The annual Jackie Bradley Jr thread (2019 Edition)

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Due to Duran's progress in Double AA, due to the fact that the Red Sox will need to find another starting pitcher, as well as upgrades to the bullpen, I would highly doubt Bradley is on the team next year. It makes more sense to trade Bradley, perhaps for a relief arm, free up 10 million, and invest that money in a free agent starter, perhaps. P.Wheeler. Ultimately, Duran at league minimum is a better use of resources than Bradley at 10 million.

[notin]

Due to Duran's progress in Double AA, due to the fact that the Red Sox will need to find another starting pitcher, as well as upgrades to the bullpen, I would highly doubt Bradley is on the team next year. It makes more sense to trade Bradley, perhaps for a relief arm, free up 10 million, and invest that money in a free agent starter, perhaps. P.Wheeler. Ultimately, Duran at league minimum is a better use of resources than Bradley at 10 million.

 

I’m not so sure Duran and his .650 OPS is the answer in CF just yet...

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Duran is a singles hitter and so OPS isn't going to be kind to him. But when you consider the guy has blazing speed, he can turn singles into doubles by stealing a base here and there.

 

I'm not looking for another Willie Mays; I'm looking for a ninth hitter who can give you batting average similar to Bradley's production. He won't hit the 15 HRs that Bradley will hit but he also won't cost you 10 million.

 

Even with a guy like Duran in the lineup next year, the REd Sox offense will be one of the best in the league. The bigger problem (challenge) is fixing the pitching staff and getting rid of Bradley's contract helps you do that.

Edited August 3, 2019 by Fan_since_Boggs

[oldtimer]

Duran is a singles hitter and so OPS isn't going to be kind to him. But when you consider the guy has blazing speed, he can turn singles into doubles by stealing a base here and there.

 

I'm not looking for another Willie Mays; I'm looking for a ninth hitter who can give you batting average similar to Bradley's production. He won't hit the 15 HRs that Bradley will hit but he also won't cost you 10 million.

 

Even with a guy like Duran in the lineup next year, the REd Sox offense will be one of the best in the league. The bigger problem (challenge) is fixing the pitching staff and getting rid of Bradley's contract helps you do that.

 

Good creative thought. Bradley will have to go primarily due to his salary.

[notin]

Duran is a singles hitter and so OPS isn't going to be kind to him. But when you consider the guy has blazing speed, he can turn singles into doubles by stealing a base here and there.

 

I'm not looking for another Willie Mays; I'm looking for a ninth hitter who can give you batting average similar to Bradley's production. He won't hit the 15 HRs that Bradley will hit but he also won't cost you 10 million.

 

Even with a guy like Duran in the lineup next year, the REd Sox offense will be one of the best in the league. The bigger problem (challenge) is fixing the pitching staff and getting rid of Bradley's contract helps you do that.

 

Duran crushed in A ball because of a .471 BABIP. In AA, he has a .350 BABIP. Being fast certainly helps BABIP, but even .350 might not be sustainable. He may not hit, but he will be cheap.

 

If there is a weakness in his game to worry about, it’s his propensity to strikeout, where BABIP 19% in A ball and 24% in AA. What will it be in MLB?

 

If the Sox do replace Bradley, they might look at cheaper free agents first..,

Edited August 3, 2019 by notin

[devildavid]

Disagree.

 

In 99 careen games, he’s been worth about 1 fWAR. This does make him a borderline starter. Now he did play a significant chunk of those games after injuring his shoulder on a dive, which does appear to have an effect on his hitting.

 

He won’t be a star and is likely a step down from Bradley, but financed might dictate a move like this...

 

So why is he exiled to the minor leagues? Do the Sox get better value from him there?

[Bellhorn04]

So why is he exiled to the minor leagues? Do the Sox get better value from him there?

 

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[devildavid]

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So basically because the Sox are overpaying him he will probably never get a chance to play for them. Well, he would have, if he was actually able to perform st a level commensurate with his salary.

[notin]

So why is he exiled to the minor leagues? Do the Sox get better value from him there?

 

$$$$$

[moonslav59]

As for Bradley, he is a legitimate non-tender candidate. He probably north of $10mill in arbitration, which is a bit pricey for a bottom of the order glove/part time bat. Now the Sox might still re-sign him at a reduced price..

 

I think we pay his arb cost and trade him.

[notin]

I think we pay his arb cost and trade him.

 

The Sox tried that last year and couldn’t get a return they liked. Next season Bradley will make more money if tendered and have less control. So why would they get a return they like them?

 

Best move is non-tender him and maybe try to sign him back for less. Other teams might be interested, but no one is going after hi for $10-11mill...

[moonslav59]

The Sox tried that last year and couldn’t get a return they liked. Next season Bradley will make more money if tendered and have less control. So why would they get a return they like them?

 

Best move is non-tender him and maybe try to sign him back for less. Other teams might be interested, but no one is going after hi for $10-11mill...

 

Any return is better than non tendering him.

[notin]

Any return is better than non tendering him.

 

Not necessarily. If you non-tender him, you can still re-sign him.

[moonslav59]

Not necessarily. If you non-tender him, you can still re-sign him.

 

We can trade him and sign an all glove CF'er for cheaper.

[Bellhorn04]

We can trade him and sign an all glove CF'er for cheaper.

 

But if we sign him for an arb price of $10-11 million, will we be able to trade him, or trade him without eating some of the money?

[moonslav59]

But if we sign him for an arb price of $10-11 million, will we be able to trade him, or trade him without eating some of the money?

 

Yes. GMs wanted him at $9M.

[jacksonianmarch]

Yes. GMs wanted him at $9M.

 

last year

[moonslav59]

last year

 

Yes, and he's hitting about the same as 2018.

 

I guess if GMs think his defense has slipped, they may not call this winter, but it seems like every winter GMs ask about him.

[illinoisredsox]

Yes, and he's hitting about the same as 2018.

 

I guess if GMs think his defense has slipped, they may not call this winter, but it seems like every winter GMs ask about him.

 

Moon, they won’t call unless he tendered and is on contract. If he’s awarded a lower figure than this year, maybe they can trade him. If he’s awarded a higher figure, there’s no way he’ll be traded without the Sox picking up part of the contract, which sort of defeats the purpose.

 

If he’s non-tendered, he’s a free agent.

[notin]

We can trade him and sign an all glove CF'er for cheaper.

 

Actually you don’t know if you can trade him...

[moonslav59]

Moon, they won’t call unless he tendered and is on contract. If he’s awarded a lower figure than this year, maybe they can trade him. If he’s awarded a higher figure, there’s no way he’ll be traded without the Sox picking up part of the contract, which sort of defeats the purpose.

 

If he’s non-tendered, he’s a free agent.

 

I think GMs will want him at $10M, and we won't have to pay a cent.

 

I could be wrong, but I think many GMs have wanted JBJ for years. A one year $10M commitment is desirable.

 

I think it is worth the risk.

 

(I see the advantage of non tendering, but if we are looking to do that, we might as well DFA him now.

[moonslav59]

Actually you don’t know if you can trade him...

 

No, I don't, but this is an opinion site.

[notin]

No, I don't, but this is an opinion site.

 

I think Dombrowski is going to have enough of a time trying to trade Betts. Much easier to non-tender Bradley. Otherwise he’s going to have to find a way to add 2 starting pitchers and a 2b for something like $12-15mill. That’s not easy if you want to be competitive. And if the Sox aren’t competitive next year, Dombrowski will hopefully be fired by then...

[moonslav59]

I think Dombrowski is going to have enough of a time trying to trade Betts. Much easier to non-tender Bradley. Otherwise he’s going to have to find a way to add 2 starting pitchers and a 2b for something like $12-15mill. That’s not easy if you want to be competitive. And if the Sox aren’t competitive next year, Dombrowski will hopefully be fired by then...

 

There's enough time to work on trading JBJ.

 

I doubt we trade Betts.

[oldtimer]

There's enough time to work on trading JBJ.

 

I doubt we trade Betts.

 

All depends on his willingness to make a deal that is equivalent to his worth. Maybe he gets traded at the 2020 deadline if we are not in it then.

[notin]

All depends on his willingness to make a deal that is equivalent to his worth. Maybe he gets traded at the 2020 deadline if we are not in it then.

 

If Mookie is still in Boston (and I suspect he will be), there may not be budget room to do anything about the pitching staff. So, good chance they deal him in July...

[jung]

JBJ's value to this team is built around the once given that the rotation was the strength of the team. If that is no longer true or if the Sox abandon having 30+ year old Starters (weren't we supposed to abandon that years ago) in transition tying up so much salary then JBJ's value to this team is substantially reduced.

[kenmeister]

If Mookie is still in Boston (and I suspect he will be), there may not be budget room to do anything about the pitching staff. So, good chance they deal him in July...

 

If I can get a bonafide young ace starter, I trade Mookie in a heartbeat.

[moonslav59]

All depends on his willingness to make a deal that is equivalent to his worth. Maybe he gets traded at the 2020 deadline if we are not in it then.

 

Maybe, but the amount of top stars we have traded before they become FAs is very low under Henry's watch. (CC & Beckett and the Lester, Lackey, Peavy sell off is about it.)

 

I can see us trading Betts at the 2020 deadline, and we may even re-sign him the next winter, but I think the odds are against it, unless we are in rebuild mode next year.

[OH FOY]

Wonder what JBJ and Boras want on a extension? He thinks he's getting big bucks he's crazy, as a FA. Wonder if you offer 3 for 27 would he go for it.