A Realistic View at 2018: Part II

[cp176]

If we know nothing else about Dombrowski, we at least know if he has a prospect with any trade value, he WILL trade him...

 

I agree - He will do that for sure but only for the right deal.

[cp176]

He is a dope like Buch. He learns, he forgets.

 

 

think you are right - i've felt this way for awhile now as in a couple of years. He is a more powerful version of Buch for sure but I think that people should keep their expectations of him realistic.

[Bellhorn04]

If we know nothing else about Dombrowski, we at least know if he has a prospect with any trade value, he WILL trade him...

 

That's about 80% true. He hasn't traded Benintendi or Devers. He has a select few that he hangs onto.

[cp176]

That's about 80% true. He hasn't traded Benintendi or Devers. He has a select few that he hangs onto.

 

I don't think that he is apt to trade either one of those guys but I guess you never know. I don't think of either of those guys as prospects though. That being said, if he continues trading chaff and getting wheat in return like he has been doing, I'm all in.

[moonslav59]

If we know nothing else about Dombrowski, we at least know if he has a prospect with any trade value, he WILL trade him...

 

My guess is we have prospects with equal or greater value than Espinal, the guy we gave up to get Pearce.

[moonslav59]

I don't think that he is apt to trade either one of those guys but I guess you never know. I don't think of either of those guys as prospects though. That being said, if he continues trading chaff and getting wheat in return like he has been doing, I'm all in.

 

I think his point was they were prospects during DD's tenure here and were not traded.

 

Yes, they are no longer prospects.

[cp176]

I think his point was they were prospects during DD's tenure here and were not traded.

 

Yes, they are no longer prospects.

 

My point was my last sentence.

[Kimmi]

He is a dope like Buch. He learns, he forgets.

 

That would explain a lot. He is very Buch-like.

[moonslav59]

My point was my last sentence.

 

An excellent point at that. Find 2-3 more StevePearce type deals.

[cp176]

An excellent point at that. Find 2-3 more StevePearce type deals.

 

If anyone can find them, it is likely that it will be DD.

[moonslav59]

If anyone can find them, it is likely that it will be DD.

 

Every team needs guys like Pearce, Reed & Nunez '17.

 

DD does seem to excel in this area.

[moonslav59]

OPS Update

 

1.110 Betts

1.033 JD

 

.892 Moreland

.886 Pearce

.877 Beni

.840 Bogey

 

.795 Holt

.741 Devers

.706 Leon

 

.637 Nunez

.618 JBJ

 

.571 Vaz

 

.399 Swihart

 

[moonslav59]

Don't look now, but TB is now at .500!

 

Wow!

 

They've won 8 of their last 10, all vs NYY, HOU & WSH,

Edited July 1, 2018 by moonslav59

[a700hitter]

Don't look now, but TB is now at .500!

 

Wow!

 

They've won 8 of their last 10, all vs NYY, HOU & WSH,

Randomness at work!

[oldtimer]

Don't look now, but TB is now at .500!

 

Wow!

 

They've won 8 of their last 10, all vs NYY, HOU & WSH,

 

Pitching and defense. Good for them

[Bellhorn04]

Don't look now, but TB is now at .500!

 

Wow!

 

They've won 8 of their last 10, all vs NYY, HOU & WSH,

 

Incredible isn't it. I'm glad we've played most of our games with them.

 

I'm a little suspicious that they've done something to the air in the TropDome that makes it impossible for other teams to hit there.

[Bellhorn04]

In this home stand against NYY, HOU & WSH, the Rays have allowed 12 runs in 8 games, and 6 of those were in one game. In their last 10 at the Trop they've allowed 13 runs.

[notin]

Incredible isn't it. I'm glad we've played most of our games with them.

 

I'm a little suspicious that they've done something to the air in the TropDome that makes it impossible for other teams to hit there.

 

Filled it with decent pitching?

[Bellhorn04]

Filled it with decent pitching?

 

Well, my snarky friend, how about their pitching SPLITS?

 

Home ERA 2.84

Road ERA 4.38

[notin]

Well, my snarky friend, how about their pitching SPLITS?

 

Home ERA 2.84

Road ERA 4.38

 

 

So then apparently they have not filled the air in other stadiums with decent pitching...

[Bellhorn04]

So then apparently they have not filled the air in other stadiums with decent pitching...

 

Right. It can't possibly have anything to do with some parks being more conducive to hitting than others.

[notin]

Right. It can't possibly have anything to do with some parks being more conducive to hitting than others.

 

The Trop has always been a lousy place to hit.

 

Of course, there are probably instances when better home pitching also gets a big boost from familiarity on team defense...

[OH FOY]

My guess is we have prospects with equal or greater value than Espinal, the guy we gave up to get Pearce.

 

Why would the Jays pay some of the salary for Pearce? No reason they didn't have to do it. Except you pay to get better Prospects. By the way went 2-4 with a Triple in his first game in A+. I Understand not the name you see around websites, but this kid had a upside. Not much in the Minors these days you can say about.

Edited July 1, 2018 by OH FOY!

[notin]

Why would the Jays pay some of the salary for Pearce? No reason they didn't have to do it. Except you pay to get better Prospects.

 

You answered your own question correctly. If the Sox took on Pearce's entire contract, they would have given up less...

[Kimmi]

Don't look now, but TB is now at .500!

 

Wow!

 

They've won 8 of their last 10, all vs NYY, HOU & WSH,

 

Oakland is also making a move for that 2nd wildcard spot. They are still 7 behind Seattle, but they've passed the Angels, winning 12 of their last 14, including the last 6 in a row.

[sk7326]

In this home stand against NYY, HOU & WSH, the Rays have allowed 12 runs in 8 games, and 6 of those were in one game. In their last 10 at the Trop they've allowed 13 runs.

 

Well the Trop has always been a pitcher's park. That has been Tampa's MO to punch above their weight, no? A ballpark where fly balls go to die, and build the team around guys who can pick it. (28th out of 30 in Homerun park factor) It is a sound way to create value out of a team which does not have a ton of money.

[sk7326]

Filled it with decent pitching?

 

Decent pitching, outstanding defense, and a ballpark where fly balls go to die ... only two ballparks are worse for homeruns and one (Oakland) does it with comically absurd amounts of foul territory.

[Bellhorn04]

Something tells me that the Trop would be a hard place to hit because of the optics as well. It looks like it would be like playing in a giant Wal-Mart or something.

[S5Dewey]

Something tells me that the Trop would be a hard place to hit because of the optics as well. It looks like it would be like playing in a giant Wal-Mart or something.

 

Well put. I've been there. At least the rug isn't blue any more.

[moonslav59]

Right. It can't possibly have anything to do with some parks being more conducive to hitting than others.

 

If it was all about the park, how do we explain this?

 

TBR Batting

 

OPS

Home: .718

Away: .697

 

Runs/gm

Home: 4.05

Away: 3.77

 

Could it just be they built their team for their park much like the Yanks and Sox have done?