The Benintendi Thread

[mvp 78]

I was surprised to see this happen so quickly, but if they believe he's ready, why not turn him loose?

 

Love this stat:

2B+3B this year: 43

strikeouts: 39

 

In AA: 23 2bs and 3bs, 30 K's

 

Not sure the A stats are relevant.

[cp176]

I agree. I'll keep my fingers crossed that it works though.

 

I have some faith in DD. Hoping for the best with Benintendi. We all new that he was very close to being ready. Now we will all get to find out.

[Nick]

This team has been heavily reliant on the top of the order of late and Ortiz is not able to play every day so bringing up someone to give the team some new energy is a good idea. Is Beni ready? Time will tell, but he just may contribute and Brentz wasn't a long term answer so I like the idea. Over the years in baseball, there have been a lot of players who have been brought up at a younger age and with less experience who have prospered.Let's hope that Beni's experience is a positive one.

 

I think he does all the little things to make up for any struggles he may encounter at the plate. Obviously he has to hit. But you don't have to worry about his defense, base running and all the intangibles.

[Jack Flap]

In AA: 23 2bs and 3bs, 30 K's

 

Not sure the A stats are relevant.

 

Perhaps not. It was evident pretty quickly that he didn't have much to learn in A ball.

 

As one of the top college hitters coming into the draft, I'd rather have seen him pushed more aggressively through the lower levels in exchange for some more experience in AA/AAA, but so be it.

[User Name]

I agree. I'll keep my fingers crossed that it works though.

 

Nah, moonslav knows better.

 

Then again, this is and always has been DD's MO.

[Nick]

I have some faith in DD. Hoping for the best with Benintendi. We all new that he was very close to being ready. Now we will all get to find out.

 

It's obvious that Brock Holt won the starting job in LF by default. He was born to play the role of super sub. He has struggled defensively as of late (I don't care how many runners he throws out at Fenway. Stupid running mistakes). He misplayed one in right and two in left over the last several games. Plus I think he's playing hurt.

 

Benintendi was College Playe of the Year. Let's find out sooner rather than later what he's all about....He's not some 18 year old.

[southpaw777]

So, I guess its not such a far fetched thought like some were saying...

And I picked him up on my fantasy team a week or two ago...cant wait to see the kid in the bigs. i really love how they bring guys up on the road. Less pressure starting in Fenway. Hope he blasts one out!

Best of luck to ya Benni!!!

[User Name]

It was a far fetched thought. The move reeks of desperation and could backfire horribly like it did with Conforto. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

[Hugh2]

One has to wonder if they were able to land Carlos Beltran if they'd be making this move. It seems reasonably unlikely given that they were in on him and the trade deadline passed yesterday. One has to ponder if they aren't 100% sure he's ready, but then again if they didn't think he could be ready and could help the team now I doubt they promote him. To be fair, I don't think there is such thing as being 100% certain a guy is ready so if you have the chance to bring in a proven vet who you know can contribute that would seem to be a more viable option, hence....the push for Beltran.

 

Andrews push reminds me of Ellsburys run through the system in 07, lets hope the results are similar. Worst case scenario is he struggles and the team is no better off than they already were. If he performs not only will it help but his value will increase as well, and playing well will increase his value much more than struggling would decrease it. I'm not 100% convinced he's not on the trade talk table in the off season if the Sox decide to make a run at Chris Sale.

[southpaw777]

I'm glad it's happening. I assume Sox management thinks he's ML ready. I had felt he was very near ready, but it seemed like so many posters here appeared to know better.

 

My other position was that they should begin giving Moncada reps at another position sooner rather than later, since he is blocked at 2B and near ML ready with his bat. I caught a lot of grief for just asking for him to start practicing another position. Well, shortly afterwards, Sox management began doing just that.

 

Don't be surprised if Moncada gets called up in September as a PH'er, PR'er, back-up 2Bman and maybe spot DH.

 

 

Moon,

They said he will take reps at 3b before games and maybe LF, but the real switch will come in the offseason for 2017. Theyve already begun that process.

[cp176]

It's obvious that Brock Holt won the starting job in LF by default. He was born to play the role of super sub. He has struggled defensively as of late (I don't care how many runners he throws out at Fenway. Stupid running mistakes). He misplayed one in right and two in left over the last several games. Plus I think he's playing hurt.

 

Benintendi was College Playe of the Year. Let's find out sooner rather than later what he's all about....He's not some 18 year old.

 

No one is arguing with you. He is going to get his chance. i'm very much aware of what he has done as well. Once again, we all new that he was close. he may turn out to be the best option. I hope that he plays everyday. I hope that he is not platooned. I hope that he is able to hold up physically.

[cp176]

One has to wonder if they were able to land Carlos Beltran if they'd be making this move. It seems reasonably unlikely given that they were in on him and the trade deadline passed yesterday. One has to ponder if they aren't 100% sure he's ready, but then again if they didn't think he could be ready and could help the team now I doubt they promote him. To be fair, I don't think there is such thing as being 100% certain a guy is ready so if you have the chance to bring in a proven vet who you know can contribute that would seem to be a more viable option, hence....the push for Beltran.

 

Andrews push reminds me of Ellsburys run through the system in 07, lets hope the results are similar. Worst case scenario is he struggles and the team is no better off than they already were. If he performs not only will it help but his value will increase as well, and playing well will increase his value much more than struggling would decrease it. I'm not 100% convinced he's not on the trade talk table in the off season if the Sox decide to make a run at Chris Sale.

 

I agree with the your viewpoint here. DD may be done for awhile but I still see a trade coming for the best pitcher that we can get in the off-season. i for one would not want to bet who among the prospects will be staying and who will be going.

[southpaw777]

Sure he may have a little adjustment period like in AA (which was only 5-7 games), but Ive believed this kid was going to be up sooner rather than later. Got a feeling hes up for good.

Glad i got him im my fantasy about a week or two ago.

[Jack Flap]

Nice write-up on Benintendi from SoxProspects:

 

http://news.soxprospects.com/2016/08/transaction-analysis-breaking-down_2.html

[Hugh2]

Moon,

They said he will take reps at 3b before games and maybe LF, but the real switch will come in the offseason for 2017. Theyve already begun that process.

 

From what I've heard he's been taking reps at 3B for at least a week now.

[Thunder]

This reminds me of the move to call up Bogaerts for the 2013 stretch run. It wasn't desperately needed, but it made a helluva lot of sense and ended up paying off big time.

[mvp 78]

It was a far fetched thought. The move reeks of desperation and could backfire horribly like it did with Conforto. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

 

Panic move?

[mvp 78]

Nah, moonslav knows better.

 

Then again, this is and always has been DD's MO.

 

I don't expect him to crush the ball right out of the gate. I hope people don't get their hopes up too high.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=17678&position=3B

[mvp 78]

It's obvious that Brock Holt won the starting job in LF by default. He was born to play the role of super sub. He has struggled defensively as of late (I don't care how many runners he throws out at Fenway. Stupid running mistakes). He misplayed one in right and two in left over the last several games. Plus I think he's playing hurt.

 

Benintendi was College Playe of the Year. Let's find out sooner rather than later what he's all about....He's not some 18 year old.

 

Soxprospects has also detailed that Benintendi's LF defense is not ready for prime time.

[mvp 78]

One has to wonder if they were able to land Carlos Beltran if they'd be making this move. It seems reasonably unlikely given that they were in on him and the trade deadline passed yesterday. One has to ponder if they aren't 100% sure he's ready, but then again if they didn't think he could be ready and could help the team now I doubt they promote him. To be fair, I don't think there is such thing as being 100% certain a guy is ready so if you have the chance to bring in a proven vet who you know can contribute that would seem to be a more viable option, hence....the push for Beltran.

 

Andrews push reminds me of Ellsburys run through the system in 07, lets hope the results are similar. Worst case scenario is he struggles and the team is no better off than they already were. If he performs not only will it help but his value will increase as well, and playing well will increase his value much more than struggling would decrease it. I'm not 100% convinced he's not on the trade talk table in the off season if the Sox decide to make a run at Chris Sale.

 

Big difference is that Ellsbury started the season in AA and played considerable time in AAA. If Benintendi really followed Ells' path, he'd be brought up in 2017.

[southpaw777]

It was a far fetched thought. The move reeks of desperation and could backfire horribly like it did with Conforto. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

 

Well, they have had a ton of injuries in LF and now have Brentz, Holt, and Martinez platooing out there...nothing much on the trade market so yeah, i guess they were a little desperate. Just like when they switched Betts to CF and called him up. He may go through an adjustment time of a few games, but I, like the Sox staff, think hes got that certain something and feel he can handle it and that he is indeed ready for the show....

[southpaw777]

Well the professionals who are around him every single day say hes ready now and believe he can handle it...nothing wrong with challenging a 21-22 yo who is dominating minor league baseball, especially when there is a direct need on the big club. There may be an adjustment period so i hope some fans allow for that possibility Edited August 2, 2016 by southpaw777

[southpaw777]

From what I've heard he's been taking reps at 3B for at least a week now.

 

Yes he has before the games.

[cp176]

None of us here are going to know what DD was up to at the deadline. As things have gone, it looks as though by not acquiring a left fielder, Young's slow recovery, and Swihart still on the shelf, and Moncada just starting to get a sniff at a couple of other positions, It makes some sense to find out if Benintendi can get the job done sooner as opposed to later. he is talented for sure. My only concern which might not be a concern is his size. he is not 5'10 - 170. Left field has been a disappointment for us. Maybe he will prove to be the one going forward who solves the problem. We all knew (not just Moon) that Brentz and Holt were not going to be long term solutions out there. I advocated for Brentz to get his chance because he deserved it. I think that it worked out pretty much like we all thought it would. I'm still waiting to see what becomes of Swihart out of all of this.

[S5Dewey]

I know this isn't going to sit well with some posters, but the more I'm reading about this the more I'm asking "Why?".

 

This guy has either been over-hyped or he's the greatest player since Mike Trout (or maybe before), and I'm very skeptical of that. From everything I'm reading and hearing he's 1) not ML ready defensively, and 2) will probably have an offensive adjustment period.

 

We're in the midst of a 3-team pennant race and we need to put the best available on the field every game. Given my #1 & #2 above, what's he going to do to help this team immediately?

[S5Dewey]

Well the professionals who are around him every single day say hes ready now and believe he can handle it...nothing wrong with challenging a 21-22 yo who is dominating minor league baseball, especially when there is a direct need on the big club. There may be an adjustment period so i hope some fans allow for that possibility

 

Wait, wait, wait. He's not "dominating minor league baseball', he's dominating AA. There's a difference, most especially in the pitching. This is an enormous jump for him and there will undoubtedly be an adjustment period. Is that really what we need to do in the middle of a pennant race? Promote a AA player to the Majors and hope for the best??

[illinoisredsox]

Everyone keeps talking about a period of adjustment. Let's hope Red Sox Nation actually allows that and doesn't start declaring him a bust if he has a few rough games at the start.

[cp176]

I know this isn't going to sit well with some posters, but the more I'm reading about this the more I'm asking "Why?".

 

This guy has either been over-hyped or he's the greatest player since Mike Trout (or maybe before), and I'm very skeptical of that. From everything I'm reading and hearing he's 1) not ML ready defensively, and 2) will probably have an offensive adjustment period.

 

We're in the midst of a 3-team pennant race and we need to put the best available on the field every game. Given my #1 & #2 above, what's he going to do to help this team immediately?

 

good post - I'm calling ******** on everybody who is yapping about him dominating at the AA level. He is doing a very good job for sure but not what I see as dominating. Mike Trout he ain't but he may become our best option out there. I'm anxious to see what he can do and I hope that he can get it done.

[User Name]

Everyone keeps talking about a period of adjustment. Let's hope Red Sox Nation actually allows that and doesn't start declaring him a bust if he has a few rough games at the start.

 

^This is a very good point. Dealing with the Boston fans and media is a beast that needs to be tamed on its own.

[User Name]

But but but moon said he's ready!