A Realistic View at 2019: Part I

[Slasher9]

When Eovaldi comes back I'd think long & hard about making him the closer.

 

it may also be time to have our starters pitch an inning on their "bullpen" days......

[dgalehouse]

I agree with you about Barnes. He has proven to be a very valuable set up guy. The but is that good closers imo are special animals. We had one of the best if not the best playing for us in Kimbrel. In my mind, his value is now obvious. I think that bullpens in general can be built in many different ways but when it comes to the back end not so much. They aren't going to be successful every game but you have to have someone out there that you can count on when the game is on the line.

I have said it a thousand times. Closing ain't easy. People can talk all they want about " leverage situations " and the good hitters coming up in the seventh inning , but getting the last three outs is still tough . Barnes blew the save last night , but I was not the least bit surprised to see the Sox come back against Shawn Kelly , who looked like he would rather be in a Turkish prison than trying to close that game in Fenway . Closing ain't easy .

[notin]

I have said it a thousand times. Closing ain't easy. People can talk all they want about " leverage situations " and the good hitters coming up in the seventh inning , but getting the last three outs is still tough . Barnes blew the save last night , but I was not the least bit surprised to see the Sox come back against Shawn Kelly , who looked like he would rather be in a Turkish prison than trying to close that game in Fenway . Closing ain't easy .

 

 

The overwhelming majority of the Sox blown saves have come before the ninth inning. How many 9th inning saves have they blown this year?

 

I think just three. Last night for Barnes and two by Brasier (against Cleveland and Chicago).

 

Are there any others?

[moonslav59]

The overwhelming majority of the Sox blown saves have come before the ninth inning. How many 9th inning saves have they blown this year?

 

I think just three. Last night for Barnes and two by Brasier (against Cleveland and Chicago).

 

Are there any others?

 

Yes- just 3 in the 9th (see in red).

 

Here's a closer look at our pen.

 

OPS Against

Pen .718

SP'rs .738

 

ERA

Pen 4.12

SP'ers 4.56

 

W-L

Pen 16-8

SP'ers 18-25

 

So, 8 losses and 10 blown saves. 14 saves & 35 Holds. Inherited runners scoring 21/77 (27%). Take away Johnson's 2/3, Poyner's 1/1 and Brasier's 3/5 and the rest have allowed just 15 of 68 runners to score (22%).

 

Let's look at ONLY the 8 losses involving the pen.

 

Game 10 v AZ: Price leaves after 6 IP tied 4-4. The pen lets up 1 run (in the 9th) by Brewer (L). The pen actually did better than Price but got the loss. Not a blown save but lost in the 9th.

 

Game 19 v NYY:Eovaldi leaves after 6 ahead 3-1. Workman (L) and Brasier let up 4 runs in the 7th, and we lose 5-3. Lost in 7th inning.

 

Game 23 vs DET: Sale leaves after 5 tied 2-2. Hembree lets in a run in the 6th, we tie it again, and Brewer (L) lets up 3 runs in the 7th to get the loss.

 

Game 32 v CWS: Price leaves the game after 6 tied 3-3. We take the lead in the 7th, but Brasier (L) blows the save in the 9th by letting up 3 runs.

 

Game 43 v COL. Sale leaves after 7 leading 3-2. Workman blows the save in the 8th by letting up 2 runs. We then tie the game, but Brasier (L) loses it in the 11th by letting up a run. Not a blown save in 9th.

 

Game 51 v HOU: Priceleaves in the first inning. Lakins and Velazquez let up 3 runs, but we enter the bottom of the 9th tied 3-3. Barnes (L) lets up a run for the loss. Not a blown save but a 9th inning loss by the pen.

 

Game 55 v CLE (The game from hell.): Price pitches 6 shut out innings and we go 9th up 5-2. Brasier (BS) and Lakins(L) let up 5 runs in the loss.

 

Game 66 vs TEX: Price leaves after 7 with a 3-1 lead. Barnes (BS) gives up 2 in the 9th and Brasier (L) loses it in the 11th.

 

Edited June 11, 2019 by moonslav59

[notin]

I believe you mean Sale, not Price, and 2-1, not 3-1, in game 66...

[oldtimer]

It's hard to judge suggested deals or to make them. There's too many moving parts, of which the two most important parts are probably:

 

1) How much does the opposing GM value our player/prospects offered?

 

2) How much does DD value the players offered and the player he's trying to get?

 

These judgments may be wildly different from our impressions and perspectives, and there's more to it that just these two factors. There's money and budget/tax concerns. There's future consideration, such as years of team control. There's health and age-based projections.

 

Wil Smith would be a great get, but I'm not sure we have the pieces SF would want, and even if we do, is DD prepared to further empty the farm to get him?

 

 

 

I would add to those questions with one that asks: How likely is it that this prospect can fill in next season or beyond in a position where we are likely to be weak otherwise? An example would be Duran as a center fielder. Maybe not a good example and maybe Dalbec taking over at 1st base instead of Pearce and Moreland. I don't want guys who can come in and gived the Sox good performance for a low cost. We can use the money paying for stars and/or pitching.

[moonslav59]

Let's look at the 16 wins our pen has and see how many were blown saves turned into wins due to the Sox scoring after the blown save:

 

Game 6 v OAK: Eovaldi leaves after 5 down 3-0. The pen locks 'em down for 4 IP (0 ERs). We win 6-3. The pen did much better than the SP'er.

 

Game 11 v AZ: Velazquez starts and goes just 3 IP (o ERs). The pen locks 'em down for 6 IP (0 ERs). We win 1-0 and the pen did better than the SP'er.

 

Game 13 v TOR: Eovaldi lets up 5 ERs in 5 IP losing 5-3. The pen lets up 1 ER in 4 IP, and win 7-6. The pen does much better than the SP'er.

 

Game 20 v TBR: ERod lets up 4 runs in 5.1 IP and the pen locks 'em down for 3.2 IP (0ERS). Pen does better.

 

Game 21 v TBR: Porcello leaves after 5.2 allowing 2 runs and a 5-2lead. The pen lets the Rays tie the game and we end up winning 6-5. SP'er does much better.

 

Game 22 v TBR: Price goes 5 IP (2 ERs) and leaves down 2-1. The pen allows 1 ER (BS by Barnes in the 8th) in 6 IP and we win in the 11th. Pen does better despite blowing the save for Workman's win.

 

Game 29 v OAK: ERod goes 4.2 IP allowing 4 ERs and the pen locks 'em down for 4.1 IP (0 ERs). Pen does much better.

 

Game 31 v OAK (Pen game): Velazquez lets up 1 run in 2 IP. The pen holds them to 0 ER for 6 IP before Thornburg lets up 2 in the 9th in a 7-3 win. Pen does better.

 

Game 35 v CWS: Porcello leaves after 6 tied 2-2. The pen locks'em down as we win 9-2. Pen did better.

 

Game 37 v BAL (pen game): Velazquez goes 3 IP (2 ER), but the pen goes 6 IP (3 ER) in an 8-5 win. Pen = SP.

 

Game 38 v BAL: Sale leaves after 8 IP tied 1-1. The pen locks 'em down for 4 IP and we win 2-1 in 12. Pen does slightly better (the 22 K/0 BB game).

 

Game 43 v COL: ERod allows 5 ER in 6+ IP and leaves with a lead. Barnes BS by allowing ERod's runner to score, but the pen goes 4 IP with 0 ERs as we win in 10. Pen better than SP.

 

Game 46 v HOU: Sale leaves after 5.1 (3 ERs) tied 3-3. The pen lock 'em down for 3 IP (o ERs) and we win 4-3.

 

Game 49 v TOR: Porcello leaves ahead 2-1 after 6 IP. Our pen blows a save twice but we win in 13 six to five. Pen does worse by allowing 4 ERs in 7 IP, but it was not horrible numbers.

 

Game 62 v KCR: Weber leaves after just 1.1 IP (2 ERs) and the pen does better by allowing 3 runs in 7.2 IP) as we win 7-5.

 

 

[moonslav59]

I believe you mean Sale, not Price, and 2-1, not 3-1, in game 66...

 

I got distracted, sorry.

[moonslav59]

I would add to those questions with one that asks: How likely is it that this prospect can fill in next season or beyond in a position where we are likely to be weak otherwise? An example would be Duran as a center fielder. Maybe not a good example and maybe Dalbec taking over at 1st base instead of Pearce and Moreland. I don't want guys who can come in and gived the Sox good performance for a low cost. We can use the money paying for stars and/or pitching.

 

I think our only hopes are...

 

Chavis (if you count him) at 1B or 2B.

 

Lin, Marco H, Brian Johnson and Wright are no longer a prospects, but 1-2 may help.

 

Dalbec at 3B/1B, but I'm not sure we can count on him.

 

Chatham at 2B is a stretch.

 

DHernandez and Lakins are not showing progress.

 

Shawaryn is a guess.

 

Feltman is sucking it up.

 

Maybe Gorkys Hernandez, Ockimey, Houck, Duran or Poyner?

[jacksonianmarch]

The prospects you do have in house have talent, but none are high likelihoods to hit. Add in the contracts on the books and the room you will have is limited. Consider this

 

Eovaldi- $17 mil AAV

Price- $31 mil AAV

Sale- $29 mil AAV

Bogaerts- $20 mil

Pedroia- $14 mil

Vaz- $4 mil

JDM- $22 mil

 

That's $137 mil

 

Mookie is due for a huge arb raise in his final year. Even if his season in 2019 is down, arb counts the last 2 and he is gonna get close to $28-$30 mil there.

 

Arb predictions

Mookie- $28 mil

Beni- $5 mil

Barnes- $4 mil

Bradley- $10 mil

Hembree- $3 mil

ERod- $8 mil

Workman- $5 mil (if he continues pitching well, he will be an arb 3 hence the higher number)

 

That's another $63 mil. Add in the $15 mil in medicals and you are at $215 mil right there. I am assuming the sox move on from Wright and Leon and fill every other spot with a pre arb player and Pedroia is on the DL. That adds 13 league minimum salaries ($500K about) which gets you to $222 mil. $208 mil is the threshold of note here. That leaves the sox with $26 mil to improve the team. I am assuming Moreland and Pearce move on and are replaced by Chavis. I am also assuming Porcello leaves and is replaced by Johnson. You'll have the space for one good addition. Now, if you create a hole by releasing or dealing JBJ, different story

[Bellhorn04]

Sale- $29 mil AAV

 

A relatively small point, but Sale's AAV is actually 25.6 million, because of deferred money. It appears that one of the new provisions in the current CBA was a change in calculation of AAV when there is deferred money.

[moonslav59]

The prospects you do have in house have talent, but none are high likelihoods to hit. Add in the contracts on the books and the room you will have is limited. Consider this

 

Eovaldi- $17 mil AAV

Price- $31 mil AAV

Sale- $29 mil AAV

Bogaerts- $20 mil

Pedroia- $14 mil

Vaz- $4 mil

JDM- $22 mil

 

That's $137 mil

 

Mookie is due for a huge arb raise in his final year. Even if his season in 2019 is down, arb counts the last 2 and he is gonna get close to $28-$30 mil there.

 

Arb predictions

Mookie- $28 mil

Beni- $5 mil

Barnes- $4 mil

Bradley- $10 mil

Hembree- $3 mil

ERod- $8 mil

Workman- $5 mil (if he continues pitching well, he will be an arb 3 hence the higher number)

 

That's another $63 mil. Add in the $15 mil in medicals and you are at $215 mil right there. I am assuming the sox move on from Wright and Leon and fill every other spot with a pre arb player and Pedroia is on the DL. That adds 13 league minimum salaries ($500K about) which gets you to $222 mil. $208 mil is the threshold of note here. That leaves the sox with $26 mil to improve the team. I am assuming Moreland and Pearce move on and are replaced by Chavis. I am also assuming Porcello leaves and is replaced by Johnson. You'll have the space for one good addition. Now, if you create a hole by releasing or dealing JBJ, different story

 

The other 15 players on the 40 man roster count, too, but that cost is minimal. It probably makes up for the Sale misquote.

[kenmeister]

I agree, but not for 2020 and beyond.

 

I'm also not sure about our playoff chances without addressing the 5th starter slot, if Eovladi is moved to closer.

 

Don't laugh, but Steven Wright is close to returning and could take the 5th starter slot while Eovaldi closes. If we make the playoffs we don't need a 5th starter so Eovaldi can remain closing.

[kenmeister]

it may also be time to have our starters pitch an inning on their "bullpen" days......

 

Interesting idea.

[iortiz]

The prospects you do have in house have talent, but none are high likelihoods to hit. Add in the contracts on the books and the room you will have is limited. Consider this

 

Eovaldi- $17 mil AAV

Price- $31 mil AAV

Sale- $29 mil AAV

Bogaerts- $20 mil

Pedroia- $14 mil

Vaz- $4 mil

JDM- $22 mil

 

That's $137 mil

 

Mookie is due for a huge arb raise in his final year. Even if his season in 2019 is down, arb counts the last 2 and he is gonna get close to $28-$30 mil there.

 

Arb predictions

Mookie- $28 mil

Beni- $5 mil

Barnes- $4 mil

Bradley- $10 mil

Hembree- $3 mil

ERod- $8 mil

Workman- $5 mil (if he continues pitching well, he will be an arb 3 hence the higher number)

 

That's another $63 mil. Add in the $15 mil in medicals and you are at $215 mil right there. I am assuming the sox move on from Wright and Leon and fill every other spot with a pre arb player and Pedroia is on the DL. That adds 13 league minimum salaries ($500K about) which gets you to $222 mil. $208 mil is the threshold of note here. That leaves the sox with $26 mil to improve the team. I am assuming Moreland and Pearce move on and are replaced by Chavis. I am also assuming Porcello leaves and is replaced by Johnson. You'll have the space for one good addition. Now, if you create a hole by releasing or dealing JBJ, different story

 

Mookie is a FA next season, isn't he?

[Bellhorn04]

Mookie is a FA next season, isn't he?

 

No, final arb year.

[vegasbob]

I think our only hopes are...

 

Chavis (if you count him) at 1B or 2B.

 

Lin, Marco H, Brian Johnson and Wright are no longer a prospects, but 1-2 may help.

 

Dalbec at 3B/1B, but I'm not sure we can count on him.

 

Chatham at 2B is a stretch.

 

DHernandez and Lakins are not showing progress.

 

Shawaryn is a guess.

 

Feltman is sucking it up.

 

Maybe Gorkys Hernandez, Ockimey, Houck, Duran or Poyner?

 

Ahh, 16 names that will live in infamy as the Sox future talent pool, shallow end only for kiddies. If 3 of those 16 are on the Sox active roster, contributing WAR after 2022 it will be a victory.

[iortiz]

The fact that we have blown 10 games is the main reason we are in this position. Give me 5-6 games of those 10, and we would be fighting for the division and leading the WC spots.

 

It's funny, the BP has been above average (aside the 9th inning), the offense while inconsistent, has scored a lot of runs and the rotation has been stable after April.

 

Said that, the key is to find out a reliable closer in the current staff or via trade if we want to compete the rest of the season. We still have a chance and time to right the ship. We have a lot of talent in this team.

 

The only one who doesn't have a shot to close this season is Heath Hembree who btw has been very solid and reliable in late innings. Who knows, maybe he could turn out into 2013 Koji 2.0. Remember how Koji took the closer job in 2013? Yes, by committee!

 

I still have faith in this team and the FO. We are still the goddamn champions with practically the same roster. Cora and the FO will push the right buttons.

[iortiz]

No, final arb year.

 

oh, so he will be in the team until 2020?

[Bellhorn04]

oh, so he will be in the team until 2020?

 

Yes.

[moonslav59]

Top Sox OPS since May 20th (Cherry-picked date when JBJ got hot):

 

1.010 JBJ

.991 Bogey

.973 Pearce (on IL)

.949 JD M (Missed time recently)

 

.874 Devers

.827 Holt

 

.746 Moreland (on IL)

.745 Betts

.741 Beni

.700 Nunez

.679 Leon

 

.591 Chavis

.571 Vaz

 

I've mentioned this on other threads, but I think it is past time we start playing the best players every game, without rest, until our team is healthy. We've already rested many players, so playing them now should not wear them out. We have a lot of days off coming up and then 4 days for the AS break, so let's play the best players as much as possible. We need W's NOW!

 

Here are the players Cora has rested over the past few games (listed in reverse order by date):

 

Moreland & Pearce on IL

JBJ (lost 9-5)

Chavis (lost 4-3)

 

Moreland & Pearce on IL/ JD injured but not on IL

Bogey, Beni, Devers, Nunez/Holt (6-1 loss to TBR)

Nunez (Betts at DH) win 5-1 (2nd game of DBLHDR)

Beni (lost 9-3 to TBR in 1st game)

 

Pearce on IL & JD injured

None (lost 5-1)

 

Just Moreland/Pearce on IL

None (win 7-5)

None (win 8-0)

None (win 8-3) We rested nobody for these 3 games vs KCR, then rested a lot vs the Rays!

JBJ (win 8-5 v NYY)

None (lost 5-3)

 

Just Moreland on IL

None (lost 4-1 to NYY)

 

 

 

 

[moonslav59]

We've played 68 games. Here are how many games players have not started due to injury and "resting."

 

(BTW, I'm fine with the resting philosophy, but not when we need wins.)

 

Games not starter & Games started (vs RHP/LHP)

2-66 Betts 45/21

3-65 Bogey 44/21

4-64 Devers 47/17

7-59 Beni 45/14

12-56 JBJ 41/15 (was slumping badly and sat some)

12-56 JD 38/18 (was injured)

23-43 Chavis 31/12 (started season in minors)

22-46 Vaz 30/16

28-40 Moreland 36/4 (was on IL & platooned)

40-28 Nunez 9/19 (was on IL and a sub)

44-24 Holt 13/1 (was on IL & platooned/sub)

45-23 Pearce 10/13 (is on IL & platooned)

46-22 Leon 14/8 (was in minors to start season)

 

I remember the days players routinely played 159-162 games, unless they got hurt.

 

We have no players on pace for even 158 games. Only Betts is on pace forplaying more than 155 games. Only Betts, Bogey and Devers for over 149.

 

[dgalehouse]

The scene is Alex Cora's office , yesterday at 1:00 PM : Alex is at his desk , making out the lineup . Ferdy Nerdwell enters , without knocking. Ferdy : " Hi Alex ." Cora : " You again ? What do you want ?" Ferdy : " Alex , my brother Harold and I think today would be a good day to rest JBJ , what with Texas starting a mediocre right hander and all . I think Mr. Werner agrees . " Cora : " Okay . Sounds kind of dumb , but I'll try it . ". Ferdy : " You can put Brock in left and move Beni to center ." Cora : " What if Beni gets hurt or ejected or something?" Ferdy : " Well , you can't use Jackie on his day off . That would spoil the plan . You could move Mookie to center , move Brock to right and put the new kid , I forget his name , in left ." Cora : " Travis ? " Ferdy : " Yeah , that's it , Travis . Put him in left ." Cora : " Ferdy , we need a win tonight." Ferdy : " Alex , always remember , don't chase wins ." Cora : " s*** . Okay . Anything else ? " Ferdy : " Well , we would like to get a look at Poyner tonight ." Alex : " That's it ?" Ferdy : " Yup . Have a nice day , Alex ."

[Maxbialystock]

Top Sox OPS since May 20th (Cherry-picked date when JBJ got hot):

 

1.010 JBJ

.991 Bogey

.973 Pearce (on IL)

.949 JD M (Missed time recently)

 

.874 Devers

.827 Holt

 

.746 Moreland (on IL)

.745 Betts

.741 Beni

.700 Nunez

.679 Leon

 

.591 Chavis

.571 Vaz

 

I've mentioned this on other threads, but I think it is past time we start playing the best players every game, without rest, until our team is healthy. We've already rested many players, so playing them now should not wear them out. We have a lot of days off coming up and then 4 days for the AS break, so let's play the best players as much as possible. We need W's NOW!

 

Here are the players Cora has rested over the past few games (listed in reverse order by date):

 

Moreland & Pearce on IL

JBJ (lost 9-5)

Chavis (lost 4-3)

 

Moreland & Pearce on IL/ JD injured but not on IL

Bogey, Beni, Devers, Nunez/Holt (6-1 loss to TBR)

Nunez (Betts at DH) win 5-1 (2nd game of DBLHDR)

Beni (lost 9-3 to TBR in 1st game)

 

Pearce on IL & JD injured

None (lost 5-1)

 

Just Moreland/Pearce on IL

None (win 7-5)

None (win 8-0)

None (win 8-3) We rested nobody for these 3 games vs KCR, then rested a lot vs the Rays!

JBJ (win 8-5 v NYY)

None (lost 5-3)

 

Just Moreland on IL

None (lost 4-1 to NYY)

 

 

 

 

To date the Sox have played 68 games. Of those--in order of total bases they have accumulated--Bogie has played in 65, Devers 66, JDM 59, Betts 67, Beni 60, Moreland 47, Vazquez 55, Chavis 47, and JBJ 60.

 

The Sox won all 3 games Bogie missed. Clearly, Bogie needs to benched a lot more.

They lost both games (Houston, 4-3, and TB, 6-1) Devers missed. Clearly, Devers should play every game and maybe every inning. No rests for him.

They were 4-5 in 9 games JDM missed, which is not far from the Sox losing % to date. The real problem is the back is affecting JDM's hitting.

They won the only game Betts missed, so he should rest a lot more.

They lost 7 of 8 games Benintendi missed, so he should not be allowed to miss any more games this year or next for that matter. This guy is a gamer, unlike that piker Betts, who wasn't even missed.

They went 12-9 in the games Moreland missed, so Cora need be in no hurry to get him off the DL.

They went 3-5 without JBJ, so he needs to play every day for the rest of the year.

They went 11-2 in the games Vazquez did not play. Leon needs to play more.

[Slasher9]

The scene is Alex Cora's office , yesterday at 1:00 PM : Alex is at his desk , making out the lineup . Ferdy Nerdwell enters , without knocking. Ferdy : " Hi Alex ." Cora : " You again ? What do you want ?" Ferdy : " Alex , my brother Harold and I think today would be a good day to rest JBJ , what with Texas starting a mediocre right hander and all . I think Mr. Werner agrees . " Cora : " Okay . Sounds kind of dumb , but I'll try it . ". Ferdy : " You can put Brock in left and move Beni to center ." Cora : " What if Beni gets hurt or ejected or something?" Ferdy : " Well , you can't use Jackie on his day off . That would spoil the plan . You could move Mookie to center , move Brock to right and put the new kid , I forget his name , in left ." Cora : " Travis ? " Ferdy : " Yeah , that's it , Travis . Put him in left ." Cora : " Ferdy , we need a win tonight." Ferdy : " Alex , always remember , don't chase wins ." Cora : " s*** . Okay . Anything else ? " Ferdy : " Well , we would like to get a look at Poyner tonight ." Alex : " That's it ?" Ferdy : " Yup . Have a nice day , Alex ."

 

thats pretty good DGH.

[dgalehouse]

thats pretty good DGH.

 

Thanks . Have to get a good one every once in a while .

[mvp 78]

To date the Sox have played 68 games. Of those--in order of total bases they have accumulated--Bogie has played in 65, Devers 66, JDM 59, Betts 67, Beni 60, Moreland 47, Vazquez 55, Chavis 47, and JBJ 60.

 

The Sox won all 3 games Bogie missed. Clearly, Bogie needs to benched a lot more.

They lost both games (Houston, 4-3, and TB, 6-1) Devers missed. Clearly, Devers should play every game and maybe every inning. No rests for him.

They were 4-5 in 9 games JDM missed, which is not far from the Sox losing % to date. The real problem is the back is affecting JDM's hitting.

They won the only game Betts missed, so he should rest a lot more.

They lost 7 of 8 games Benintendi missed, so he should not be allowed to miss any more games this year or next for that matter. This guy is a gamer, unlike that piker Betts, who wasn't even missed.

They went 12-9 in the games Moreland missed, so Cora need be in no hurry to get him off the DL.

They went 3-5 without JBJ, so he needs to play every day for the rest of the year.

They went 11-2 in the games Vazquez did not play. Leon needs to play more.

 

This is the content I'm here for!

[Maxbialystock]

The scene is Alex Cora's office , yesterday at 1:00 PM : Alex is at his desk , making out the lineup . Ferdy Nerdwell enters , without knocking. Ferdy : " Hi Alex ." Cora : " You again ? What do you want ?" Ferdy : " Alex , my brother Harold and I think today would be a good day to rest JBJ , what with Texas starting a mediocre right hander and all . I think Mr. Werner agrees . " Cora : " Okay . Sounds kind of dumb , but I'll try it . ". Ferdy : " You can put Brock in left and move Beni to center ." Cora : " What if Beni gets hurt or ejected or something?" Ferdy : " Well , you can't use Jackie on his day off . That would spoil the plan . You could move Mookie to center , move Brock to right and put the new kid , I forget his name , in left ." Cora : " Travis ? " Ferdy : " Yeah , that's it , Travis . Put him in left ." Cora : " Ferdy , we need a win tonight." Ferdy : " Alex , always remember , don't chase wins ." Cora : " s*** . Okay . Anything else ? " Ferdy : " Well , we would like to get a look at Poyner tonight ." Alex : " That's it ?" Ferdy : " Yup . Have a nice day , Alex ."

 

Sadly, I agree with slasher9, this is pretty good stuff.

 

While I agree Cora could have managed the lineup better last night, I in no way think a better lineup--like Beni in LF, JBJ in CF, and Mookie in RF-- would have won that game. Our pitching stunk.

[moonslav59]

Sadly, I agree with slasher9, this is pretty good stuff.

 

While I agree Cora could have managed the lineup better last night, I in no way think a better lineup--like Beni in LF, JBJ in CF, and Mookie in RF-- would have won that game. Our pitching stunk.

 

Agreed, but maybe the defense would have saved quite a few runs, and possibly JBJ might have actually gotten a hit with men on base.

[Slasher9]

Sadly, I agree with slasher9,

this made my day.

well played.