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He's still the best Sox manager I have ever seen, so I think his job is safe.

 

It's now obvious the restgate had nothing to do with Sale and Porcello imploding and Price unable to go past 80 pitches.

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if we finish outside of at least the WC playin game is Cora in jeopardy at all? or does he get a free pass this year based on the 2018 parade?

 

I think his job is safe but his seat will be set to "warm" at the start of 2020 campaign......

 

His job is very safe. The 2019 team will go down as being sunk by horrible pitching.

 

Plus: John Farrell lasted 5 years.

 

John Henry is not a knee-jerker (though Kimmi will argue otherwise.:))

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I would fire Dombrowski before I fired Cora.

 

That's not to say that I am even remotely considering firing either one of them at this point

 

I thought it was already started...

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Not Cora's fault at all. Who would have predicted that one of the best rotations last year is one of the worst this year..... Our "Ace" has worse numbers than some teams 3rd guy.
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I don’t think Cora should be fired.

 

I do think Dombrowski should be...

DD put together 3 consecutive division winners. Cora won once and s*** the bed this year. Buh Bye, bench coach.
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Cora is a good coach who isn't going anywhere just yet. I just have to find it amusing that many people here wanted to anoint him as the best ever on a one year team performance. I've heard so much about small sample sizes but I guess when the mood hits it's ok? I'm actually ok with anyone feeling this way. I do still think that what Williams did with what he had to work with in 1967 stands out as every bit a remarkable though.
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I don’t think Cora should be fired.

 

I do think Dombrowski should be...

 

My “fire DD” thread is on BDC. The day he was hired it was still up and running.

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Cora is a good coach who isn't going anywhere just yet. I just have to find it amusing that many people here wanted to anoint him as the best ever on a one year team performance. I've heard so much about small sample sizes but I guess when the mood hits it's ok? I'm actually ok with anyone feeling this way. I do still think that what Williams did with what he had to work with in 1967 stands out as every bit a remarkable though.

 

Agreed. Agreed? Agreed!

Blue moon? Hahahahaha

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DD put together 3 consecutive division winners. Cora won once and s*** the bed this year. Buh Bye, bench coach.

 

Cora is a second year manager. Mistakes are to be expected.

 

Dombrowski has been an MLB GM for over 25 years and a front office executive for over 40 years. He should know by now what he is doing...

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Cora did very little managing in the regular season last year to win 108. Everything worked, everything. In the playoffs, he pulled all the right moves and several of his moves helped the Sox win it all. This year was a fear factor as to what would happen when he faced adversity. Not much you can do. The team has underperformed and the pitching staff, in particular the Starting Rotation save for EROD and some glimpses of Price has been an all-time joke. It's just one of those years, it's not Farrell last place type, but it's a bad season. If they make the wild card it will be because the SP get it together. Still waiting after all the excuses of not enough ST reps.
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It's neither Cora's fault nor Dombrowski's fault how bad the starting pitching has been, IMHO.

 

Fire LeVangie, of course.

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This season demonstrates that baseball is not a strategic game and managers don't win by employing the right strategy.

 

!!!

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I don’t think Cora should be fired.

 

I do think Dombrowski should be...

 

Dombrowski is not to be blamed for the state of the team this year.

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Dombrowski is not to be blamed for the state of the team this year.

 

Disagree.

 

A man I used to work with (he retired) summed up the need for progress even when you’re on top so eloquently - “ if you stand still, you’re roadkill.”

 

DD stood still since November, by his own choice...

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DD put together 3 consecutive division winners. Cora won once and s*** the bed this year. Buh Bye, bench coach.

 

If anyone needs to be fired, it would be the pitching coach. Practically the entire staff is under performing in terms of runs allowed, efficiency of pitches, or both.

 

I'm not saying he should be fired, but he would be the practical scapegoat if the team is looking for one.

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Dombrowski is not to be blamed for the state of the team this year.

 

Nope, the bottom line is that the the high priced talent that the team depends on to pitch at a high level isn't getting it done, for whatever reason.

the no-hit Rays lit this pitching staff up like a Christmas tree this week. I expect the Yankees to do the same,

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Disagree.

 

A man I used to work with (he retired) summed up the need for progress even when you’re on top so eloquently - “ if you stand still, you’re roadkill.”

 

DD stood still since November, by his own choice...

 

And what does that have to with how bad the starting pitching has been?

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My “fire DD” thread is on BDC. The day he was hired it was still up and running.

 

Ben should have never been fired (I know he technically was not), and I say that with complete sincerity.

 

But again, I do not blame Dombrowski for this season, other than not picking up another reliever before the deadline.

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And what does that have to with how bad the starting pitching has been?

 

Well how did he try to improve it?

 

It’s been bad all year, has he taken any steps? Did he follow through on anything?

 

Or do you think “live or die with Plan A” is the right course of action here?

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If we had some well-pitched starts lately the W-L record would be looking considerably better. We're losing a lot of games where we're putting up 5 runs or more.
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If anyone needs to be fired, it would be the pitching coach. Practically the entire staff is under performing in terms of runs allowed, efficiency of pitches, or both.

 

I'm not saying he should be fired, but he would be the practical scapegoat if the team is looking for one.

 

Its not that the pitching coach should be fired it is that he should have never been hired for that job in the first place. As near as I can determine he has never thrown a baseball to a batter in any game in organized baseball at any level. He simply was not qualified for the job. As they used say you don't appoint a chiropractor to be surgeon general.

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