen donuts?

MLBPA: No.

MLB: Oh, So you want 6?

MLBPA: That’s the same thing

MLB: Our mistake. How about 2 sets of 3?

MLBPA: Never mind.

MLB: Wait wait, I can give you 3 sets of 2. How’s that?

[Elktonnick]

As of now, there are 2 owners who are stating that they don't want a season. If I'm not mistaken, if 8 owners agree not to have a season, then they won't have a season.

Which owners? Small market ones with a weak local TV contract? I am curious as to their reason.

[jad]

@DanielDescalso

MLB: Do you want a half dozen donuts?

MLBPA: No.

MLB: Oh, So you want 6?

MLBPA: That’s the same thing

MLB: Our mistake. How about 2 sets of 3?

MLBPA: Never mind.

MLB: Wait wait, I can give you 3 sets of 2. How’s that?

 

Exactly. Except your omission of: MLB: What is WRONG with you? I can't believe you're so obstinate.

[jad]

It's beginning to look like Manfred and a group of owners really do not want a season. I'm not sure how they do not realize that a baseball-free year, leading to an acrimonious spring, likely ending in a strike, will not dramatically decrease the value of their franchises. Given the idiocy of the owners, this is something I would almost welcome. A new professional league run by people who are not committed to ruining the sport (e.g., by getting rid of minor leagues) might actually work, given that players may well not get any of the money in those so-called guaranteed contracts with MLB: the present owners have not given ANY indication they are serious about a season. They HAVE given an indication that they would love to get the income generated by a post-season. (But after all this, who would want to watch?)

[a700hitter]

[h=1]Rob Manfred No Longer Confident 2020 Season Will Occur[/h]By Connor Byrne | June 15, 2020 at 3:58pm CDT

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/06/rob-manfred-no-longer-confident-2020-season-will-occur.html

[Elktonnick]

It's beginning to look like Manfred and a group of owners really do not want a season. I'm not sure how they do not realize that a baseball-free year, leading to an acrimonious spring, likely ending in a strike, will not dramatically decrease the value of their franchises. Given the idiocy of the owners, this is something I would almost welcome. A new professional league run by people who are not committed to ruining the sport (e.g., by getting rid of minor leagues) might actually work, given that players may well not get any of the money in those so-called guaranteed contracts with MLB: the present owners have not given ANY indication they are serious about a season. They HAVE given an indication that they would love to get the income generated by a post-season. (But after all this, who would want to watch?)

Manfred is now quoted as saying that he is not confident that they will play this year after all. I say if they do not play they will drive one more nail in baseball's coffin.

[oldtimer]

It's beginning to look like Manfred and a group of owners really do not want a season. I'm not sure how they do not realize that a baseball-free year, leading to an acrimonious spring, likely ending in a strike, will not dramatically decrease the value of their franchises. Given the idiocy of the owners, this is something I would almost welcome. A new professional league run by people who are not committed to ruining the sport (e.g., by getting rid of minor leagues) might actually work, given that players may well not get any of the money in those so-called guaranteed contracts with MLB: the present owners have not given ANY indication they are serious about a season. They HAVE given an indication that they would love to get the income generated by a post-season. (But after all this, who would want to watch?)

 

There was no give from the players either, after it became evident that there would be no fans allowed. They also stand to lose if there is no season and if they strike in 2021 there might be reduced salaries or none at all. Its a pipe dream to assume the players could develop a league of their own and be successful. What I hear on this site is that it is all the owners fault for not agreeing to a money losing arrangement. In my view, the players are equally at fault and stand to lose a lot as well.

[Bellhorn04]

Baseball is clearly the most f***ed up of the major sports.

[Elktonnick]

Baseball is clearly the most f***ed up of the major sports.

Too.much money too much greed. No one wanted to find a solution. Pox on both their houses.

[Kimmi]

Which owners? Small market ones with a weak local TV contract? I am curious as to their reason.

 

They never mentioned which owners.

[Kimmi]

There was no give from the players either, after it became evident that there would be no fans allowed. They also stand to lose if there is no season and if they strike in 2021 there might be reduced salaries or none at all. Its a pipe dream to assume the players could develop a league of their own and be successful. What I hear on this site is that it is all the owners fault for not agreeing to a money losing arrangement. In my view, the players are equally at fault and stand to lose a lot as well.

 

Spot on.

[Kimmi]

Baseball is clearly the most f***ed up of the major sports.

 

Also spot on.

[Thunder]

Baseball is clearly the most f***ed up of the major sports.

 

And the most f***ed of the major sports. I don't think they are surviving this, as I've said before. Fan base isn't there, and the CBA runs out after next season. That's going to be hell

[jad]

I am still astounded at the stupidity of the owners, playing the blame game. Let's just suppose the blame is shared equally (I don't believe that, but nevermind!). Why don't the owners see that this does not work to their benefit? If fans hate the owners and support the players, then when baseball starts, they'll watch it, supporting the players. But if the owners succeed in making the fans blame and hate the players, guess what: they WON'T go to the games. How do the owners figure that's a win? (Unless, as I suspect, their egos mean more to them than the success of this particular business.)

[Thunder]

I am still astounded at the stupidity of the owners, playing the blame game. Let's just suppose the blame is shared equally (I don't believe that, but nevermind!). Why don't the owners see that this does not work to their benefit? If fans hate the owners and support the players, then when baseball starts, they'll watch it, supporting the players. But if the owners succeed in making the fans blame and hate the players, guess what: they WON'T go to the games. How do the owners figure that's a win? (Unless, as I suspect, their egos mean more to them than the success of this particular business.)

 

That, my friend, is the long-established tragic flaw of the human race

[moonslav59]

I am still astounded at the stupidity of the owners, playing the blame game. Let's just suppose the blame is shared equally (I don't believe that, but nevermind!). Why don't the owners see that this does not work to their benefit? If fans hate the owners and support the players, then when baseball starts, they'll watch it, supporting the players. But if the owners succeed in making the fans blame and hate the players, guess what: they WON'T go to the games. How do the owners figure that's a win? (Unless, as I suspect, their egos mean more to them than the success of this particular business.)

 

You need to post more often.

[mvp 78]

Multiple MLB players and staff members have tested positive for COVID-19, the league informed the MLB Players Association in a letter sent Monday.

 

As part of a seven-page letter sent to union chief negotiator Bruce Meyer, MLB deputy commissioner Dan Halem said “several” players and staffers have tested positive, according to the Associated Press.

[Thunder]

Multiple MLB players and staff members have tested positive for COVID-19, the league informed the MLB Players Association in a letter sent Monday.

 

As part of a seven-page letter sent to union chief negotiator Bruce Meyer, MLB deputy commissioner Dan Halem said “several” players and staffers have tested positive, according to the Associated Press.

 

Please be Manny Machado......

 

Kidding of course. Wouldn't wish it on anybody

[jad]

You need to post more often.

 

But then, gosh, people disagree sometimes, and ... and even say mean and hurtful things to me ...

[moonslav59]

But then, gosh, people disagree sometimes, and ... and even say mean and hurtful things to me ...

 

Shut the F&%#! UP!

 

[jacksonianmarch]

Manfred is the worst commissioner in sports.

[moonslav59]

Manfred is the worst commissioner in sports.

 

This is very true, but the amazing thing about it is that the others are pretty bad.