A Sox dilemma in the making?

[S5Dewey]

The pen is the real question mark on this team and its not insignificant. Anytime Cora will have to reach into in earlier than the 7th inning it will be an issue.

 

As for the everyday player...I would not be looking to move any of them unless somebody wants to make me an offer I can't refuse. We are now into the 2018 championship season. There are so many injuries during the course of one championship season that all these players we are worried about will get playing time.

 

Plus, do we really want to rid ourselves of the enigma that is JBJ? Who would want to get rid of a guy that goes from flat terrible to wildly on fire at the plate, back and forth like JBJ does while being a simply superb CFer. Do you really want to be doomed to a season of Beni in CF and JD in LF. I don't!

 

In a way I'm kinda glad we got to see JDM in LF and Beni in CF. Sometimes you have to see what something looks like in order to see that you don't want it.

[moonslav59]

In a way I'm kinda glad we got to see JDM in LF and Beni in CF. Sometimes you have to see what something looks like in order to see that you don't want it.

 

I think we all knew before seeing it, that JMart in the OF would seriously weaken a great defensive trio.

 

I've seen enough to know that the data was correct. JMart is way worse than JBJ, Betts or Beni on defense.

[mvp 78]

DFA JDM. If it wasn't for that lousy turd, they'd be 16-0!

[cp176]

I don't think that anybody is super hyped up about moving JBJ. There is difference between wanting a guy who can really play to hit better and trading him. As the years go by though, trades are going to happen and someday he might be a part of one. As for our bullpen, I think that it could turn into one of our strengths as the season moves along.

[cp176]

DFA JDM. If it wasn't for that lousy turd, they'd be 16-0!

 

 

Now we are talking although I'd have to throw in that stiff Devers - he can't field his position.

[dgalehouse]

Let me repeat. " There is no dilemma." Smooth sailing ahead. Be happy.

[mvp 78]

Now we are talking although I'd have to throw in that stiff Devers - he can't field his position.

 

If we extrapolate that one play where he had a fielding error AND a throwing error, he'd have 300 errors in one season. Unacceptable!

[Maxbialystock]

Let me repeat. " There is no dilemma." Smooth sailing ahead. Be happy.

 

Pete and repeat went down to the lake. Pete fell in. Who was left?

 

The dilemma exists only in the mind of the writer of the OP.

[Slasher9]

Pete and repeat went down to the lake. Pete fell in. Who was left?

 

more importantly...if a seagull lives by the sea...what lives by the bay?

[moonslav59]

more importantly...if a seagull lives by the sea...what lives by the bay?

 

Wharf Rats

 

[Emp9]

[Dojji]

Lin could probably be a starting 2B for the bottom third of the league, but he's going to fade if he gets exposed. He's a good tap hitter with some speed, and a soid middle infielder, but not a star. I like him in the Alex Cora style role, supersub and pinch runner. He can def start if he needs to. But any of Holt, Nunez or Petroia will outperform him as a starter for an extended period of time.

 

That said he's been impressive as a fill in, and I'm def glad we have him. He's very useful a a depth option and like I said, I think he could start at an average-or-so level based on the very low bar 2B tend to have to clear offensively, especially with a little experience. Reminds me somewhat of Chris Getz or Willie Harris and they made half decent MLB careers for themselves. But if given time to really get exposed he's not going to be hitting for a .900 OPS, that's for absolutely certain.

 

Absolute ceiling for Lin is a Chone Figgins style career. I don't see him getting there. That said a serviceable tweener utility man/long term fill in guy can make an MLB career for himself, and would be a good outcome for Lin. He's definitely worth working with, but he won't beat Pedey or Bogey once those two are healthy.

[sk7326]

That would be tough - Chone Figgins at peak was a pretty rich man's Eduardo Nunez. A playable guy at a lot of positions (but not "good" at any of them) but you want his bat in the lineup.

[moonslav59]

Lin's competition is not Bogey, Pedey or Nunez (on offense anyways).

 

It's Lin vs Holt, and even Holt might be sent down when Pedey returns, since Swihart is out of options.

[dustcover]

Who's due back first, Bogaerts or Pedroia? If Bogaerts, will Nunez remain at 2nd or will Holt, with his recent offensive production, have forced his way into 2B discussion until Pedroia returns?

[Larry Cook]

Why not just keep pedroia on the dl for the rest of his contract. We got a good thing going and he has a history of being a turd in the punch bowl.

[cp176]

Why not just keep pedroia on the dl for the rest of his contract. We got a good thing going and he has a history of being a turd in the punch bowl.

 

lol - that's as bad as a fly in the beer.

[Bellhorn04]

Why not just keep pedroia on the dl for the rest of his contract. We got a good thing going and he has a history of being a turd in the punch bowl.

 

Horseshit. Pedroia has been on 2 World Series winners and has done nothing but play hard his whole career.

[Maxbialystock]

Horseshit. Pedroia has been on 2 World Series winners and has done nothing but play hard his whole career.

 

Highest WAR on the team in 2013. I'm a huge Pedey fan and know he will contribute if he can recover from the injury (injuries). Plus, as others have noted, he is at every game and knows what's going on with the 2018 version of the Sox. 18 months ago he had the 20th best WAR in MLB (and the 2d best on the Sox behind Betts. The only foreseeable dilemma is him not recovering.

Edited April 21, 2018 by Maxbialystock

[cp176]

It is going to be interesting to see what Pedroia has left and for how long he can stay on the field. If he is healthy, he doesn't even have to be the same younger version of himself that we remember in order to help us. He'll be 35 in August.

[Bellhorn04]

It is going to be interesting to see what Pedroia has left and for how long he can stay on the field. If he is healthy, he doesn't even have to be the same younger version of himself that we remember in order to help us. He'll be 35 in August.

 

Damn but the time flies.

[Maxbialystock]

Damn but the time flies.

 

Yup. I kind of lost track.

[notin]

Why not just keep pedroia on the dl for the rest of his contract. We got a good thing going and he has a history of being a turd in the punch bowl.

 

 

Does he really? I think too many people get caught up in some instances as if they know everything about them. We're all working with incomplete information.

 

If you don't like players with any sort of questionable history, Chris Sale has a fat more checkered past than Pedroia. Is fake working out for you?

[Dojji]

Who's due back first, Bogaerts or Pedroia? If Bogaerts, will Nunez remain at 2nd or will Holt, with his recent offensive production, have forced his way into 2B discussion until Pedroia returns?

 

We've had this conversation before. In fact if memory serves, we've had it every single year Brockstar was healthy.

 

He's got a pattern. He'll come out guns blazing, then wear down or get exposed as the season wears on. Compare his first half performance to his second half performance to see what I mean. IF you try to project the season based on what Holt does in April, he's always in the MVP race, then he cools way off.

 

I think there's little doubt that Brock Holt will NOT be the starting 2B for Boston by the end of August.

 

In fact given how these things usually work and the amount of cross movement between the Cubs and Red Sox I wouldn't rule out being in desperate need of a MI at the deadline, and the Red Sox going out and bringing in a mercenary like Ben Zobrist. But then I've wanted that guy for years anyway.

[Dojji]

It is going to be interesting to see what Pedroia has left and for how long he can stay on the field. If he is healthy, he doesn't even have to be the same younger version of himself that we remember in order to help us. He'll be 35 in August.

 

Yes, and little guys never seem to age all that well. Probably because they have to throw theor bodies around that much more in order to compete with the big players.

 

I've been concerned about age catching up to Pedey for years now, you all know this if you've been here any length of time. Injury was one of the things I was worried about.

 

Quite frankly, I can envision a scenario where Pedey can't come back and the replacements aren't cutting it, and we are in the market for a new 2B. It would hgardly be the strangest occurrence in the history of baseball.

 

Like I said in the other post, keep an eye on Ben Zobrist. If the Cubs are either having trouble, or comfortable with their young guys, I'd expect him to be on the table. Love to bring the guy in, he's a great player to bring in and put a team over the top, he did that in KC and in CHC.

 

With Javier Baez beasting, Zobrist is a bit of a luxury, and could be had. Would not at all be surprised if the Sox made a play for the guy.

[notin]

Yes, and little guys never seem to age all that well. Probably because they have to throw theor bodies around that much more in order to compete with the big players.

 

I've been concerned about age catching up to Pedey for years now, you all know this if you've been here any length of time. Injury was one of the things I was worried about.

 

Quite frankly, I can envision a scenario where Pedey can't come back and the replacements aren't cutting it, and we are in the market for a new 2B. It would hgardly be the strangest occurrence in the history of baseball.

 

Like I said in the other post, keep an eye on Ben Zobrist. If the Cubs are either having trouble, or comfortable with their young guys, I'd expect him to be on the table. Love to bring the guy in, he's a great player to bring in and put a team over the top, he did that in KC and in CHC.

 

With Javier Baez beasting, Zobrist is a bit of a luxury, and could be had. Would not at all be surprised if the Sox made a play for the guy.

 

Zobrist would be a massive waste of money and whatever it took to complete the deal. If Pedroia has health issues, the Sox get more time out of the guy replacing him now. Don't you all think Pedro's knee was a huge factor in re-signing Nunez?

[Hugh2]

The conclusions I see in here are disturbing and I'm glad many of you are NOT the G.M.

 

For what's worth I'd probably ruin this team too.

 

Correlation without causation. People assume that because the team is playing great now that guys like Pedey and Bogaerts would add nothing too it is just ludicrous. Guys will have peaks and valleys and as the season goes on having more talent will help push this team into the playoffs.

[moonslav59]

Brock is barely better on defense at 2b than Nunez.

 

Nunez will be the 2Bman until Pedey returns.

 

Nunez may also become our 4th OF'er once Dustin is back at 2B. That might mean less OF time for Jmart and less PAs by HRam/Moreland.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Damn but the time flies.

 

It's so strange how sports makes someone seem so much older. Pedroia is only a few years older than me (I turn 31 next month), but as far as being a baseball player he might as well be pushing 60 the way people look at him. I guess it didn't help that he started going bald at about 16.

[jad]

Yes, and little guys never seem to age all that well. Probably because they have to throw theor bodies around that much more in order to compete with the big players.

 

I've been concerned about age catching up to Pedey for years now, you all know this if you've been here any length of time. Injury was one of the things I was worried about. ...

 

Little guys? You mean like Pedro Martinez? or Luis Aparacio?