Sox Pitching Staff Discussion

[moonslav59]

Any word on when Wright returns?

 

Today, Porcello tries to go 12-0 at home this year.

[Behindenemylines]

Can anyone please tell me why one would leave a reliever in long enough to walk the bases full?

 

By the second walk, shouldn't it be clear that the fella doesn't have his grits together that particular game?

 

Sending Barnes out for a second inning I questioned that. If you do that you have to go get him after the first walk. The Sox really lucky last night with what Ziegler did. I don't get leaving Barnes in for three walks in his SECOND inning.

[a700hitter]

Any word on when Wright returns?

 

Today, Porcello tries to go 12-0 at home this year.

He is available to pinch run today.

[Behindenemylines]

He is available to pinch run today.

 

If Wright is not right when he comes back it will probably cost the Sox a shot at the playoffs, and should cost Farrell his job.

[Nick]

So Greinke received 6 year $206M contract? Nice

[oldtimer]

So Greinke received 6 year $206M contract? Nice

 

Be glad that we didn't go after him.

[moonslav59]

So Greinke received 6 year $206M contract? Nice

 

Maybe we'll add one more to the long list of huge contact disappointments.

[devildavid]

Gottta sing the praises of Porcello. I was dead wrong about him. Never thought he would be this good. Absolutely outstanding this season.

[moonslav59]

Gottta sing the praises of Porcello. I was dead wrong about him. Never thought he would be this good. Absolutely outstanding this season.

 

I never expected this good either, but I was one of the few who liked the extension and defended Porcello all along. His age and experience made signing him for only prime years a good idea.

 

[Nick]

I never expected this good either, but I was one of the few who liked the extension and defended Porcello all along. His age and experience made signing him for only prime years a good idea.

 

 

Yes you called it......It's just so amazing how relaxed he looks on the mound. Price, no so much. He takes lots of big breath between pitches. Looks little fragile too. Is he getting enough to eat? Or is it hard to break $10,000 bill at restaurants?

[sk7326]

Maybe we'll add one more to the long list of huge contact disappointments.

 

Between the injuries, the ballpark switch and the quality of team behind him - some of this was inevitable. His numbers last year were not sustainable.

[Bellhorn04]

Yes you called it......It's just so amazing how relaxed he looks on the mound. Price, no so much. He takes lots of big breath between pitches. Looks little fragile too. Is he getting enough to eat? Or is it hard to break $10,000 bill at restaurants?

 

Porcello didn't look so relaxed last year either.

[a700hitter]

Price has always had that demeanor on the mound where he takes those big deep breaths. That is not a sign that he is stressed or uncomfortable.

[Nick]

Price has always had that demeanor on the mound where he takes those big deep breaths. That is not a sign that he is stressed or uncomfortable.

 

yep, that sounded stupid....hey I'm just a rookie here

[sk7326]

Yes you called it......It's just so amazing how relaxed he looks on the mound. Price, no so much. He takes lots of big breath between pitches. Looks little fragile too. Is he getting enough to eat? Or is it hard to break $10,000 bill at restaurants?

 

Price has looked uncomfortable all year - not so much demeanor but the tinkering with his mound position and so forth. That being said, as noted before, his strikeout and walk rates are right in line with his career. This has all the signs of a location issue and not a stuff one. As such, I am pretty bullish on him figuring this out - whether it gets figured out this season is an open question.

[Kimmi]

So Greinke received 6 year $206M contract? Nice

 

I would like to point out, to no one in particular, that Greinke was not pulled from the game until after he allowed 9 runs.

[Kimmi]

I never expected this good either, but I was one of the few who liked the extension and defended Porcello all along. His age and experience made signing him for only prime years a good idea.

 

I lost a bet on Porcello last season. (Having me bet on someone is like the kiss of death for that player, and I should have known better than to bet, even though it was only a sig bet.) But I maintained that regardless of how poorly he pitched, and regardless of whether he bounced back this year or not, and regardless of whether he continues to pitch well for the remainder of his contract or not, the contract extension was a good bet.

 

Not knowing how the 4 years (plus one year from the old contract) would play out, I would do that deal all day every day, and twice on Sundays.

[a700hitter]

I lost a bet on Porcello last season. (Having me bet on someone is like the kiss of death for that player, and I should have known better than to bet, even though it was only a sig bet.) But I maintained that regardless of how poorly he pitched, and regardless of whether he bounced back this year or not, and regardless of whether he continues to pitch well for the remainder of his contract or not, the contract extension was a good bet.

 

Not knowing how the 4 years (plus one year from the old contract) would play out, I would do that deal all day every day, and twice on Sundays.

You should bet on the Yankees.

[Kimmi]

You should bet on the Yankees.

 

I bet (sig bet) on the Mets this year. LOL

 

When I play fantasy baseball, I load my team up with as many Yankees players as possible, and will not have any Sox players on my team.

[a700hitter]

yep, that sounded stupid....hey I'm just a rookie here

It wasn't stupid. I also used to think that we had him on the ropes when he would take those deep breaths. And he would manage to shut us down. Another guy that took those deep breaths looking exasperated all the time was Joe Nathan.

[a700hitter]

I bet (sig bet) on the Mets this year. LOL

 

When I play fantasy baseball, I load my team up with as many Yankees players as possible, and will not have any Sox players on my team.

I have been known to pick some key Yankees. I had Jeter in some of his injury plagued years. LOL!!!

[SinceYaz]

Clay was not great, but his job was to get through about 5 innings and keep his team in the game. He accomplished that.

 

Thirteen million dollars a year to poorly satisfy almost 5 innings ... how far down the line had Clay fallen from our possible #1

[Jasonbay44]

It seems like every time Clay pitches he has "done his job". We must have low standards of what his job actually is.

[sk7326]

It seems like every time Clay pitches he has "done his job". We must have low standards of what his job actually is.

 

What is his job? Honestly, they should just let it fly with him from the pen the rest of the way - I know there was some issue here with injuries.

[Jasonbay44]

What is his job? Honestly, they should just let it fly with him from the pen the rest of the way - I know there was some issue here with injuries.

 

I don't have a problem with him out of the pen, he has actually been pretty solid there. But when he makes a spot start, regardless of he does, there is numerous people saying "good job Buchholz" or he "did his job" so 4 innings and 3 runs is a job well done? Even in spot start, no, that isn't good. You know it's not a good job when your ERA coming in is 5.64, and it goes up after your start...

[cp176]

Don't mind being the one who says it - Nice job today by Pomeranz! he's a young mi-rotation guy with some upside. Happy to see him have another good outing.

 

Last year I was excited by the Porcello signing and happy that an extension got done early. Have to say though that as things progressed, i took all of that Porcello love back and got on the "he is grossly overpaid" train. i'm pretty sorry about that these days. I'm really happy we have him with us.

[Nick]

It seems like every time Clay pitches he has "done his job". We must have low standards of what his job actually is.

 

Maybe he can get old job back with In Living Colors...

Edited August 16, 2016 by Nick

[cp176]

Pomeranz not getting any love here? really- I'm alone on my island!

[Bellhorn04]

Pomeranz not getting any love here? really- I'm alone on my island!

 

If he keeps pitching like he did last start the love will flow.

[moonslav59]

Pomeranz not getting any love here? really- I'm alone on my island!

 

To me, it was more about losing the extremely high ceiling of Espi and not the half season sample size of very good pitching by PomPom before the trade.

 

I pointed out how Pomeranz and his low cost for the 2.4 years of team control could save enough money on our luxury budget to allow us to make strong plays for some great pen help, a big hitter and/or a big (ex[expensive) SP'er (via trade).

 

He's certainly an asset on the current team. I never meant to imply he was another Dempster- type. He's better than that - or at least projects to be so. My position has always been to build up the rotation from the 1-2 slot not the 4-5 slot. Building at the 3 has some merit when you look at the cost for a 1-2 these days.

 

Who knows, Pom Pom may end up pitching like a number 2, and I don't mean the doo doo kind.