The annual Jackie Bradley Jr thread (2019 Edition)

[mvp 78]

Some fun research on outfield defense and jump https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/jump?year=2019&min=q

 

Interesting that JBJ uses athleticism to overcome bad route running.

[SCM33]

You should read his deep commentary in the Chavis and The Pen threads.

 

Although it will be 20 seconds of your life you won’t get back.

 

All of you idiots from that other s***** board that who joined in April of 2016 really ruined this place. This place sucks now, and its because of you guys.

Edited June 12, 2019 by SCM33
Inappropriate comment, apologies.

[Slasher9]

Some fun research on outfield defense and jump https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/jump?year=2019&min=q

 

yup. his reaction is amazing. His outfield jump is A+.

hopefully WTF Cora doesnt "rest" him anymore from roaming CF....

[Slasher9]

All of you idiots from that other s***** board that who joined in April of 2016 really ruined this place. This place sucks now, and its because of you guys. f*** you *******.

 

Same for nothin and moonfag

 

OK. Go ahead and start an old timey thread from before April of 2016 so i can see what you mean.

also, pretty ignorant to use the term f#g in this day and and age. especially this month.

[notin]

yup. his reaction is amazing. His outfield jump is A+.

hopefully WTF Cora doesnt "rest" him anymore from roaming CF....

 

I get the importance of rest and recovery, but st some point this team will need some wins...

[SCM33]

Lol, please.

 

Dont go liberal on me. I was the best man in a gay wedding (my brother) so spare me.

[Slasher9]

Lol, please.

 

Dont go liberal on me. I was the best man in a gay wedding (my brother) so spare me.

 

i'm sure your brother is proud that you use that term.

also, what is "liberal" about not using disparaging/derogatory terms??

[SCM33]

i'm sure your brother is proud that you use that term.

also, what is "liberal" about not using disparaging/derogatory terms??

 

He is. Thank you for the concern. Hes been open about it for 18 years now, and I am prouder of him more and more each day.

[moonslav59]

Some fun research on outfield defense and jump https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/jump?year=2019&min=q

 

Interesting breakdown.

 

I'd have guessed JBJ was better on routes than it shows.

 

He's been first in reaction time for 3 years but minus on route all 3 years.

 

Hmmm....

[Slasher9]

He is. Thank you for the concern. Hes been open about it for 18 years now, and I am prouder of him more and more each day.

 

it's good to have close allies. i am happy for your brother that he has your support. good stuff.

[mvp 78]

All of you idiots from that other s***** board that who joined in April of 2016 really ruined this place. This place sucks now, and its because of you guys. f*** you *******.

 

Even before 2016 it wasn't ok to say some of the s*** you've been saying though. Are you trying to get banned?

[SCM33]

Even before 2016 it wasn't ok to say some of the s*** you've been saying though. Are you trying to get banned?

 

No, Im not. I will edit the post. Moonslav, I truly apologize. You don't deserve that.

 

Moonslav, seriously, can we try to get along here? We are all Sox fans.

[mvp 78]

No, Im not. I will edit the post. Moonslav, I truly apologize. You don't deserve that.

 

Seriously, can we try to get along here? We are all Sox fans.

 

With some Yankers and a rando Mariner for some godforsaken reason.

[Slasher9]

not for nothing. big strides taken today. i love it.

not even joking.

 

now about that cliff, clutch, and rising FB?

[mvp 78]

not for nothing. big strides taken today. i love it.

not even joking.

 

now about that cliff, clutch, and rising FB?

 

Fake

Real

Fake

 

Easy peasy.

[SCM33]

Fake

Real

Fake

 

Easy peasy.

 

Whats fake!?!?

 

I am actually being sincere. Dont be a troll, I was being serious!

[mvp 78]

Whats fake!?!?

 

I am actually being sincere. Dont be a troll, I was being serious!

 

cliff - Fake - DD and ownership can keep any player they want

clutch - Real - see David Ortiz

rising FB - Fake - defies the laws of physics at the speed/spin rate the game is played now

[SCM33]

Oh okkkkkkkkk.

 

Well then, thats all true.

[notin]

cliff - Fake - DD and ownership can keep any player they want

clutch - Real - see David Ortiz

rising FB - Fake - defies the laws of physics at the speed/spin rate the game is played now

 

 

Reset?

[mvp 78]

Reset?

 

Only if they want to. If they think they can win, they're gonna keep going for it.

[notin]

Only if they want to. If they think they can win, they're gonna keep going for it.

 

 

Yeah I think the Sale and Bogaerts extensions killed any plans to reset. They’d have to make some near-impossible moves to do it now. Like trading Price...

[moonslav59]

Yeah I think the Sale and Bogaerts extensions killed any plans to reset. They’d have to make some near-impossible moves to do it now. Like trading Price...

 

They could let Porcello, Moreland, Pearce & Nunez walk and trade JBJ. They'd have a little money to fill the gaps, but we'd have to hope Chavis, Dalbec or Ockimey come through. We'd have to hope Holt (assuming he returns) + Chatham can hold down 2B. We'd have to sign a very cheap all glove CF'er. We'd have to hope Eovaldi stays healthy and sign a cheap 5h slot SP'er or hope Johnson, Wright or Shawaryn come through.

 

It's not as impossible as it seems.

 

If not, after Betts walks, we can do it after 2020.

[oldtimer]

They could let Porcello, Moreland, Pearce & Nunez walk and trade JBJ. They'd have a little money to fill the gaps, but we'd have to hope Chavis, Dalbec or Ockimey come through. We'd have to hope Holt (assuming he returns) + Chatham can hold down 2B. We'd have to sign a very cheap all glove CF'er. We'd have to hope Eovaldi stays healthy and sign a cheap 5h slot SP'er or hope Johnson, Wright or Shawaryn come through.

 

It's not as impossible as it seems.

 

If not, after Betts walks, we can do it after 2020.

 

It is not easy. I am hoping for giving our best talent some PT in late August or sept to see if anyone fits. We do need low cost talent filling in at some positions. We need to decide on a core of veteran players to keep. Some of the decisions have been made with big contracts out there. I see Bogie, Devers, Betts, Beni and Vaz in that list. Our starters of Sale, Price and Evoldi. The BP needs to be blown up with few remaining. Your more into the available resources that I am, but it seems like a tall order.

[moonslav59]

It is not easy. I am hoping for giving our best talent some PT in late August or sept to see if anyone fits. We do need low cost talent filling in at some positions. We need to decide on a core of veteran players to keep. Some of the decisions have been made with big contracts out there. I see Bogie, Devers, Betts, Beni and Vaz in that list. Our starters of Sale, Price and Evoldi. The BP needs to be blown up with few remaining. Your more into the available resources that I am, but it seems like a tall order.

 

I would not be happy going into 2020 with just these players trying to win a right-side IF position:

 

1B: Chavis, Dalbec, Ockimey (JD?)

2B: Chavis, Chatham, Holt (assuming we re-sign him cheaply)

 

If we can do this, we may have some money to spend on replacing Porcello and adding a solid pen arm, but we'd have to trade JBJ to have enough money to not be total cheapies.

 

 

[Bellhorn04]

633

[moonslav59]

633

 

It's pretty hard to keep up an almost steady daily rise in your OPS, but JBJ is doing a good job trying to do just that.

 

If he gets just 1 hit, he almost alwayd gets a BB or HBP with it, of the hit is a 2B or HR.

 

Big run scored today. Big hit in 9th-- too bad no rbi with Marco on 2B.

[kenmeister]

It's pretty hard to keep up an almost steady daily rise in your OPS, but JBJ is doing a good job trying to do just that.

 

If he gets just 1 hit, he almost alwayd gets a BB or HBP with it, of the hit is a 2B or HR.

 

Big run scored today. Big hit in 9th-- too bad no rbi with Marco on 2B.

 

Yup looks like he's finally going to cross the .200 barrier.

[jacksonianmarch]

JBJ is doing what he does. .377 OPS (auto-out) in April. May and June, .786 OPS. Very, very streaky hitter.

[oldtimer]

I would not be happy going into 2020 with just these players trying to win a right-side IF position:

 

1B: Chavis, Dalbec, Ockimey (JD?)

2B: Chavis, Chatham, Holt (assuming we re-sign him cheaply)

 

If we can do this, we may have some money to spend on replacing Porcello and adding a solid pen arm, but we'd have to trade JBJ to have enough money to not be total cheapies.

 

 

 

For 2020, I don't want the Sox to repeat the mistakes of this year. Whether we have the money and trade resources is another story.

 

1. Our first mistake was not to go out and get a talented and hopefully younger second baseman when we had to know Pedroia was iffy at best. Giving Pedroia the 8 year contract was a mistake in the first place. We can keep a Holt or Lin for utility but we need a second baseman. I don't think Chavis is a long term 2nd base prospect. Is Chatham? Only way to find out is to bring him up and try him later this year if the Sox are out of it. Chatham could fill in at SS if the need arose.

 

2. I don't think of it as a mistake to have kept JBJ. There was talk of how he would extend his end of year hitting prowess and that his mechanics had been modified for the better. What we got is the same streaky hitter, only this time the subpar streak lasted and lasted. For 2020 we should shed his contract and fill in from the available candidate. Will Duran grow during the minor league experience. He is fast and has a decent if not powerful bat. Perhaps he can at least become our utility outfielder.

 

3. We took on Pearce to back up Moreland at 1st and both of them have proven fragile. Moreland is having a very decent year but can probably only be expected to play in 90 games at this point in his career. Pearce was taken on due to his excellent performance in the WS. We need to rethink 1st base for 2020. Will it be Chavis and Moreland? Can Chavis cut down on his strikeouts? He has power but it doesn't help if you can't make contact. I don't see Ockimey or Dalbec as an improvement there as both are power hitters but have similar characteristics as Chavis. Conceivably, Dalbec could backup 3rd base and thats a plus.

 

4. As far as starting pitching is concerned, I don't know why we waited for the season to schedule Eovaldi for an operation to remove loose bodies from his throwing elbow. I find it hard to believe they developed during the off season. Has it been done in November, he probably would have been back to his regular turn in early May. Now we may be looking at July to see him return after sustaining a bicep strain. We have Price, Sale and Eovaldi and I for one would likke to resign Porcello but if possible for a shorter term contract. He is a very solid 3rd or 4th starter who eats innings and is durable. We have let guys like him walk only to see them have long careers. The guy I would seriously let walk is E-Rod. With all his experience, he still wants to nibble and performs like a 5th starter. Maybe we have a pitcher in the minors who could fill that position in 2020. Brings to mind the old question mark. Why do the Rays seem to develop young pitchers while we can't? We don't get high draft choices? Hire the Rays pitching development coach.

 

5. The catching position was controversial at the beginning of 2019. Vaz has proven his merit as a starting ML catcher while Leon is a weak hitting backup. This is not a serious problem for the team so should be a lower priority for change than our larger needs.

 

6. At DH we did the right thing in keeping JDM. He is one of the very best DH's and can sub into the outfield from time to time. His physical problems will continue as he ages. His player coach value has also be special. Will he opt out on us and how far do we go to keep him? i admittedly haven't done to math to see how our contract $s stack up but would like him back if at all possible.

 

7. I saved our BP for last. We had financial considerations get in the way of resigning our closer. That became inevitable due to Kimbrel's expectations and our available resources. It hasn't worked well. Barnes has good stuff but seems to lack the composure to come in during tight games. Brasier had a great 2019 but hasn't been as effective this year. Hembree is still fairly effective but isn't closer material. The rest are so so. For 2020 we need to address the closer and at least one more bridge arm beyond what we currently have. Is Workman able to be the bridge? Don't think so but he is at least a guy we should keep. Otherwise, I am in favor of blowing the BP up and looking for talent. I am not for making Eovaldi our closer.

 

So, I advocate making moves to improve the tea while staying under the 2nd tiers of the competitive balance tax and at the same time avoiding taking on additional high dollar, long term contracts for guys 30 and over.

[Bellhorn04]

4. As far as starting pitching is concerned, I don't know why we waited for the season to schedule Eovaldi for an operation to remove loose bodies from his throwing elbow. I find it hard to believe they developed during the off season. Has it been done in November, he probably would have been back to his regular turn in early May.

 

Eovaldi did make 4 starts this season before the issue arose. There's no real reason not to think this developed after the start of the season.