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I would wait until he opts out and sign him as a FA.

 

i dont think he will opt out. his contract is backloaded $$$$ bigly.

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I can't justify both the cost in talent and the financial cost. I think that we could use another big bat. I do not believe with the kind of dead money already weighing this franchise down that now is the time to make a move for one. We need to let the old mistakes pass through the system before we make new ones.
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This again ^ Its the kids and Trades that's made a difference to help this team not the FA's. Hanley and Price? 50+ million sunk in 2 guys, you think they are worth it?
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i would 100% trade for Stanton.

Erod + X-bo + any 2 minor league players they want not named Groome.

 

he got hit in the face with a FB. i wouldnt call that "injury prone".

 

They will want an OF in this trade, probably Benintendi,

 

Erod + X-bo + Beni + Prospect mighjt have the Miami listening to the proposal

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The Marlins don't want all the Sox contracts you don't like for Stanton. The one they might not mind is actually Castillo, because Cubans do have a certain marketing appeal in Miami.

 

But the rest of that trade would have to involve giving up players you prefer to keep. Think of giving up three from Devers, Benintendi Groome, and Chavis. Otherwise if the Marlins are going to be spending all that money, they would just assume spend it on Stanton.

 

If you wete GM of the Marlins, would you trade the best hitter in franchise history for Price, Hanley (who wore out his welcome in that city once already) and others? If you would make that deal, any chance the Marlins will hire you in the next 3 days?

 

It's not just giving up those players either. It's also taking on that massive contract of his. If anyone were willing to do that, they'd have made a claim.

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Jeter owns the Marlins, not the Yankees. He will make decisions based on what is best for his current team and won't care about his former one.

 

And be realistic. Jeter could urinate all over a statue of Babe Ruth and broadcast it on the YES network and Yankee fans would still love him...

 

Must be because of all those Gold Gloves he won.

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I would wait until he opts out and sign him as a FA.

 

I don't think he will opt out, but that would be the way to go if the team really wants him. At least that way, all it's costing them is money.

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This again ^ Its the kids and Trades that's made a difference to help this team not the FA's. Hanley and Price? 50+ million sunk in 2 guys, you think they are worth it?

 

Farm system, farm system, farm system.

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It costs prospects to get players like Stanton. Not s*****/injured players who make absurd amounts of money. They'd definitely want one of our starting OFs, prospects (possibly Devers) and more. Stanton is a stud and isn't gonna be given away for guy we don't want. Maybe if this was MLB the show with force trades on we could acquire Stanton for Price/Hanley/Castillo
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I love it when a fan (or anyone) argues about the 'rational way' for their opponents to proceed. The thing about your enemies? they don't think the way you do. That's why they are opponents or enemies.
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It costs prospects to get players like Stanton. Not s*****/injured players who make absurd amounts of money. They'd definitely want one of our starting OFs, prospects (possibly Devers) and more. Stanton is a stud and isn't gonna be given away for guy we don't want. Maybe if this was MLB the show with force trades on we could acquire Stanton for Price/Hanley/Castillo

 

I wouldn't trade Devers for Stanton.

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I love it when a fan (or anyone) argues about the 'rational way' for their opponents to proceed. The thing about your enemies? they don't think the way you do. That's why they are opponents or enemies.

 

Maybe so, but you usually have a general idea what the other team is going to want in a trade because of the position they're in. Like when we traded with the White Sox for Sale, the return of Moncada and Kopech was about what you would have expected.

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Maybe so, but you usually have a general idea what the other team is going to want in a trade because of the position they're in. Like when we traded with the White Sox for Sale, the return of Moncada and Kopech was about what you would have expected.

 

They want to sell the Marlins and get rid of the big money liabilities. It would make sense they would want young talented players with years of control and generally low salaries. We don't have many of those unless you want to trade Devers and Beni and maybe Groome. I wouldn't do it although Stanton would be a coup he is too expensive for us.

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Just say no to Stanton's contract. And having to give up prospects on top of it? No thanks.

 

My sentiment as well. Giancarlo Stanton is 27 years old. The contract for the next 5 years, at $29.5 million/year as I understand it, is actually pretty good. The contract for the 5 years after that, covering his mid-30s, is a huge gamble. If he's still an offensive force, great. But chances are his skills diminish and the contract cripples the Red Sox. So if Stanton were just offered without anything returning in trade, the Sox should probably still say no. But to add prospects into the mix, it just makes it so much more likely the trade will not be in the Sox's favor.

 

That said, I would love to see him in a Sox uniform. But the only way to reduce the risk involved in this trade is to include David Price's contract. So, I would do Stanton for Price, but why would the Marlins? They want prospects.

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Jeter owns the Marlins, not the Yankees. He will make decisions based on what is best for his current team and won't care about his former one.

 

And be realistic. Jeter could urinate all over a statue of Babe Ruth and broadcast it on the YES network and Yankee fans would still love him...

 

So - here is how I interpret what you are saying Notin - Jeter could care less about building the future Marlins team based around one of the truly great potential players of this generation. I am just suggesting that trading off this kid would be the pr nightmare that no one wants to have. I think even Jeter cares about that just a bit.

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So - here is how I interpret what you are saying Notin - Jeter could care less about building the future Marlins team based around one of the truly great potential players of this generation. I am just suggesting that trading off this kid would be the pr nightmare that no one wants to have. I think even Jeter cares about that just a bit.

 

But you said he wouldn't deal Stanton to Boston for fear of how Yankee fans will react. I say not only will he not consider Yankees fans opinion and do what's best for Miami, but Yankee fans wouldn't care. If anything, they'd be angry at Cashman for letting it happen. And that does count the extremity regard they hold for Cashman right now...

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Jeter owns the Marlins, not the Yankees. He will make decisions based on what is best for his current team and won't care about his former one.

 

And be realistic. Jeter could urinate all over a statue of Babe Ruth and broadcast it on the YES network and Yankee fans would still love him...

 

 

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!11!!1! Love this.

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My sentiment as well. Giancarlo Stanton is 27 years old. The contract for the next 5 years, at $29.5 million/year as I understand it, is actually pretty good. The contract for the 5 years after that, covering his mid-30s, is a huge gamble. If he's still an offensive force, great. But chances are his skills diminish and the contract cripples the Red Sox. So if Stanton were just offered without anything returning in trade, the Sox should probably still say no. But to add prospects into the mix, it just makes it so much more likely the trade will not be in the Sox's favor.

 

That said, I would love to see him in a Sox uniform. But the only way to reduce the risk involved in this trade is to include David Price's contract. So, I would do Stanton for Price, but why would the Marlins? They want prospects.

 

These types of contracts usually end up crippling a team in the later years of it. The fact that no team put a claim on him shows that no team is willing to take on that contract, regardless of whether they have to give up prospects or not.

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I wouldn't trade Devers for Stanton.

 

I'm not saying I would either. But Marlins aren't just giving away their biggest asset for overpaid veterans and scrubs. It would make no sense.

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Stanton is one of those players that comes along very rarely. If you have a chance to get him and can afford it you do it. He can Dh later on if need be. He has more homers than Bogey, Moreland and Hanley combined. I would trade for him, but no Devers. I would trade Bogey if I could slip in a slick fielding ss in our lineup, but not Marrarro. Nice to dream..
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Stanton is one of those players that comes along very rarely. If you have a chance to get him and can afford it you do it. He can Dh later on if need be. He has more homers than Bogey, Moreland and Hanley combined. I would trade for him, but no Devers. I would trade Bogey if I could slip in a slick fielding ss in our lineup, but not Marrarro. Nice to dream..

 

Since Bogey only has 2 more years left and probably with decent arb contracts, I'm not sure he'd be what Miami would be looking for, unless they would flip him afterwards.

 

I do agree. Stanton is the "Chris Sale" of hitters. You just don't get chances to acquire guys like him very often. I, too, would avoid giving up Devers, but he might be the one guy Miami demands.

 

Throwing in Castillo might help defray the massive cost, but Stanton is not overpaid. They don't have to take back salary to trade him for top young talent.

 

Any deal not including Devers or Beni, or players with 2-3 years of control or less would, in reality, probably have to start with this:

 

ERod (4 arb years)

Groome

Chavis

Mata

Flores

 

 

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if we could land Stanton with the only major league being erod and 4 prospects. you do that every damn time. id even suck the Marlins gm off to finish the deal.

 

lol

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if we could land Stanton with the only major league being erod and 4 prospects. you do that every damn time. id even suck the Marlins gm off to finish the deal.

 

hahahaha. perfect.

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Stanton is good, for sure. Very good. But methinks some of us have fallen a little too in love with his home runs.

 

He is not worth what it will take to get him.

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What would be Stanton's primary position, if he were Traded to the Sox you think? You cant Trade Devers, looking for 3rd baseman for years, and very important position. Move him weakens team, as crazy as that sounds. Edited by OH FOY!

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